Official Draft Discussion Thread

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">See the thing is I would dratf a player if he played in the U.S and had the same stats. But players who've only played over seas I wouldnt draft. Just look at that guy who used to be on the suns. They clamed he was the Japanese Jordan..... Where is now? Yao was amped up to be the next shaq. IMO Eddy Curry will be better than him. Illgaukus is good but not really my type of player.</div>

The Japnese Jordan? I didn't know he was supposed to be that good. Also on the Nuggets Nikolz Tskvitjksnoj or what ever is name is. That's what I don't want. A proven guy is what I would take. I think I might even take a high schooler before an unproven European player too.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">See the thing is I would dratf a player if he played in the U.S and had the same stats. But players who've only played over seas I wouldnt draft. Just look at that guy who used to be on the suns. They clamed he was the Japanese Jordan..... Where is now? Yao was amped up to be the next shaq. IMO Eddy Curry will be better than him. Illgaukus is good but not really my type of player.</div>

So there have been some disappointments regarding overseas players that will of course happen. There are alot of homegrown players that have turned into disappointments. For the record I liked Tabuse(I think that was his name). So what if Yao doesnt become the next Shaq? He's still the second best center in the league. I hope you were joking when you said that Curry will be better than Yao. Yao is just better than Curry. I could point out why but there is no need to, that's how much better Yao is(and always will be) than Curry. By the way Curry was thought to be the next Shaq as well and look at him now. There are too many good players overseas to say that you wouldnt draft anyone from overseas especially considering the way we had our heads handed to us in the Olympics.

 

[Beat]

Yes in a league of how many get good centers?
I think hes the 2nd best player in the league because hes the only center in the league thats a #1/2 scoring option. Brad Miller is putting up close stats and so is Ilgaukus. As a matter of fact the second best center in the league would really be Amare. And believe it or not Eddy Curry isnt to far behind.
About the Olympics. If our team was allowed to run like every other NBA filled team was allowed to to instead of trying to play half court we would have easilly one the gold metal.

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I know.

He's with the Hornets now though. I heard that he was supposed to be a lottery pick but, he had problems with his contract and stuff. I liked him too but, we all know Isiah Thomas

I understand about their fundamentals but, there are tons of European busts out there. I guess we owe it to them to actually take a look at them I doubt any of us here have seen them play but, just depend on the opinions of others. Once June rolls around, I think we can start making a more accurate analysis though.

Guards are a dime a dozen but, hall of fame guards aren't really. This Paul guy has some serious potential. I mean real point guards are very rare. Nowadays, point guards look to score more and create for themselves rather than others. Now that we have one with some serious potential, I think we ought to take a look at that. He is really good, he will make the other players around him look like stars. Also these guards that we have don't play any defense whatsoever. I think Mohammed is a decent center but, how frustrating is it when he has to switch up on someone else?s man because of the constant mistakes from the guys on the perimeter. There are tons of legit big men in the that are projected to be drafted in the second round. Many GM?s want what you were just talking about?a home grown player so that will leave us with more opportunities to draft overseas. Also international players tend not to really have a knack for playing the way you were talking about. A lot of them from what I have seen are more offensive oriented and don?t really have a knack for shot blocking.

I would want a decent big man too with a nice little jumper that will compliment Sweetney well too. I think Marbury distributing for us is not good. We need a point guard. The only reason why we made the blockbuster last January was so we can get a 1guard but, we still don?t have one?we have an undersized shooting guard with some good passing skills. The point guard is the most important position in basketball and after seeing point guards like Nash and especially Kidd work Magic on teams, I think that?s what we need. Ariza, and Sweetney will flourish because of the distribution of the ball and even more importantly, the whole team will flourish. New York is a mediocre passing team at #16 in the league and it?s such a shame because we have so many great options.</div>

Of course there are tons of European disappointments. Remember Europe is not a country it's a continent. Lots of people= lots of ball players= lots of busts. That only makes sense. I understand that point guards are vital to success but it will be much easier finding a good point guard to run our team of the future then a good center. I'm sure that we'll find someone suitable to run the point for us next season in the first round or we could just trade for one. Teams are willing to trade good point guards or let them walk, but they wont trade good big men unless they get some serious compensation. Centers also take longer to develop than guards if we want our center of the future to be polished and ready to go we have to draft him now. About the perimeter defense thing, with a solid shot blocker bad perimeter defense wont be that big of an issue. It wasnt last season when we had Mutumbo.

I'm sure we can find an international player that can block shots and shoot in the lottery. There has to be at least one in the lottery. Point guards may ochestrate the offense and lead the team to victory but big men provide the foundation for the offense. Get a center now and a point guard next season or pull off another steal in the second round. But one thing is for sure, we better use this lottery pick to get ourselves a great center or we could regret it.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes in a league of how many get good centers?
I think hes the 2nd best player in the league because hes the only center in the league thats a #1/2 scoring option. Brad Miller is putting up close stats and so is Ilgaukus. As a matter of fact the second best center in the league would really be Amare. And believe it or not Eddy Curry isnt to far behind.
About the Olympics. If our team was allowed to run like every other NBA filled team was allowed to to instead of trying to play half court we would have easilly one the gold metal.</div>

You have your logic backwards. He's not a great center because he's a #1/2 scoring option. The reason why he's a #1/2 scoring option is because he's a great center. Makes sense? You also have to take into account how they get their points. Yao posts up and shoots the ball over his man whereas Brad Miller just takes jumpshots whenever he's open.

