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God forbid Clark tears an ACL and is out for the season, but we would then see if people are tuning in for her or these other players. Pretty sure I saw a stat that five of six top attended games Clark was playing in.
 
BIG Q said:
God forbid Clark tears an ACL and is out for the season, but we would then see if people are tuning in for her or these other players. Pretty sure I saw a stat that five of six top attended games Clark was playing in.
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They are definitely tuning in for Clark. I don't think anybody is really denying that. But everyone else is part of the story as well.

And I'm not really sure what it means that everyone is tuning in for her.

Should they just stop guarding her so she can shoot a respectable percentage? Should they stop stealing the ball from her so she doesn't lead the league in turnovers?
 
Phatguysrule said:
They are definitely tuning in for Clark. I don't think anybody is really denying that. But everyone else is part of the story as well.

And I'm not really sure what it means that everyone is tuning in for her.

Should they just stop guarding her so she can shoot a respectable percentage? Should they stop stealing the ball from her so she doesn't lead the league in turnovers?
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I read somewhere that she is being defended as if it is game seven of the finals. Her team sucks and can't help her. They will have to flip the entire roster to maximize her talents. Until then she will have some good games and some meh games.
 
BIG Q said:
I read somewhere that she is being defended as if it is game seven of the finals. Her team sucks and can't help her. They will have to flip the entire roster to maximize her talents. Until then she will have some good games and some meh games.
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So like Dame?
 
THE HCP said:
I have never watched a women’s basketball game I wasn’t working until this past spring’s Iowa games. My daughter,wife,parents and in-laws either. She is simply the reason every new fan is watching, like her or not.
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That's fine. Hype is a thing. But it's also not really relevant.

They aren't just going to stop playing defense on her so she can score like she did in college, where her length was a much bigger advantage.

They aren't just going to be happy about her flopping and whining at the refs.
 
BIG Q said:
I read somewhere that she is being defended as if it is game seven of the finals. Her team sucks and can't help her. They will have to flip the entire roster to maximize her talents. Until then she will have some good games and some meh games.
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Yeah, when you get drafted high you generally go to a bad team.

That's pretty typical. Her team gets the ball up the court just fine when she's on the bench. She has teammates who have been just as effective as she has.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yeah, when you get drafted high you generally go to a bad team.

That's pretty typical. Her team gets the ball up the court just fine when she's on the bench. She has teammates who have been just as effective as she has.
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Guess you are suggesting they wasted the pick and should just cut her. Who would you have taken number one and should Clark have even been drafted? You seem to be well versed in girls basketball. I admit I couldn't really care less.
 
BIG Q said:
Guess you are suggesting they wasted the pick and should just cut her. Who would you have taken number one and should Clark have even been drafted? You seem to be well versed in girls basketball. I admit I couldn't really care less.
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No, I'm not suggesting that at all. It's just pretty silly to expect her to dominate right now. All of the people complaining about her team sucking or her teammates not standing up for her or the rest of the league defending her too good or whatever...

She's going to need to adjust her game to be on a winning team at this level. She can't dribble into a double team and expect to get a decent look. It's going to be a turnover. Complaining at the refs isn't going to make a difference.

She's doing about as well as anybody should have expected her to do.
 
I’m pretty sure if Wemby was cheap shotted like Clark has been, the entire team would come to his side. Pop would be ranting in the press conference and sending film to the league office. Sounds like the WNBA needs to clean up their game like the NBA did after the Pistons era when nobody wanted to watch 75-74 thug ball games. They learned fans pay to see scoring, not cheap shots and free throws. Sabrina didn’t face one-tenth of this on court and off court BS as a rookie. Once the girls work through their insecurities maybe they will realize the league has its first cash cow. I’m sure the NBA players would like it as they have been subsiding the WNBA since its inception. They would probably like to bank that money.
 
BIG Q said:
I’m pretty sure if Wemby was cheap shotted like Clark has been, the entire team would come to his side. Pop would be ranting in the press conference and sending film to the league office. Sounds like the WNBA needs to clean up their game like the NBA did after the Pistons era when nobody wanted to watch 75-74 thug ball games. They learned fans pay to see scoring, not cheap shots and free throws. Sabrina didn’t face one-tenth of this on court and off court BS as a rookie. Once the girls work through their insecurities maybe they will realize the league has its first cash cow. I’m sure the NBA players would like it as they have been subsiding the WNBA since its inception. They would probably like to bank that money.
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I haven't seen her being cheap shotted. They've played tough D on her, but the only out of line foul I've seen was the one we've showed.

