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wizenheimer said:
also, Melo in Denver; Deron Williams in Utah; I guess PG13 in Indiana, although he gave them plenty of warning
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it's prolly easier to find guys who HAVEN'T flexed their muscle like this among the top 15 players.

Giannis/Steph/Jokic/Dame/Tatum/Embiid stick out among guys who are past their rookie deals and still with their teams.
 


Great interview if you are a basketball nerd. A lot of it is relevant to us and how teams defend Dame.
 
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illmatic99 said:
it's prolly easier to find guys who HAVEN'T flexed their muscle like this among the top 15 players.

Giannis/Steph/Jokic/Dame/Tatum/Embiid stick out among guys who are past their rookie deals and still with their teams.
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Giannis Jokic Tatum Embiid are still on their rookie extensions. Players never leave on the rookie extension because its their first big payday and they are restricted free agents.

So from your list its Steph+Dame.
 
B-Roy said:


Great interview if you are a basketball nerd. A lot of it is relevant to us and how teams defend Dame.
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Cliffsnotes version please. I dont have 90minutes to watch that
 
WesleyMatthews said:
The NBA had players like Kobe demand trades as well, and the Lakers got close to doing it with Chicago but insisted on both Ben Gordon & Luol Deng which Chicago wouldn't do. So the Lakers said no, Kobe you are staying a Laker.

Houston can hold firm like that if they want.

Houston has other problems that they did a stupid Russ trade, got rid of Capella then RoCo, did another stupid Russ trade, traded away tons of picks to avoid tax, distanced themselves from their talented GM to grab China $, and now can't assemble a winning team.

Plus all the rumors Harden and Westbrook hated Fertitta support of Donald Trump and want out. That's his decision for public support of Trump, which he enjoys benefits from and now can enjoy the costs.

I don't have sympathy for Houston, they can play hardball and make this uncomfortable which they decided to do weeks ago. Well now teams are hesitant to trade as we are at training camp so its their own choice it got to this point.

Either take what you get in a Harden trade or shut up. I don't want to hear about how its so unfair for Houston and players shouldn't have this power and this and that. Houston decided to back themselves in this corner, they get to live with it. Minnesota did as well. Its not some brand new player empowerment phenomenon.
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Houston is under no obligation to trade Harden at all. Harden completely tanked his value by going public. He can hold out as long as he wants, but unless Houston gets the best possible deal, they are doing their franchise and fans a huge disservice by just trading him for garbage.

If Harden does come back at some point, it’s not like there are fans to boo him either. I don’t mind players using leverage, but Harden doesn’t have near as much leverage as he apparently thinks he does with two full years still guaranteed.
 
Basically if a player gets COVID, plan on him being out 2 weeks at the MINIMUM! Wow!
 
RoseCityRebel said:
Houston is under no obligation to trade Harden at all. Harden completely tanked his value by going public. He can hold out as long as he wants, but unless Houston gets the best possible deal, they are doing their franchise and fans a huge disservice by just trading him for garbage.

If Harden does come back at some point, it’s not like there are fans to boo him either. I don’t mind players using leverage, but Harden doesn’t have near as much leverage as he apparently thinks he does with two full years still guaranteed.
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Of course they don't have an obligation. I'm not sure how much his value changed, the guys available last week are probably still available now. It doesn't seem like any team but the Nets or maybe the 6ers if Simmons is available are possible. A team still needs to have enough to contend after acquiring Harden so that makes it very hard to also give up talented players yet still retain playoff talent.

We will see... teams like the Spurs and Twolves thought like this that they didn't have an obligation, they waited, then traded Kawhi/Butler for not much.
 
Dallas will be releasing Barea. Any interest?
 
theprunetang said:
I hear that. I wasn't saying I was on board. Just thought I would pose the question.
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Yeah for sure, just any talk about adding a player is moot because we dont want to go into the tax and were only $600K below.

A player in the buyout market wouldnt put us into the tax though. That'll be interesting.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah for sure, just any talk about adding a player is moot because we dont want to go into the tax and were only $600K below.

A player in the buyout market wouldnt put us into the tax though. That'll be interesting.
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Okay. Excuse my ignorance here because i truly have quit keeping up like i used to.
I thought if a player gets waived he went on waivers and if no team picks him up he then that team must pay his salary?
Then another team can sign him? Doesn't that constitute a buyout?
Now that i'm thinking about it though would the Blazers have to pay him a vets minimum? Which of course poses another question about what would that be for Barea?
Like i said i have pretty much quit following the contractual side of the game.

