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I think we should look at that 7'9 guy Son Ming Ming! Have you seen him???
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Another one:
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Now why would we use a draft pick on him?? Sure he's 7'8" or 7'9" but can he play basketball? From what I hear so far all he has a nice little jumpshot but no effective post up game yet. So I dont know about drafting him. His height is intriguing though so I would sign him and take a look at him(I dont think he's going to get drafted) to see if we can develop our own slightly taller Yao Ming. But drafting him right now...I wouldnt do it.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Now why would we use a draft pick on him?? Sure he's 7'8" or 7'9" but can he play basketball? From what I hear so far all he has a nice little jumpshot but no effective post up game yet. So I dont know about drafting him. His height is intriguing though so I would sign him and take a look at him(I dont think he's going to get drafted) to see if we can develop our own slightly taller Yao Ming. But drafting him right now...I wouldnt do it.</div>
But isn't he the same as Martynas? What if we draft him, let him develop overseas or even keep him and send him to Aguirre! We would have a DOMINANT center. If you thought Yao was a giant, this guy is 3-4 inches taller than him. I am convinced it is impossible to suck being that huge.
 
First off, im new here, hey. I am a long time knicks fan and a season ticket holder. I go to many games and I feel I have a great knowledge of the game and the team. Now to the highlight of the knicks season, the upcoming draft. Who do you guys think they will take. Me and Knicks Analyst actually had this arguement on another board. He thinks Gerald Green. I disagree because Green will prove himself in the draft workouts and move up to the top 6 in the draft. I think they will go big anyways because they have no REAL needs besides a bigman. How long can Isiah avoid getting a bigman. I think it wil be one of the Euro's like Tiago Splitter. What are your thoughts?
 
Hey, what's good? It's always nice to see a Knicks fan up in this forum.
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Splitter and Green are tough choices, but I think I might go with Green. His upside his tremendous and he is very young. I like his game and he can give us some good intensity off the bench and in the next 2 years, he can have a break out year when the roster clears up a bit. Imagine having a McGrady-likre player with an Elton Brand-like player along with Ariza (don't know who he reminds me of) and a hopefully mature Jamal Crawford. To to it all off, Jackie Butler could be a decent player and could be in the middle as well.
 
I remeber i suggested green a while ago and everyone said no more guards. Maybe it was on another forum though.
 
I don't remember Green. I remember you said that we should have drafted Julius Hodge though.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't remember Green. I remember you said that we should have drafted Julius Hodge though.</div>
Julius Hodge is a second round pick at best. I think with our second pick we should persure Channing Frye or Johan Petro.
 
I also like Danny Granger a lot, heres a nice little blog on him from nbadraft.net:


Strengths: An extremely well-rounded wing...Can do just about anything on a basketball floor...Ferocious rebounder...Grabs the ball at its apex and isn?t shy to protect it with his elbows...Puts up monster numbers, even when facing constant double/triple teams...The unquestioned leader on the floor...Tremendous shot-blocker...Quick hands...Plays passing lanes very well...Always around the ball...Has all the physical tools, instincts, and intensity to be a shut-down defender...Plays with great intensity and passion...Has great range on his always-improving jumper...Has added the 3-pointer to his arsenal (almost 48% from beyond the arc)...Has a better post-up game than other wing players...Improving spot-up shooter...Runs the floor well...Decent ball-handler...Great finisher...Much better footwork (on both ends) than most players his size...Great build...Long arms...Has cut down on the stupid fouls that have plagued his game in the past...Still has some upside left...A gamer.

