Official Around The NBA Thread......Septiembre

[Hoopguru]

Sitting around campfire here at Detroit lake talking Blazers!
Sipping some good High West Bourbon!
My wife & I are convinced Mark Cuban needs to run for president as an independent / libertarian.
We think the Zers will finish 4th seed and make it to the second round.
Live campfires!
I think we’re rocked the trailer tonight!
Hey us old gun toten hippies can still enjoy!

 

[THE HCP]

Sitting around campfire here at Detroit lake talking Blazers!
Sipping some good High West Bourbon!
We think the Zers will finish 4th seed and make it to the second round.

Must be drinking and smoking A LOT!

 

[Hoopguru]

A few drinks no smoke though, except for campfire smoke!
I’ll be honest I haven’t smoked any grass since the early 70’s. Made me lazy and got the blind munchies!

My first time was 1966 in SF Golden Gate Park/ The Pan Handle watching Moby Grape And Country Joe.
The pot was in sold in a Match Box back then!

 

[handiman]

Bro, Beverly had like 3 good games EVER against Lillard, early in his career.

Other than those he LIGHTS Beverly's ass UP.

Your own stats link betrays you. Prior to the '14 playoff series, Lillard averaged 17.3 ppg on 0.372 FG% against Beverley. That's not particularly good by Dame's standards.

It has nothing to do with Beverley's stats against Dame. It's about how Dame has performed against good defenders. My recollection may be off, but I believe Beverley's knee injury was bad enough that he wasn't expected to be back for the playoffs. He was clearly way below 100% when he did return. That's the asterisk I referred to.

Bullshit.

Dame totally lit Beverly up in that series, starting in Game 1 (31 points). He had an ORtg of 135, a TS% of .665 and a 3FG% of .489. He averaged 25.5/6.3/6.7 and did so very efficiently. Pat Bev the alleged Lillard stopper had a DRtg of 120, the worst of any HOU player. Why, because he was the one guarding Damian Lillard, who owned his ass, for most of the series.

You are completely overrating Beverly and overstating his "injury". He played in all 6 games and was on the floor for the final 0.9 seconds, but he was guarding Mo Williams, not Damian Lillard, because McHale knew the 6'1" Beverly had ZERO chance of stopping Damian Lillard in a catch and shoot situation. Lillard had been burning him from 3-point range for the entire series.

The myth of Patrick Beverly as Lillard stopper is every bit as ridiculous as Ruben Patterson proclaiming himself the Kobe stopper.

BNM

Re-read the stats and my comment and weep, Mr. Bullshit. "Pre-injury Beverly was one of Dame's toughest defenders." You're so caught up in debunking the myth, you go off the rails in trying to do so... How does Dame's performance in the series disprove Beverley's defensive impact prior to the series??

Beverley playing all 6 games in the series is a testament to his toughness (you don't have to like him to acknowledge the obvious; I don't), not a sign that his injury was minimal enough to have no impact. That's way below your intelligence to suggest such.

 

[Cippy91]

When Allen Crabbe received a four year/$75 million offer from the Brooklyn Nets in 2016, it turned a lot of heads, including Crabbe’s. In a new interview with Nets Daily, Crabbe says that he never expected to receive such a massive deal, and that he would have returned to the Portland Trail Blazers for the minimum:


Crabbe also talked about how the Nets four-year, $75 million offer sheet in July 2016 blew him away. So, too, did the team’s continuing interest that led to Brooklyn acquiring him in a trade for Andrew Nicholson a year later. Crabbe said he was happy in Portland, claiming he would have agreed to a minimum contract. Then, the Nets came calling.

“Brooklyn called and told me the offer. I was shocked. I was definitely shocked,” Crabbe admitted. “It showed that an organization was really interested in me. You couldn’t pass that up. Signing that offer sheet was rally a no-brainer. Of course, Portland matched that, but for Brooklyn to still be there a year later it showed a lot.”

He also said he had the final “say-so” on the trade because for it to go through, he had to agree to waive a $5 million trade kicker.

In his first season with the Nets, the 26 year old Crabbe averaged 13.2 points per game and shot 38 percent from behind the 3-point line. He is in the third year of his four-year deal.

 

[jlprk]

 

[jlprk]

When Allen Crabbe received a four year/$75 million offer from the Brooklyn Nets in 2016, it turned a lot of heads, including Crabbe’s. In a new interview with Nets Daily, Crabbe says that he never expected to receive such a massive deal, and that he would have returned to the Portland Trail Blazers for the minimum:.

This article is unfair to Olshey. It left out the part about someone holding a gun to his head on every overpaid deal. And it didn't mention that no one wants to play in small market Portland, so they sign in New Jersey, New Orleans, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Indianapolis, Peoria, and Timbuktu. It has nothing to do with him.

 

[jlprk]

I made that blank one on purpose!

(What happened? I could delete it, but let's save this albino rarity.)

