OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA THREAD - July 2021

[Rastapopoulos]

Zion and Jonas together now, could be good front court.

...in the 1990s

 

[Rastapopoulos]

only if they renounce Josh Hart and Lonzo.

Replacing those two with Lowry seems like a lateral move to me. Ball really came on last year once he figured out how to shoot.

Remember Lonzo in the bubble? It had the opposite effect on him than it did on Jamal Murray. Plus Lowry brings in a championship aura. They're trying to convince Zion they're serious.

 

[Mr. Robot]

this trade from memphis perspective is all about that pick, they have set their sight on someone

they keep on building the team, thats why they can afford to have bledsoe and adams whos contracts expire in two and one season respectively, but they can trade them to get something

theyre probably gonna draft a forward or a center, depending on jaren jackson jr

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Woj just called JV a floor spacer. lol wut?

Dude shoots less than half a three a game in his career.

Also:

 

[Rastapopoulos]

New Orleans almost has max capspace now. I hope they don't throw a huge offer at Powell if they lose out on Lowry.

I got no problem with that... unless we match it.

 

[Labinot41]

Let it go……he’s not our coach anymore……let it go.

Fire Stotts!

 

[craigehlo]

 

[illmatic99]

he's an olshey favorite. neil used to rave about him back when they were in LA.

and we know how much olshey likes his clipper guys (Aminu/Kaman/Mo Williams/Billups/etc). Only way i take him is if he's bought out, though

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Come back Wenyen!

 

[blazerkor]

FIRST DOMINOOOOOOO

On the trade itself. I think that takes New Orleans out of the CJ conversation. Interesting deal for them. Jonas has the same problem with Zion that Adams does.

They just got rid of a guard who averaged thirty minutes a game for them in Bledsoe. They're on the fence about Ball. So I would say that this deal puts them in the conversation for CJ more than ever.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

he's an olshey favorite. neil used to rave about him back when they were in LA.

...which was the last time he was good. (And yes, the "he" in my sentence could apply equally to Bledsoe AND Olshey.)

 

[blazerkor]

this trade from memphis perspective is all about that pick, they have set their sight on someone

they keep on building the team, thats why they can afford to have bledsoe and adams whos contracts expire in two and one season respectively, but they can trade them to get something

theyre probably gonna draft a forward or a center, depending on jaren jackson jr

Both contracts expire in two seasons respectively

 

[B-Roy]

Well, Grizz just got a first for eating Bledsoe's contract. Not sure who they think they can unload Bledsoe on for free.

 

[B-Roy]

They just got rid of a guard who averaged thirty minutes a game for them in Bledsoe. They're on the fence about Ball. So I would say that this deal puts them in the conversation for CJ more than ever.

If you believe reports, Griffin is super high on Kira Lewis and NAW. If they are doing this with the intent of signing Lowry, I don't see them wanting CJ. Not to mention they just lost the salary filler that would be used in a CJ trade.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Natebishop3]

Gross.

 

[Mr. Robot]

Both contracts expire in two seasons respectively

youre right

it seems like bledsoe second year is team option, its partially guaranteed, like nurks next year

 

[B-Roy]

 

[TBpup]

And we have our first trade. There ya go, @B-Roy

Deals being made. Take notice there Mr. 9 years and still haven't moved the needle.

 

[illmatic99]

Deals being made. Take notice there Mr. 9 years and still haven't moved the needle.

eh?

You wanted us to get involved in this one? Who in this deal moves any needle? It's fairly unsubstantial for all parties involved. The Roco trade last year was among the very first dominoes to fall in the pre-draft stage.

And you are smart enough to realize that a lot of what we will do this year hinges on Jones opting in, which he has yet to do.

 

[Idog1976]

only if they renounce Josh Hart and Lonzo.

Replacing those two with Lowry seems like a lateral move to me. Ball really came on last year once he figured out how to shoot.

I've been repeatedly told that shooting is a nearly impossible skill to develop so this must be Fake News.

 

[South East]

Anyone else get the feeling there may be a wink wink nod nod, deal between Philly and Tor. Package Siakim and Lowry for Simmons, Curry and Hill.

 

[Idog1976]

So if CJ is part of a deal to bring back a frontcourt impact player, who do you like more. Simmons, (defense & playmaking), or Ingram ( fantastic offensive talent)? Wow! What a potential decision. Simmons makes the Blazers lineup incredible on defense, assuming Powell would re-sign. Nurk, Simmons, RoCo, Powell, and Dame. But Ingram's talent would allow for more easy baskets in the post. And an excellent mid range talent.

Is there any indication whatsoever that Ingram is on the block? I'm not saying there isn't, I'm just not aware of that being a thing. To answer your question I'd rather have Simmons. He's much better overall and again is a Jump Shot away from MVP caliber.

 

[Idog1976]

Anyone else get the feeling there may be a wink wink nod nod, deal between Philly and Tor. Package Siakim and Lowry for Simmons, Curry and Hill.

No, because that would shatter my top two basketball fantasies. So no, nope, definitely not.

 

[JoshuaHall]

Anyone else get the feeling there may be a wink wink nod nod, deal between Philly and Tor. Package Siakim and Lowry for Simmons, Curry and Hill.

Personally I don’t think Simmons makes sense for them with Suggs on the way

 

[Idog1976]

Personally I don’t think Simmons makes sense for them with Suggs on the way

Plus NBA teams almost never help a rival out when both are playoff teams in the same Conference, let alone the same Division. Sure it happens, but that's a big factor that teams will definitely consider.

 

[South East]

Personally I don’t think Simmons makes sense for them with Suggs on the way

Maybe they go with Barnes and run 4 6’8”-6’10” guys out there and dare anyone to score. They would be so great on the break. Adding in Trent and a couple shooters would be braking the mold.

 

[B-Roy]

Anyone else get the feeling there may be a wink wink nod nod, deal between Philly and Tor. Package Siakim and Lowry for Simmons, Curry and Hill.

That seems like it would make sense for all parties involved, particularly if you believe reports that Lowry is leaning Philly. Problem is Lowry would definitely have to take a paycut if he's expecting 30M/Year on the open market. That trade hardcaps Philly, and if Lowry is being paid 30M a year, the Sixers would be at 140M with 9 roster spots filled. 3 million left to fill 5 spots which is impossible.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That seems like it would make sense for all parties involved, particularly if you believe reports that Lowry is leaning Philly. Problem is Lowry would definitely have to take a paycut if he's expecting 30M/Year on the open market. That trade hardcaps Philly, and if Lowry is being paid 30M a year, the Sixers would be at 140M with 9 roster spots filled. 3 million left to fill 5 spots which is impossible.

Do you think Lowry is legitimately expecting 30M/yr though? Who's actually going to pay him that?

 

[B-Roy]

Do you think Lowry is legitimately expecting 30M/yr though? Who's actually going to pay him that?

Both Lowe and Woj are saying Lowry's market is 25-30M per year, with various suitors. One team just opened up 25-35M to spend on him. I think he could get 30M, if that is the only thing he cared about. In this Philly deal, I think he would need to start at like 22M at the very least.