Forum Game Official Blazers Offseason Trade/Free Agency Prediction Thread

[kjironman1]

Doesn't matter. Olshey avoids these type of guys like the plague.

You might be right on that.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Trade: Meyers, Turner (god i hope so)

Be careful what you wish for:

 

[Orion Bailey]

Doesn't matter. Olshey avoids these type of guys like the plague.

I wonder how much of that was a pa thing because of the jail blazers and with jodi in control, maybe the goodie too-shoes theme can be backed off a bit?

 

[BigGameDamian]

If Josh Jackson continues along this path he won't be in the league for long just like Isaiah Rider.

 

[Chris Craig]

We can go as far over the cap as we want as long as we don't use either the Full-MLE or do a sign-and-trade.

Then we could just resign everybody without using the mle and just pay the tax bill? I thought once you hit the hard cap you couldn't sign anyone anymore.

 

[Chris Craig]

I think each Portland and Milwaukie would need to give NO a future pick, but what about this?

Puts a shooter/creator next to Giannis. It helps with NO's rebuild, and we get AD to put next to Nurk and a starting caliber shooting guard to replace CJ.

Dame/Simons/Trent
Snell/Brown/Trent
Harkless/Layman
AD/Skal/
Nurk/Kanter?

Doesnt help our cap, and would likely need to do another trade with the excess guards to shore up the big man backups.
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Makes no sense. Pelicans would never do that.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Makes no sense. Pelicans would never do that.

They are cutting salary and getting picks for a rebuild

 

[hoopsjock]

Then we could just resign everybody without using the mle and just pay the tax bill? I thought once you hit the hard cap you couldn't sign anyone anymore.

There is no hard cap unless you use the Full-MLE or do a sign-and-trade to acquire a free agent. This is different than what we can pay certain players to stay. Layman and Aminu we can give max contracts if we really wanted. The other 3 are limited to the Tax-MLE or less.

 

[Natebishop3]

The pessimist in me says we lose Kanter, Hood, Curry, Aminu, and Layman.

Our starting lineup on opening day is:

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Collins
Meyers

 

[hoopsjock]

The pessimist in me says we lose Kanter, Hood, Curry, Aminu, and Layman.

Our starting lineup on opening day is:

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Collins
Meyers

I'd be surprised if at least one of those guys wasn't kept, mainly Layman since he's a restricted free agent.

 

[GhostOfPGA]

POR: LaMarcus Aldridge, Marco Belinelli

CHI: Evan Turner, Moe Harkless, Gary Trent Jr, Portland 2019 first round pick

SAS: Otto Porter Jr, Skal Labissiere, rights to Dani Diez

Give Hood full MLE, re-sign Aminu and Layman.

Sign Dragan Bender and Rajon Rondo to vet min contracts.

Lillard / Rondo
McCollum / Belinelli / Simons
Hood / Layman
Aldridge / Aminu / Bender
Nurkic / Collins / Leonard

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

POR: LaMarcus Aldridge, Marco Belinelli

CHI: Evan Turner, Moe Harkless, Gary Trent Jr, Portland 2019 first round pick

SAS: Otto Porter Jr, Skal Labissiere, rights to Dani Diez

Give Hood full MLE, re-sign Aminu and Layman.

Sign Dragan Bender and Rajon Rondo to vet min contracts.

Lillard / Rondo
McCollum / Belinelli / Simons
Hood / Layman
Aldridge / Aminu / Bender
Nurkic / Collins / Leonard

I don't hate this for the Blazers. Im not 100% sure why SAS would do that though.

 

[GhostOfPGA]

I don't hate this for the Blazers. Im not 100% sure why SAS would do that though.

Get younger/more athletic.

Murray/DeRozan/Porter/White/Poeltl can be built on.

I just don’t see LA being apart of their future, and it’s been shown he and DeRozan only got to the 7th seed as it is, time to move on and re-load.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Get younger/more athletic.

Murray/DeRozan/Porter/White/Poeltl can be built on.

I guess, one thing I dont like is it on paper would keep Simons off the floor, no idea if he’ll ever be great, but a firm believer if you think someone has a shot to be you need to let them play and take their lumps, coach them up, and get them minutes.

I think the trade is interesting!

 

[GhostOfPGA]

I guess, one thing I dont like is it on paper would keep Simons off the floor, no idea if he’ll ever be great, but a firm believer if you think someone has a shot to be you need to let them play and take their lumps, coach them up, and get them minutes.

I think the trade is interesting!

Simons would definitely play, Belinelli/Rondo would be used more situationally.

 

[joeBlazers]

We wasted all this time training Jake. just to let him walk !!!

 

[Scalma]

Out:

Kanter
Hood
Curry
Aminu

Trade: Turner, Harkless, 2020 first (lottery protected) for Hayward

 

[BonesJones]

They are cutting salary and getting picks for a rebuild

Nobody trades a top 5 player to "cut salary" to start a rebuild where they won't be landing free agents with the salary they save. And they're not going to give up AD for two late firsts either...

 

[BonesJones]

POR: LaMarcus Aldridge, Marco Belinelli

CHI: Evan Turner, Moe Harkless, Gary Trent Jr, Portland 2019 first round pick

SAS: Otto Porter Jr, Skal Labissiere, rights to Dani Diez

Give Hood full MLE, re-sign Aminu and Layman.

Sign Dragan Bender and Rajon Rondo to vet min contracts.

Lillard / Rondo
McCollum / Belinelli / Simons
Hood / Layman
Aldridge / Aminu / Bender
Nurkic / Collins / Leonard

I'd rather cut out San Antonio and take Otto Porter in that scenario.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

The pessimist in me says we lose Kanter, Hood, Curry, Aminu, and Layman.