 

[jlprk]

“It’s a match made in heaven,” Crabbe told Sixsmith, noting that Wesley Matthews, a teammate on the Blazers had told him, “There are 30 teams in the league, but it only takes one team to love you. And for me, it’s Brooklyn.”

But in Crabbe's case, two teams fell into stupid love, since Olshey suckered into getting the bait hooked in his mouth.

He also helped recruit two Blazers teammates, Ed Davis and Shabazz Napier. Both signed with Brooklyn.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/9/17/17871604/allen-crabbe-on-nets-its-a-match-made-in-heaven

 

[H.C.]

When Allen Crabbe received a four year/$75 million offer from the Brooklyn Nets in 2016, it turned a lot of heads, including Crabbe’s. In a new interview with Nets Daily, Crabbe says that he never expected to receive such a massive deal, and that he would have returned to the Portland Trail Blazers for the minimum:


Crabbe also talked about how the Nets four-year, $75 million offer sheet in July 2016 blew him away. So, too, did the team’s continuing interest that led to Brooklyn acquiring him in a trade for Andrew Nicholson a year later. Crabbe said he was happy in Portland, claiming he would have agreed to a minimum contract. Then, the Nets came calling.

“Brooklyn called and told me the offer. I was shocked. I was definitely shocked,” Crabbe admitted. “It showed that an organization was really interested in me. You couldn’t pass that up. Signing that offer sheet was rally a no-brainer. Of course, Portland matched that, but for Brooklyn to still be there a year later it showed a lot.”

He also said he had the final “say-so” on the trade because for it to go through, he had to agree to waive a $5 million trade kicker.

In his first season with the Nets, the 26 year old Crabbe averaged 13.2 points per game and shot 38 percent from behind the 3-point line. He is in the third year of his four-year deal.

Talk about a click bait article.
Yes Crabbe would've agreed to stay with the team that he had played with for a few years.(If no one else paid him)
Except he was offered a max deal by the Nets and it was a no brainer to sign it. Which he signed.
Which forced Portland then matched if they wanted to keep him.
Right or wrong move, that's up for debate.
What's not up for debate is the following.
No where in this article does it say Crabbe would've turned down the max offer to sign a minimum deal with Portland.
In fact that's the exact opposite of what Crabbe said and did.
However this articles headline leads you to believe Crabbe would've turned down 75million for a minimum deal.
Gimme a break.
What a shitty article.

 

[jlprk]

Talk about a click bait article.
Yes Crabbe would've agreed to stay with the team that he had played with for a few years.(If no one else paid him)
Except he was offered a max deal by the Nets and it was a no brainer to sign it. Which he signed.
Which forced Portland then matched if they wanted to keep him.
Right or wrong move, that's up for debate.
What's not up for debate is the following.
No where in this article does it say Crabbe would've turned down the max offer to sign a minimum deal with Portland.
In fact that's the exact opposite of what Crabbe said and did.
However this articles headline leads you to believe Crabbe would've turned down 75million for a minimum deal.
Gimme a break.
What a shitty article.

You just mechanically repeated the chronology without reading between the lines. The article had new information. You missed the gist, the theme.

Crabbe thought he was worth minimum wage, because he was (or at least, not a whole lot more).

The Nets' 4 reasons for their outlandish offer were that 1) Crabbe might improve because of a different system, 2) Crabbe would get higher stats because they had less talent than us, 3) as a bottom team they had to make a disproportionate offer to get a mediocre FA, and 4) they were estimating worth from afar (while Olshey had had 3 years of daily observation to decide what the rest of us already knew, that Crabbe isn't worth a lot of money).

Olshey didn't have the Nets' 4 reasons to sign Crabbe, just 1, stupidity. So copycat Olshey duplicated the Nets' offer.

 

[BonesJones]

When Allen Crabbe received a four year/$75 million offer from the Brooklyn Nets in 2016, it turned a lot of heads, including Crabbe’s. In a new interview with Nets Daily, Crabbe says that he never expected to receive such a massive deal, and that he would have returned to the Portland Trail Blazers for the minimum:


Crabbe also talked about how the Nets four-year, $75 million offer sheet in July 2016 blew him away. So, too, did the team’s continuing interest that led to Brooklyn acquiring him in a trade for Andrew Nicholson a year later. Crabbe said he was happy in Portland, claiming he would have agreed to a minimum contract. Then, the Nets came calling.

“Brooklyn called and told me the offer. I was shocked. I was definitely shocked,” Crabbe admitted. “It showed that an organization was really interested in me. You couldn’t pass that up. Signing that offer sheet was rally a no-brainer. Of course, Portland matched that, but for Brooklyn to still be there a year later it showed a lot.”

He also said he had the final “say-so” on the trade because for it to go through, he had to agree to waive a $5 million trade kicker.