Weaknesses: Durability is a major concern...Back/knee problems have forced him to miss parts of the past three seasons...His perimeter skills need extensive polishing, since New Mexico requires him to play inside so much...Needs to become a much better passer...Doesn?t posses a great first step...Just an average athlete, nothing spectacular...Occasional inconsistencies at the foul line (due to a small hitch at the top of his free-throw stroke)...Sometimes forces his offense too much...Inflated stats because of the Mountain West?s lack of talent...The proverbial ?jack of all trades, master of none?...Will have to accept being a role player on the next level...Stamina issues...Has never had a positive assist/turnover ratio.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AirRiza:</div><div class="quote_post">Julius Hodge is a second round pick at best. I think with our second pick we should persure Channing Frye or Johan Petro.</div>
Will Petro be around when we are picking with our second 1st rounder? I hope he is
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No. Petro wont be around when our second pick comes around. He has a good deal of potential and is a true center. He probably wont fall into the twenties. But if you want a good big man for our second pick Fran Vazquez(I forgot how to spell it) might still be around. But my personal favorite is Ronny Turiaf. I think he can give us that toughness the Knicks have been lacking since Oakley left.

By the way what is it with this Green thing? I'm not too sure but wasn't Darius Miles drawing the exact same comparisons as Green is right now? With high school kids you can either get a great player to build your team around or a role player. Let's not take that chance(especially since we already have a developing swingman).
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">No. Petro wont be around when our second pick comes around. He has a good deal of potential and is a true center. He probably wont fall into the twenties. But if you want a good big man for our second pick Fran Vazquez(I forgot how to spell it) might still be around. But my personal favorite is Ronny Turiaf. I think he can give us that toughness the Knicks have been lacking since Oakley left.</div>
I definitely don't think we'll be able to pick up Fran Vazquez. He is projected but almost all the mocks I've seen as a lottery pick. Some evn have him going in the top 5! I wouldn't mind having Turiaf myself. You can have enough tough guys that mean business. Right now, the Knicks definitely don't have that downlow.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">By the way what is it with this Green thing? I'm not too sure but wasn't Darius Miles drawing the exact same comparisons as Green is right now? With high school kids you can either get a great player to build your team around or a role player. Let's not take that chance(especially since we already have a developing swingman).</div>
No, Miles didn't have a jumpshot and thrived off of his athleticism. I'm not sure of Green's worst case scenario, but I know his best case is McGrady...something Miles wasn't. This Green guy can become something big and also, he can give us a nice intensity off the bench and when he starts in a year or so, he will be great! When our backcourt clears up, he'll fit just fine.
 
Oh yeah i guess i just saw the name Gerald Green before. But he was projected as a second rounder.
 
^A second rounder for Green?? I'd take that any day! But it won't happen.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I definitely don't think we'll be able to pick up Fran Vazquez. He is projected but almost all the mocks I've seen as a lottery pick. Some evn have him going in the top 5! I wouldn't mind having Turiaf myself. You can have enough tough guys that mean business. Right now, the Knicks definitely don't have that downlow.


No, Miles didn't have a jumpshot and thrived off of his athleticism. I'm not sure of Green's worst case scenario, but I know his best case is McGrady...something Miles wasn't. This Green guy can become something big and also, he can give us a nice intensity off the bench and when he starts in a year or so, he will be great! When our backcourt clears up, he'll fit just fine.</div>

Fran Vazquez top five??? Someone needs to update their mockdraft. He's basically a seriously underweight jumpshooting big man who plays good defense(not as good as Splitter though) and runs the floor. I wouldnt be surprised if he dropped out of the lottery.

Well Darius Miles was supposed to be something big too and look how that turned out. You never know with highschool kids. We dont need a bigtime player out on the perimeter. We need a big time frontline so please NO SWINGMEN .
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Fran Vazquez top five??? Someone needs to update their mockdraft. He's basically a seriously underweight jumpshooting big man who plays good defense(not as good as Splitter though) and runs the floor. I wouldnt be surprised if he dropped out of the lottery.</div>
Yeah, just about all of them have him as a lottery pick. He's mature and has been putting up good numbers and is a monster shot blocker. Hopefully we can get him without our lottery pick. Isiah scouted him in January and loved him. Come to think of it, Isiah is in Europe right now scouting too!