Our starting lineup on opening day is:

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Collins
Meyers

Yikes...

 

[Chris Craig]

The pessimist in me says we lose Kanter, Hood, Curry, Aminu, and Layman.

Our starting lineup on opening day is:

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Collins
Meyers

Depressing

 

[BonesJones]

Creativity.

ATL Gets: Maurice Harkless, #25 (POR)
MIA Gets: Gary Trent Jr, #44 (ATL), Future POR 2nds (if needed)
POR Gets: Taurean Prince, Kelly Olynyk

- Atlanta is likely to get a starting SF with #8 or #10. They probably don't want to pay Prince in that case. Will probably try and trade up into the late teens with #25, #35, and #41. Harkless is a stopgap backup SF or PF.
- Miami is looking at a luxury tax bill next year for a non-playoff team. They also have 3 bigs that get big minutes (Whiteside, Adebeyo, Johnson), so saving $12M and getting some minor assets back for Olynyk is a win for them.

Portland then pursues sign-and-trades for high-level free agents with Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard, and future picks. They could work out a trade like this with other teams than Philadelphia for a S&T free agent.

If they land either, they do this:
PHX Gets: Evan Turner, 2020 POR 1st, 2022 POR 1st
PHI Gets: T.J. Warren, Meyers Leonard
POR Gets: Jimmy Butler or Tobias Harris

- PHX is most likely looking to trade Warren, and could use a backup PG and veteran presence. Getting two picks and an expiring for Warren is a win for them.
- PHI takes Warren to replace Butler who is only making $10M for the next 3 years. They'd be willing to take on Meyers (who makes sense as a backup big that can shoot for them) in order to land Warren. They likely don't land a better player than Warren with the $21M of cap space they lose, and even if they did that $20M+ contract would be worse than Warrens, and probably not worth it from 2020 onward after Meyers expires and Warren keeps making $10M. They'd add a good piece to replace Butler going forward, and a piece that'd help them also maintain flexibility before Simmons is extended. If they didn't want Meyers, they could shop him elsewhere.

Hard capped at $138M. Apx. Salary - $130M w/ 9 players.

Sign Kyle O'Quinn, Glen Robinson, Tim Fraizer, Robert Franks to minimum.

I like the Butler lineup:
Lillard (36) / Simons (12) / Fraizer
McCollum (36) / Butler (12)
Butler (24) / Prince (24) / Robinson
Collins (30) / Labissiere (18) / Franks
Olynyk (30) / O'Quinn (18) / Nurkic*

Once Nurkic returns:

Lillard (36) / Simons (12) / Fraizer
McCollum (36) / Butler (12)
Butler (24) / Prince (24) / Robinson
Olynyk (27) / Labissiere (15) / Collins (6)
Nurkic (27) / Collins (21) / Nurkic*

* You could swap Olynyk's and Collins' role with Collins as the starting PF if ya want.​

 

[GhostOfPGA]

I'd rather cut out San Antonio and take Otto Porter in that scenario.

I think LA’s familiarity with us is more important, plus with Nurk out for a few months it will be good to have a post scorer.

 

[BonesJones]

I think LA’s familiarity with us is more important, plus with Nurk out for a few months it will be good to have a post scorer.

LA is a much worse fit with our guys. We need a two-way player. We need someone who can space the court. LA provides neither, and is aging and on the decline.

People wouldn't want him as bad if he hadn't played here before.

 

[tester551]

I think LA’s familiarity with us is more important, plus with Nurk out for a few months it will be good to have a post scorer.

Since when is LMA a post scorer? All his shots come from the mid-range

 

[kjironman1]

Since when is LMA a post scorer? All his shots come from the mid-range

Exactly where are you getting that LaMarcus Aldridge isn't a post scorer. Here is a shot chart for the 2018-19 season. Maybe it will change your mind a little. Yes he has a very good mid range shot. But the bulk of his scoring and shots come from the paint area. Not only that he is way above average at it.
http://www.austinclemens.com/shotcharts/

Edit- When you click on that link you will have to look for LA as it will come up with Aaron Gordon first.

 

[GhostOfPGA]

LA is a much worse fit with our guys. We need a two-way player. We need someone who can space the court. LA provides neither, and is aging and on the decline.

People wouldn't want him as bad if he hadn't played here before.

Aldridge never has been what I’d call a bad defender, idk I think the time is right to bring him back.

 

[Stevenson]

Hood played himself into a nice deal somewhere, starting, but I doubt it will be here.

Kanter did too, but the thing is, he is a heartfelt guy, and literally a man without a country and family right now. And he feels like he is part of a family here and IMO, that is not insignificant. I am not a capologist like some of you, and no way do I see him taking $5 mil just to feel good, but I do think he loves being here and would love to see the Blazers make some move to keep him here.

 

[kjironman1]

Hood played himself into a nice deal somewhere, starting, but I doubt it will be here.

Kanter did too, but the thing is, he is a heartfelt guy, and literally a man without a country and family right now. And he feels like he is part of a family here and IMO, that is not insignificant. I am not a capologist like some of you, and no way do I see him taking $5 mil just to feel good, but I do think he loves being here and would love to see the Blazers make some move to keep him here.

Enes Kanter has made over $94 million in his career. He has plenty of money. Could he make more? Probably. But i wonder how much he is really after money at this point?

 

[BonesJones]

Aldridge never has been what I’d call a bad defender, idk I think the time is right to bring him back.

Why is the timing right other than for nostalgic purposes?