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He says he models his game after Hayward and Bowen, which is awesome, but he should model his game after a less assholish Draymond Green. Shooter, defender, antagonist
 
He's far from a sure thing and even far from a prospect that's likely to develop into a properly good NBA player but it's a low risk as it has already been pointed out, the price was low and he will take any cap space.

Still wish we managed to trade up to get Deyonta. He'll be a steal at #31. Well I just realized that Grizzlies got him and #35 for Clippers 2019 pick, we could have easily offered Cleveland's 2018 and had it. Disappointed.
 
This is a zero risk, insurance pick by Neil...Again zero risk and basically cost us nothing (a current 2nd round pick for a future 2nd round pick plus $1.2 million).

There's risk that we overpaid. As I said in the other thread, we paid the better of the Lakers' or Wolves' 2019 2nd round picks...not our own 2nd round pick. At least one of those teams will suck, so the pick will be early in the 2nd round...to get this year's mid-round pick.

http://www.sportstwo.com/posts/3926377/

Nic's defense won him a surprise starting role at 19.

No, it was Martell Webster missing the whole season. That's like saying that Vonleh's defense won him the starting job over Ed Davis, Meyers Leonard, and Harkless. It's just the way the combinations came out best. McMillan needed a 2nd-squad scorer, so Outlaw didn't start and the passive Batum (Vonleh) did.
 
Can you give me an estimate for how many months before people on this board start calling him Jake Lame-Man??
 
The CBA is so fucked.

Rookie scale contracts are not adjusted to the increased cap?

No wonder first round picks are so valuable. Having such cheap labor for essentially 4-5 seasons on miniscule deals is a massive benefit. Neil better not trade any more of our future picks. Once CJ's max kicks in and Mason starts getting his big $ deal, we will have very little flexibility to add pieces. Need to keep those picks
 
Is Omri Casspi a good comparison? That guy has turned himself into a terrific role player.
 
You said there were two targets the Blazers had - one late 1st & one early second. Did you know the names of those targets?

I believe they really liked Maker but when he went from #35 to #10 in the last 2 days, there was no way they could get that high.
 
https://www.blazersland.com/blazers-target-jake-layman/

What a crazy Draft night but the Blazers don't sit it out entirely. Outside of the media speak, I wonder what Neil saw that he liked in Layman over any of the other possibilities he had?

The modus operandi of the current regime is basically draft hard-working upperclassmen who can shoot - then teach them everything else. It's a good plan that has worked well with Dame, CJ, Crabbe, even Biebs.

I don't really want to cause a shitstorm, but I think the biggest problem most people have with him is he's white. My biggest problem with him is 11.7 ppg.
 
Just watched 3 full games of his (there's quite a few on youtube) and here are my thoughts.

Has good size and a nice shooting stroke, but I'm not sure if he hangs in the league. Positionally, he's pure 3 due to an average reach (8' 6"), while also lacking the necessary physicality and rebounding instincts to be a stretch 4.

Played a very limited role for Maryland and for good reason as he was very turnover prone when asked to create or be a playmaker. Good leaper, but his questionable ball skills don't allow him to show it off very often and he'd rather run the 3pt line than the basket in transition. Shows some post up potential if he has a matchup advantage, but I'm not sure how valuable that is ultimately. The bulk of his offense is spot up 3's or assisted finishes at the rim.

His movement on the floor and shooting form actually reminds me a lot of Mike Dunleavy.

Defensively he has decent lateral quickness and balance, but he's susceptible to the bad closeout and spacey off the ball at times. Not sure if he's going to have the tools to guard multiple positions consistently either.

There wasn't a lot left on the board at this point in the draft, but not in love with the pick.

Stretch 4's need be physical and rebound? I don't think you understand the whole stretch 4 concept. A guy like Channing Frye is the definition of a stretch 4. Make open jumpers and be able to dribble the basketball.

That said, Layman is better suited as a 3. He's got great size for that postion, tested out really well athletically. I see no reason he can't transition into the SF position.
 
47. Orlando Magic (traded to Portland Trail Blazers)

Pick: Jake Layman, forward, Maryland

Grade: C-

Analysis: As a pure-shooting, athletically gifted 6-foot-9 wing, Layman fits the bill in Portland. But he lacks consistency and versatility.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-tracker-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram/86303580/
What's a "C-"? The player or the pick? Either way it doesn't make sense to me. Were there a bunch of guys better than him we should have taken there, to make it an "A" pick? If it's the player, of course he's a C- player: That's why he was a late pick. :confused:

I guess I'm easily confused this morning.
 
I like the pick. It's going to take him a couple years to develop, but I expect he's going to contribute like Crabbe has. Connaughton stuck with the team and didn't do so well as a rookie, but I think he's going to get better.

For a 2nd round pick, you can't expect much, though some do turn out great.
 
Stretch 4's need be physical and rebound? I don't think you understand the whole stretch 4 concept. A guy like Channing Frye is the definition of a stretch 4. Make open jumpers and be able to dribble the basketball.

That said, Layman is better suited as a 3. He's got great size for that postion, tested out really well athletically. I see no reason he can't transition into the SF position.

Good analysis. I agree that he lacks the physicality that he'll need to have. However, he's 22. If he's 26 and still has that problem, then I'll agree with JDC.
 
The modus operandi of the current regime is basically draft hard-working upperclassmen who can shoot - then teach them everything else. It's a good plan that has worked well with Dame, CJ, Crabbe, even Biebs.

I don't really want to cause a shitstorm, but I think the biggest problem most people have with him is he's white. My biggest problem with him is 11.7 ppg.


That and high character
 
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DraftExpress said:
Jake Layman finished his solid, yet inconsistent, four year career at Maryland as a role player for a team that wound up in the Sweet Sixteen...
Layman put up modest numbers as a senior, averaging 15.4 points per 40 minutes pace adjusted on only 10.2 field goal attempts, lowest among small forwards in our top 100. While he came on very strong towards the end of the season, too often he was content to defer to his teammates and drift around the floor for his college career as a whole, showing frustrating passivity...
He pulled down just 5.5 defensive rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted, not really showing an aggressiveness on the glass. He didn't show any intent to box out his man and could be pushed under the basket and taken out of rebounding position.

Oh be still my fluttering heart. He'll never beat out the mighty Pat Connaughton, mind. I like "Frustrating Passivity" as a nickname, though. Kind of Childish Gambino-ish
 
I actually think layman can be something. Athletic, 6'9 guys that can put the ball on the floor and shoot have value. There's no one with that skill set on our current roster except maybe Aminu. He's landed with a great coaching staff that has shown they can get the best out of players so he's in good hands.
Yes, he does seem to have a nice skillset. But his production in college was relativly modest. He was efficient, but it seems he may be a bit of an under achiever.
 

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