Wemby also doesn't flop around like he's been shot for no reason. So his teammates aren't accustomed to him flailing about like that.

If her teammates jumped up every time she flopped around like that the games would take all night.

Sabrina didn't have to deal with all of that largely because she would have just passed the ball and cut to the open spot to break the pressure. It wouldn't work on her.

Clark needs to adjust her game. What worked in college isn't going to work in the pros.

She's going to be fine. She's going to be a very good player. Just give it time.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
That's fine. Hype is a thing. But it's also not really relevant.

They aren't just going to stop playing defense on her so she can score like she did in college, where her length was a much bigger advantage.

They aren't just going to be happy about her flopping and whining at the refs.
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I never said any of that, I simply said SHE is the reason….good or bad…. That everybody is tuning in. The same thing happened with Tiger. All the golfers got pissed about it and then realized how it was better for the game.
 
THE HCP said:
I never said any of that, I simply said SHE is the reason….good or bad…. That everybody is tuning in. The same thing happened with Tiger. All the golfers got pissed about it and then realized how it was better for the game.
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I don't see the similarities (regarding player action, etc.)... It's great that there are more eyes on women's basketball. I think everyone appreciates that.

I don't understand what the complaints are about... What solutions are people seeking?
 
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THE HCP said:
I never said any of that, I simply said SHE is the reason….good or bad…. That everybody is tuning in. The same thing happened with Tiger. All the golfers got pissed about it and then realized how it was better for the game.
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This is a good point. How much are you hearing about Golf right now other than the guy who got arrested. He’s even the number one ranked player in the world and I can’t recall his name.
Sports make money off of superstars. The media is paramount in creating them.
 
If she is still growing attendance and viewership in a year? give her a bonus

My guess, like all things that are hyped to this degree, it will level off after a while.
 
Hoopguru said:
If she is still growing attendance and viewership in a year? give her a bonus

My guess, like all things that are hyped to this degree, it will level off after a while.
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Hope not. Love that more people are viewing the sport. Hopefully Paige builds on that next year but what Clark has brought in terms of eyeballs is unprecedented.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't see the similarities... It's great that there are more eyes on women's basketball. I think everyone appreciates that.

I don't understand what the complaints are about... What solutions are people seeking?
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Not every complaint needs a solution.

At the end of the day - I think everyone is rooting for her and should be rooting for her. She is the best thing that has happened to the WNBA in terms of popularity which in turn should allow the women to get paid more. Which should be the biggest priority. Hope she meets her potential.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Not every complaint needs a solution.

At the end of the day - I think everyone is rooting for her and should be rooting for her. She is the best thing that has happened to the WNBA in terms of popularity which in turn should allow the women to get paid more. Which should be the biggest priority. Hope she meets her potential.
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The WNBA have had some outstanding players over the years and Im sure that Clark will end up a decent pro. The NBA has been a marketing machine for years (The NBA IS FANtastic) and they will try the same with WNBA.
 
Hoopguru said:
The WNBA have had some outstanding players over the years and Im sure that Clark will end up a decent pro. The NBA has been a marketing machine for years (The NBA IS FANtastic) and they will try the same with WNBA.
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Of course. It isn't always just about outstanding players bringing in eyeballs though. Some people just end up more marketable through a variety of factors.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Not every complaint needs a solution.

At the end of the day - I think everyone is rooting for her and should be rooting for her. She is the best thing that has happened to the WNBA in terms of popularity which in turn should allow the women to get paid more. Which should be the biggest priority. Hope she meets her potential.
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Absolutely. Agree 100%
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Of course. It isn't always just about outstanding players bringing in eyeballs though. Some people just end up more marketable through a variety of factors.
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I don't think it's any coincidence that the WNBA had an over $75 million funding round for marketing and building the brand a couple years ago and all of a sudden we've got incredibly popular players year after year and an unbelievable draft class this year, headlined by Caitlin Clark and Cameron Brink, as well as others like Angel Reese who are just very popular.

The women's game hasn't had enough funding to really make a go of it. I think that matters a lot.
 
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