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well Darius Miles was supposed to be something big too and look how that turned out. You never know with highschool kids. We dont need a bigtime player out on the perimeter. We need a big time frontline so please NO SWINGMEN .</div>
True, but isn't that the same with Europeans too? There have been many busts as well as success stories out there. He as well as Ariza have the potential to be lockdown defenders on this atrocious defensive team. What is our biggest problem, our lack of size, or our lack of defense? I?d say the lack of defense is what lost us many games. Imagine having two 6?8 swingmen playing suffocating defense. They will have great athleticism as well which will go well for them offensively and defensively too. Sure having a big man will help, but I am confident Isiah will bring in someone like Big Z or Kwame Brown to the Knicks. Having a three point shooter can always help, right? Green is an excellent shooter and has the potential to be the next McGrady/Kobe and even better! Anytime you have such potential, it?s really hard to give up.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, just about all of them have him as a lottery pick. He's mature and has been putting up good numbers and is a monster shot blocker. Hopefully we can get him without our lottery pick. Isiah scouted him in January and loved him. Come to think of it, Isiah is in Europe right now scouting too!


True, but isn't that the same with Europeans too? There have been many busts as well as success stories out there. He as well as Ariza have the potential to be lockdown defenders on this atrocious defensive team. What is our biggest problem, our lack of size, or our lack of defense? I?d say the lack of defense is what lost us many games. Imagine having two 6?8 swingmen playing suffocating defense. They will have great athleticism as well which will go well for them offensively and defensively too. Sure having a big man will help, but I am confident Isiah will bring in someone like Big Z or Kwame Brown to the Knicks. Having a three point shooter can always help, right? Green is an excellent shooter and has the potential to be the next McGrady/Kobe and even better! Anytime you have such potential, it?s really hard to give up.</div>

I know what the mock drafts say about Fran Vazquez. And no he's not a monster shot blocker. Despite what the mockdrafts are saying he's going to drop into the twenties. All he does is shoot jumpshots and play defense.

There are plenty of small forwards in this draft that play good defense and can shoot. Why do we need to use a lottery pick to get one? You dont build a team by getting alot of talented players. You build a good team by getting a group of guys who can play together in an effective system. You have faith that Isiah will bring in Big Z?? That's commendable. You're faith is misplaced but it's commendable. I'm almost certain Isiah will do something stupid like trade Sweetney so that we can be a borderline playoff team next season. Kwame Brown is not coming and even if Big Z comes how many more years do you think he has left. We need to stop thinking one season down the line and start thinking where we want to be 3 or 4 seasons from now. If we want to be in a good place 3-4 years from now we'll draft a big man. If we want to be in a bad place...we'll draft Gerald Green.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">All he does is shoot jumpshots and play defense.
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Sounds alot like Allan Houston. Except without the defense.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">I know what the mock drafts say about Fran Vazquez. And no he's not a monster shot blocker. Despite what the mockdrafts are saying he's going to drop into the twenties. All he does is shoot jumpshots and play defense.</div>
You're right. But for some reason, people feel as if this guy is the truth. I wonder why? I wouldn't choose him with my lottery pick, but if he was available with our 30th pick, I'd take a look at him. Petro of course over him.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">There are plenty of small forwards in this draft that play good defense and can shoot. Why do we need to use a lottery pick to get one? You dont build a team by getting alot of talented players. You build a good team by getting a group of guys who can play together in an effective system. </div>
And are there plenty of athletic machines being compared to Tracy McGrady? Talented players don't equate to wins as you said, but he can help us. He can turn into a lock down defender along with Ariza. These two with their size, length, and athleticism can create defensive nightmares for other teams in the near future. The defense on the perimeter as been awful and it would take a whole lot of pressure off of our big men. Getting a great coach can realistically be in our future. If we can get a good coach along with good defensive players, do you see a 90's Knicks like future on the defensive end? This guy is also an excellent shooter and he can fill in our need for a 3 point shooter perfectly.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You have faith that Isiah will bring in Big Z?? That's commendable. You're faith is misplaced but it's commendable. I'm almost certain Isiah will do something stupid like trade Sweetney so that we can be a borderline playoff team next season. Kwame Brown is not coming and even if Big Z comes how many more years do you think he has left. We need to stop thinking one season down the line and start thinking where we want to be 3 or 4 seasons from now. If we want to be in a good place 3-4 years from now we'll draft a big man. If we want to be in a bad place...we'll draft Gerald Green.</div>
I think he can bring in a solid big man through free agency this offseason whether it's one of the two or none of them, I think he will plug up the middle with someone. Green and Ariza can become 2 great defensive swingmen in 4 years (they'll be only 23 and 21 too!), Green will be a more than legit perimeter threat and can develop into a superstar like McGrady, Sweetney will thrive off the space and create in the post and vice versa. Sweetney can put up 20/10 numbers in the near future and we still didn't mention our other rookies we can get! And let's say it doesn't work out and we end up in the lottery yet again. Maybe that will be our time for us to go get Boone, or Randolph Morrison!
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What's up mrj18 and Knicks fans. I don't know if you guys have seen the official JBB mock draft, but I believed that Isiah would go for another guard if he couldn't find an NBA ready center.