In his first season with the Nets, the 26 year old Crabbe averaged 13.2 points per game and shot 38 percent from behind the 3-point line. He is in the third year of his four-year deal.

Never post crap from this source again man... That's such a crappy article, complete with typos and everything.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

For @HCP

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/9/18/17786544/nba-summer-workouts-mixtapes-instagram

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Cippy91]

Never post crap from this source again man... That's such a crappy article, complete with typos and everything.

Blazers edge is shit. I just found it interesting how if the nets didn’t offer that insane deal we had to match he would of took the minimum here.

 

[THE HCP]

For @HCP

Yessir.....The Purple and Gold is back! Hearing from my LA sources a huge addition to the roster will make his return on Christmas Day!!!!

 

[THE HCP]

Free agent guard Jarrett Jack has agreed to a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, per league sources.

 

[THE HCP]

 

[Boob-No-More]

Free agent guard Jarrett Jack has agreed to a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, per league sources.

He is their Steve Blake. This is his third time playing for NOH/NOP.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

This article is unfair to Olshey. It left out the part about someone holding a gun to his head on every overpaid deal. And it didn't mention that no one wants to play in small market Portland, so they sign in New Jersey, New Orleans, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Indianapolis, Peoria, and Timbuktu. It has nothing to do with him.

Who'd we lose to the Generals?

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

He is their Steve Blake. This is his third time playing for NOH/NOP.

BNM

Always loved JJ!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

NY sends a pick to Minny as well...?

 

[julius]

NY sends a pick to Minny as well...?

I'm not sure whats a worse trade.

 

[H.C.]

You just mechanically repeated the chronology without reading between the lines. The article had new information. You missed the gist, the theme.

Crabbe thought he was worth minimum wage, because he was (or at least, not a whole lot more).

The Nets' 4 reasons for their outlandish offer were that 1) Crabbe might improve because of a different system, 2) Crabbe would get higher stats because they had less talent than us, 3) as a bottom team they had to make a disproportionate offer to get a mediocre FA, and 4) they were estimating worth from afar (while Olshey had had 3 years of daily observation to decide what the rest of us already knew, that Crabbe isn't worth a lot of money).

Olshey didn't have the Nets' 4 reasons to sign Crabbe, just 1, stupidity. So copycat Olshey duplicated the Nets' offer.

I repeated what happened and called that article what it was.
Click bait.
I don't have to deal in a hypothetical in an attempt to prove a point.
I even mentioned matching the nets offer sheet to retain Crabbe was up for debate if it was the correct move or not.
Unlike you, I don't have an agenda against NO, I'm also not for NO.
So I don't need to pretend like I know what the Nets were thinking when they gave Crabbe the max.
Or sorry. You called it 'reading between the lines'.

That article was ass with a click bait title.
Using it as a way to show NO is 'stupid'. Is hilarious.

 

[dviss1]

When Allen Crabbe received a four year/$75 million offer from the Brooklyn Nets in 2016, it turned a lot of heads, including Crabbe’s. In a new interview with Nets Daily, Crabbe says that he never expected to receive such a massive deal, and that he would have returned to the Portland Trail Blazers for the minimum:


Crabbe also talked about how the Nets four-year, $75 million offer sheet in July 2016 blew him away. So, too, did the team’s continuing interest that led to Brooklyn acquiring him in a trade for Andrew Nicholson a year later. Crabbe said he was happy in Portland, claiming he would have agreed to a minimum contract. Then, the Nets came calling.

“Brooklyn called and told me the offer. I was shocked. I was definitely shocked,” Crabbe admitted. “It showed that an organization was really interested in me. You couldn’t pass that up. Signing that offer sheet was rally a no-brainer. Of course, Portland matched that, but for Brooklyn to still be there a year later it showed a lot.”

He also said he had the final “say-so” on the trade because for it to go through, he had to agree to waive a $5 million trade kicker.

In his first season with the Nets, the 26 year old Crabbe averaged 13.2 points per game and shot 38 percent from behind the 3-point line. He is in the third year of his four-year deal.

So.

He was offered a max. That's all that matters. We either match or we don't. We shouldn't have and I disagreed art the time, but I understand why we did.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

 

[jlprk]

I repeated what happened and called that article what it was.
Click bait.
I don't have to deal in a hypothetical in an attempt to prove a point.
I even mentioned matching the nets offer sheet to retain Crabbe was up for debate if it was the correct move or not.
Unlike you, I don't have an agenda against NO, I'm also not for NO.
So I don't need to pretend like I know what the Nets were thinking when they gave Crabbe the max.
Or sorry. You called it 'reading between the lines'.

That article was ass with a click bait title.
Using it as a way to show NO is 'stupid'. Is hilarious.

Yeah. Crabbe saying he was all ready to sign with us for the minimum is clickbait, not new information. Right.

 

[Propagandist]

Wtf. Unless that jersey says BUTLER on the back, nobody cares.