In the end i do understand the Tax and that the Blazers absolutely must stay under it unless they want to go all in on the repeater tax route which probably would be foolish.
 
I see that Jacob Evans was just released (again) by a team.
Since I at one time believed he was a better pick than Gary Trent, this proves that sometimes Neil Olshey is smarter than me! (or at least his scouts are). Might also prove that it's difficult making evaluations by reading draft profiles on the internet! :)
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I see that Jacob Evans was just released (again) by a team.
Since I at one time believed he was a better pick than Gary Trent, this proves that sometimes Neil Olshey is smarter than me! (or at least his scouts are). Might also prove that it's difficult making evaluations by reading draft profiles on the internet! :)
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... or just making draft evaluations in general.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I see that Jacob Evans was just released (again) by a team.
Since I at one time believed he was a better pick than Gary Trent, this proves that sometimes Neil Olshey is smarter than me! (or at least his scouts are). Might also prove that it's difficult making evaluations by reading draft profiles on the internet! :)
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well, as you said, Olshey has a scouting staff and he's paid as much as 6 million/year, in part, for his draft evaluations. I'm paid $0/year for mine. How about you?
 
BonesJones said:
A player in the buyout market wouldnt put us into the tax though. That'll be interesting.
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that will depend of the player and the timing of the buyout, no?

I mean, a 600K margin margin below the tax line isn't much room at all.

unless of course, I'm not understanding the rules. As I understand it: the minimum salary this year is 1.7 million. The amount of the signing would be pro-rated by the percentage of the season left, in days. The season will be about 155 days long if my math is right (regular season = Dec 22 - May 16, assuming the play-in tournament doesn't count). So then, a minimum signing with 53 days left of the season would result in a 582K pro-rated salary. That would mean the Blazers couldn't sign a vet any earlier than March 24-26.

that should still leave 25-28 games in the season. That's a pretty substantial chunk of the season left. But, for any vets of value, the Blazers would be competing with teams that have exceptions left and can pay more than a pro-rated minimum. Hopefully, Portland will be in the thick of the HCA playoff hunt and can be an attractive destination as a short-time gig for a bought-out FA
 
wizenheimer said:
that will depend of the player and the timing of the buyout, no?

I mean, a 600K margin margin below the tax line isn't much room at all.

unless of course, I'm not understanding the rules. As I understand it: the minimum salary this year is 1.7 million. The amount of the signing would be pro-rated by the percentage of the season left, in days. The season will be about 155 days long if my math is right (regular season = Dec 22 - May 16, assuming the play-in tournament doesn't count). So then, a minimum signing with 53 days left of the season would result in a 582K pro-rated salary. That would mean the Blazers couldn't sign a vet any earlier than March 24-26.

that should still leave 25-28 games in the season. That's a pretty substantial chunk of the season left. But, for any vets of value, the Blazers would be competing with teams that have exceptions left and can pay more than a pro-rated minimum. Hopefully, Portland will be in the thick of the HCA playoff hunt and can be an attractive destination as a short-time gig for a bought-out FA
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The minimum is $1.6M, and that date range is when the buyout market would likely take place anyway.
 
wizenheimer said:
that will depend of the player and the timing of the buyout, no?

I mean, a 600K margin margin below the tax line isn't much room at all.

unless of course, I'm not understanding the rules. As I understand it: the minimum salary this year is 1.7 million. The amount of the signing would be pro-rated by the percentage of the season left, in days. The season will be about 155 days long if my math is right (regular season = Dec 22 - May 16, assuming the play-in tournament doesn't count). So then, a minimum signing with 53 days left of the season would result in a 582K pro-rated salary. That would mean the Blazers couldn't sign a vet any earlier than March 24-26.

that should still leave 25-28 games in the season. That's a pretty substantial chunk of the season left. But, for any vets of value, the Blazers would be competing with teams that have exceptions left and can pay more than a pro-rated minimum. Hopefully, Portland will be in the thick of the HCA playoff hunt and can be an attractive destination as a short-time gig for a bought-out FA
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Yep. Your calcs here are correct.

NO is planning on spending every last penny he can (without going into the tax). He has 1 open roster spot and just enough room below the tax line to sign a vet as a FA mid-season.
 
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