Zeke is the strangest GM IMO so it's anybody's guess what type of draft pick he'll go for. The Knicks needs are obviously having a frontline center that can bang and block shots. Low post presence looks pretty decent with Mike Sweetney in the lineup. Unfortunately there's not much NBA ready talent in this area for center. So my guess if New York gets their hands on Chris Taft, he'll get drafted (also helps being he's from Brooklyn and might get up for the Knicks). Second pick would probably be Fran Vasquez who is Marcus Camby-like and the Knicks have expressed interest in getting Marcus Camby back and Marcus Camby wouldn't mind playing for the Knicks. With Sweetney, Marbury, Crawford scoring, all the Knicks really need is some defensive presence and some chemistry so having a guy that doesn't really demand the ball might be a plus for guys like Marbury/Crawford who love to shoot the ball.

If both these center prospects are gone by the time the Knicks are up, I bet another guard will be drafted that has the potential to play small forward (point forward) or another pure point so Marbury can play some shooting guard. I know, it sounds ridiculous, but Isiah might just do it as he's expressed his desire to play a 3 guard lineup.

If Gerald Green/Martell Webster is still on the board, there is no doubt in my mind that Isiah will try to grab him to replace Tim Thomas. If they are not, Isiah might try to go for a shotblocking athlete that can finish alley oops. Fran Vasquez sounds like that sort of player. Taft doesn't have quite the vertical even though he is quick on the floor and he might be long gone since he has the best overall potential.

I don't see Johan Petro being picked that high, but you never know because there's lots of potential, but a lot of question marks at the same time. If he's anything like Steven Hunter, the Knicks might be in trouble for drafting him this high, but he's probably got the best body type to be playing center. Really thick bones. Tiago Splitter is way too skinny to play center and we know how many forwards the Knicks have right now.
 
Great post custodian, it's always nice to hear from you. Yeah, Isiah will be put in a very interesting situation. I must say, I do see him picking Chris Taft. He's a NY native, an Isiah Thomas kind of player and to top it off, the Knicks need another big man that can play center. Fran Vazquez is also a possibility too because of his Camby-esque like you said. Also he does have a strong work ethic. The only thing is I heard is upside isn't too great. Isiah is not a fan of Tim Thomas and Gerald Green is a huge possibility if he slips our way. He has a lot of potential which Isiah likes.

Honestly, I've been thinking about taking Chris Taft. I can imagine him at his full potential. Imagine having a 20/10 2 blocks guy around. But his work ethic is Tim Thomas-esque so that makes me dissapointed. But if we can get him working to his fullest potential and send him to Mark Aguirre we can be working with a monster.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">What's up mrj18 and Knicks fans. I don't know if you guys have seen the official JBB mock draft, but I believed that Isiah would go for another guard if he couldn't find an NBA ready center.

Zeke is the strangest GM IMO so it's anybody's guess what type of draft pick he'll go for. The Knicks needs are obviously having a frontline center that can bang and block shots. Low post presence looks pretty decent with Mike Sweetney in the lineup. Unfortunately there's not much NBA ready talent in this area for center. So my guess if New York gets their hands on Chris Taft, he'll get drafted (also helps being he's from Brooklyn and might get up for the Knicks). Second pick would probably be Fran Vasquez who is Marcus Camby-like and the Knicks have expressed interest in getting Marcus Camby back and Marcus Camby wouldn't mind playing for the Knicks. With Sweetney, Marbury, Crawford scoring, all the Knicks really need is some defensive presence and some chemistry so having a guy that doesn't really demand the ball might be a plus for guys like Marbury/Crawford who love to shoot the ball.

If both these center prospects are gone by the time the Knicks are up, I bet another guard will be drafted that has the potential to play small forward (point forward) or another pure point so Marbury can play some shooting guard. I know, it sounds ridiculous, but Isiah might just do it as he's expressed his desire to play a 3 guard lineup.

If Gerald Green/Martell Webster is still on the board, there is no doubt in my mind that Isiah will try to grab him to replace Tim Thomas. If they are not, Isiah might try to go for a shotblocking athlete that can finish alley oops. Fran Vasquez sounds like that sort of player. Taft doesn't have quite the vertical even though he is quick on the floor and he might be long gone since he has the best overall potential.</div>

Isiah Thomas isnt strange...he's a clown. I think the Knicks should use their first pick to draft a big man to help out their frontline whether their NBA ready or not. Tiago Splitter has my vote, he's a seven foot tall paint animal and fits the description of an athletic shot blocker who can finish alley ooops. He plays intense defense, rebounds well, good passer, plays smart basketball, has solid fundamentals and with his athleticism and wingspan he could be a great intimidator in the paint. Right now he's basically a blue collar kind of guy who will take his lunch pail to work every single day. He also has the potential to be a good post up player similiar to Pau Gasol. He's a little on the skinny side but has a good body frame so he'll be able to put on pounds without sacrificing his quickness and athleticism. All in all he's a low risk/ high reward player who will definetely be able to contribute even if he doesnt live up to his full potential(and he probably will). As for Taft...I dont trust him. He has great potential but he looks like a headcase and I dont want to take any chances. Besides he'll probably be one of the first players taken.

Thomas is indeed obsessed with this three guard line up thingy(guess he's thinking of the old glory days with the Pistons). But their arent any shooting guards in the draft that can run the point. You're right though, Isiah Thomas will likely draft a guard even though this year their arent many quality shooting guards. He has said that he is considering drafting a high school player and letting him develop. So I'm guessing he's looking at Gerald Green even though the thing the Knicks really need is some size in the frontline.

Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Great post custodian, it's always nice to hear from you. Yeah, Isiah will be put in a very interesting situation. I must say, I do see him picking Chris Taft. He's a NY native, an Isiah Thomas kind of player and to top it off, the Knicks need another big man that can play center. Fran Vazquez is also a possibility too because of his Camby-esque like you said. Also he does have a strong work ethic. The only thing is I heard is upside isn't too great. Isiah is not a fan of Tim Thomas and Gerald Green is a huge possibility if he slips our way. He has a lot of potential which Isiah likes.

Honestly, I've been thinking about taking Chris Taft. I can imagine him at his full potential. Imagine having a 20/10 2 blocks guy around. But his work ethic is Tim Thomas-esque so that makes me dissapointed. But if we can get him working to his fullest potential and send him to Mark Aguirre we can be working with a monster.</div>
It's always good to hear from ya on the W's board. Taft plays more like a center than he does power forward and has passing skills.

Isiah might like him since he's got potential, he's from Brooklyn, he's physically ready now and Isah's had no problems playing an undersized starting center that's really the size of a power forward. Problem is he could be the next Erick Dampier or Kwame Brown in terms of work ethic or attitude. Isiah is an impatient GM that likes to make a lot of moves so whether it's upside or not, expect the pick to be traded or a draft of some guy who can probably contribute right now. If he gets Splitter he's going to have to wait a while, because the guy has the body frame of a tall small forward or an undersized power forward. Still he's probably the most well rounded big man. I rave about his potential, but he won't be a bruiser at center and NY has too many power forwards as it is. There's quite a logjam and a messy cap situation so it doesn't look pretty as you all know.

If he finds his tall shooting guard, Isiah will be all over him like he is with Starbury.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">It's always good to hear from ya on the W's board. Taft plays more like a center than he does power forward and has passing skills.

Isiah might like him since he's got potential, he's from Brooklyn, he's physically ready now and Isah's had no problems playing an undersized starting center that's really the size of a power forward. Problem is he could be the next Erick Dampier or Kwame Brown in terms of work ethic or attitude. Isiah is an impatient GM that likes to make a lot of moves so whether it's upside or not, expect the pick to be traded or a draft of some guy who can probably contribute right now. If he gets Splitter he's going to have to wait a while, because the guy has the body frame of a tall small forward or an undersized power forward. Still he's probably the most well rounded big man. I rave about his potential, but he won't be a bruiser at center and NY has too many power forwards as it is. There's quite a logjam and a messy cap situation so it doesn't look pretty as you all know.

If he finds his tall shooting guard, Isiah will be all over him like he is with Starbury.</div>
Yeah that's good for the Knicks. They will have a commanding post presense who can eventually draw doubles and that can open it up on the perimeter.

I think he'll be especially effective playing in the east. He is 6'10, but he has a nice wingspan and a good body to make up for his size. Isiah loves those risky moves. He is a high risk/high reward type of player and knowing Isiah he'd choose him. Word is that he is interested in Martynas although he has to wait for him to develop. I really think he'll choose Taft though.

Those tall athletic swingmen are Thomas' favorite and I can definitely see him choosing Green over Taft. I just want to see what he'll do if Vazquez, Taft, and Green are all gone!
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Isiah Thomas isnt strange...he's a clown. I think the Knicks should use their first pick to draft a big man to help out their frontline whether their NBA ready or not. Tiago Splitter has my vote, he's a seven foot tall paint animal and fits the description of an athletic shot blocker who can finish alley ooops. He plays intense defense, rebounds well, good passer, plays smart basketball, has solid fundamentals and with his athleticism and wingspan he could be a great intimidator in the paint. Right now he's basically a blue collar kind of guy who will take his lunch pail to work every single day. He also has the potential to be a good post up player similiar to Pau Gasol. He's a little on the skinny side but has a good body frame so he'll be able to put on pounds without sacrificing his quickness and athleticism. All in all he's a low risk/ high reward player who will definetely be able to contribute even if he doesnt live up to his full potential(and he probably will). As for Taft...I dont trust him. He has great potential but he looks like a headcase and I dont want to take any chances. Besides he'll probably be one of the first players taken.

Thomas is indeed obsessed with this three guard line up thingy(guess he's thinking of the old glory days with the Pistons). But their arent any shooting guards in the draft that can run the point. You're right though, Isiah Thomas will likely draft a guard even though this year their arent many quality shooting guards. He has said that he is considering drafting a high school player and letting him develop. So I'm guessing he's looking at Gerald Green even though the thing the Knicks really need is some size in the frontline.

Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.</div> Crap my entire post got erased because my login expired. Dammit!

Anway I like Tiago Splitter too, but the bottom line is the cap situation is so messed up, there's no leverage to really improve areas that needed to be improved. I would say trade the draft pick if none of the big men are suitable centers. Maybe work out a deal with Minny to equip them with a drafted point guard (Deron Williams/Jarret Jack) and dump somebody like Malik Rose, Tim Thomas or Mo Taylor, who the Knicks aren't going to use much anyway with the number of forwards they have, and possibly try to get Danny Granger out of it, Sam Cassell or Michael Olowakandi. You got a 6'7 guy that can play three positions (either guard spot and forward) and he has all around skills for the most part. And you'd get a serviceable backup center or a serviceable combo guard and maybe unload Moochie Norris or whoever is still under contract.

The Knicks team chemistry is bad IMO, too many blackholes on offense. It doesn't help when Isiah is liking guys like Wallyworld of all players and some other shoot first type of guys. Here's what I think of the Knicks roster: Crawford doesn't know when to pass or shoot, Tim Thomas doesn't know where he is on offense, Marbury has poor shot selection at times and he is just not a very good shooter and Kurt Thomas shouldn't be forced to play center like he is doing now. A chemistry guy taken from the draft or from some other team would be a plus for the Knicks, who don't have a player to tie everyone together.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah that's good for the Knicks. They will have a commanding post presense who can eventually draw doubles and that can open it up on the perimeter.

I think he'll be especially effective playing in the east. He is 6'10, but he has a nice wingspan and a good body to make up for his size. Isiah loves those risky moves. He is a high risk/high reward type of player and knowing Isiah he'd choose him. Word is that he is interested in Martynas although he has to wait for him to develop. I really think he'll choose Taft though.

Those tall athletic swingmen are Thomas' favorite and I can definitely see him choosing Green over Taft. I just want to see what he'll do if Vazquez, Taft, and Green are all gone!</div>
After drafting that 7'2" polish kid awhile back, I doubt he'd have the patience for a project like Martynas Andri-whatever. By the time he's ready to play, Starbury could be breaking down with 12 mil per year or more on his contract with yearly increases. The Knicks have to get out of cap hell, because the new CBA probably won't help them still.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Crap my entire post got erased because my login expired. Dammit!

Anway I like Tiago Splitter too, but the bottom line is the cap situation is so messed up, there's no leverage to really improve areas that needed to be improved. I would say trade the draft pick if none of the big men are suitable centers. Maybe work out a deal with Minny to equip them with a drafted point guard (Deron Williams/Jarret Jack) and dump somebody like Malik Rose, Tim Thomas or Mo Taylor, who the Knicks aren't going to use much anyway with the number of forwards they have, and possibly try to get Danny Granger out of it, Sam Cassell or Michael Olowakandi. You got a 6'7 guy that can play three positions (either guard spot and forward) and he has all around skills for the most part. And you'd get a serviceable backup center or a serviceable combo guard and maybe unload Moochie Norris or whoever is still under contract.

The Knicks team chemistry is bad IMO, too many blackholes on offense. It doesn't help when Isiah is liking guys like Wallyworld of all players and some other shoot first type of guys. Here's what I think of the Knicks roster: Crawford doesn't know when to pass or shoot, Tim Thomas doesn't know where he is on offense, Marbury has poor shot selection at times and he is just not a very good shooter and Kurt Thomas shouldn't be forced to play center like he is doing now. A chemistry guy taken from the draft or from some other team would be a plus for the Knicks, who don't have a player to tie everyone together.</div>

I hated that whenever it happened to me.

The cap situation is bad indeed and it's not going to get any better for a few years. But we can still improve areas of that need improvement through the draft. We need size, shotblocking, and defense(can you say Splitter?). Trading away the draft pick like you said is a band aid solution. Sam Cassell is getting old, Kandiman has just been a big disappointment and I dont want to add on anymore salary. I'd much rather just get a good young player who will give us size, do the dirty work for now and develop into a good player in the future.

You're thoughts on the Knicks roster are correct. But the biggest problem hasnt been the chemistry on offense(although that's been an issue as well it's been the defense. We need to draft players who can shore up our defense. Guys like Ronny Turiaf and Splitter will do wonders for our defense. On a side note: I would love nothing more than to trade Marbury for a few draft picks, pack up Mo Taylor along with him, trade Kurt Thomas for a first rounder and rebuild this entire club using this draft.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
 
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I feel you on Splitter Tribute, but imagine if Taft reaches his full potential. He would be a monster. Agguire has so much to work with in this guy. He could be a headcase, but he can also be a superstar giving us 20/10 a night. I think this is a risk worth taking, Tribute. I heard his worse case scenario is Olowokandi, and he managed to average 9/7.4 and 1.5bpg. Those are pretty good worse case scenario numbers. Are we playing to win, or playing not to lose?
 
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