I dont know about Amare being better than Yao. Yao is a traditional center whereas Amare is really a powerforward playing center and besides he has the best point guard in the league on his side giving him easy dunks. If Curry isnt too far behind Yao and Amare than Sweetney must be among them since Sweetney is clearly a superior player to Curry. Larry Brown did not stop team USA from running. He lets the Pistons run when they can. The other teams just got back on defense. Besides dont you think there's something wrong with the fact that we couldnt play in the halfcourt against the rest of the world? Truth to be told we shouldnt have advanced past Spain, we got lucky.

 

[Mr. J]

Oh, you want a Mutombo? Sure I'll take that any day. I don't think they're amy in the draft. Maybe a decent shot blocker but, I don't know about a potential 3rd all-time shot blocker. Except I wouldn't want him to be so slow, and swing the elbows like that!

Well, I know Europe is big and everything however, there have been more busts than there were decent players, yet alone stars. I think we can easily get a decent big man in the draft who is defensive minded. Also, if we trade Marbury for a better pick, we still have our cake and eat it too. Let's say we trade with say, Atlanta. We give them Marbury for their pick, while we still have our original. That might be a 3rd and 7th pick in the draft!

 

[02civic]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh, you want a Mutombo? Sure I'll take that any day. I don't think they're amy in the draft. Maybe a decent shot blocker but, I don't know about a potential 3rd all-time shot blocker. Except I wouldn't want him to be so slow, and swing the elbows like that!

Well, I know Europe is big and everything however, there have been more busts than there were decent players, yet alone stars. I think we can easily get a decent big man in the draft who is defensive minded. Also, if we trade Marbury for a better pick, we still have our cake and eat it too. Let's say we trade with say, Atlanta. We give them Marbury for their pick, while we still have our original. That might be a 3rd and 7th pick in the draft!</div>

That would be nice...but i dont think any teams in the lower regions of the draft would be interested in Marbury's contract. The only team i would think has half a chance would be NO if they deal Baron, but even then i think they'd keep the pick to rebuild since, even with Marbury, they aint going anywhere anytime soon. I suggested Donyell and Alston for Lue and Atlanta's pick but i dont think they'd bite. Perhaps a Donyell, Alston and Eric Williams for Lue, Atlanta's pick and Tony Delk, and make it work with either another team or a trade exception...but I'm not so sure of that.
Anyways...i'm getting off topic....i dont think they could get it for Marbury, but they should still be able to get a quality player.

 

[Mr. J]

^Of course not for those Raptor players. Marbury has proven he is a good player and has put up great numbers throughout his career. What's the purpose of saving cap room if you're not using it to get a good player? Marbury, Walker, Harrington and a developing Smith. and Childress can become very dangerous and put the Hawks on the map.

 

[02civic]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">^Of course not for those Raptor players. Marbury has proven he is a good player and has put up great numbers throughout his career. What's the purpose of saving cap room if you're not using it to get a good player? Marbury, Walker, Harrington and a developing Smith. and Childress can become very dangerous and put the Hawks on the map.</div>


Perhaps, but the Hawks are a thrify bunch...they dont overspend. I think the Raptors i mentioned would be a more attractive package as far as the Hawks are concerned. Besides, Marbury is not worth what he gets paid, and they'll know hhey could find a better PG for their needs, not necessarily overall skill, elsewhere. Even Alston, while not as skilled as Marbury, would be a better fit for their team seeing as he makes about 1/3rd of the money and is putting up decent numbers. Now in no way am i saying Alston is better than Marbury, but he's cheaper.
You would think Marbury would have good trade value being that he's a good player. But you're forced to wonder his true worth on the block. Will teams look at him and see a quality point guard or will they consider him a trade liability because of his price tag.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">Perhaps, but the Hawks are a thrify bunch...they dont overspend. I think the Raptors i mentioned would be a more attractive package as far as the Hawks are concerned. Besides, Marbury is not worth what he gets paid, and they'll know hhey could find a better PG for their needs, not necessarily overall skill, elsewhere. Even Alston, while not as skilled as Marbury, would be a better fit for their team seeing as he makes about 1/3rd of the money and is putting up decent numbers. Now in no way am i saying Alston is better than Marbury, but he's cheaper.
You would think Marbury would have good trade value being that he's a good player. But you're forced to wonder his true worth on the block. Will teams look at him and see a quality point guard or will they consider him a trade liability because of his price tag.</div>
I don't really think he is overpaid. He is a more than decent point guard. If anything, not anymore overpaid than Antoine Walker. Marbury puts up 20 and 8 a game. Those are averages since Oscar Robinson was around. The Hawks need someone who can score because usually Walker and Harrington take the load and that's it. Marbury provides more ball distribution as well as much needed scoring. Honestly, who would really want to play in Atlanta? Not many players Marbury I think can draw some interest and put Atlanta on the map again.

Alston is a decent point guard and is cheap which is a good thing. Marshall is a good player and definitely underrated but, for a 1st round pick, especially a top 3??? Let's be more reasonable. The Hawks are getting a top player and top point guard in the league if they decide to accept. I think that is more feasible than Rafer Alston and Marshall don't you?

 

[02civic]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't really think he is overpaid. He is a more than decent point guard. If anything, not anymore overpaid than Antoine Walker. Marbury puts up 20 and 8 a game. Those are averages since Oscar Robinson was around. The Hawks need someone who can score because usually Walker and Harrington take the load and that's it. Marbury provides more ball distribution as well as much needed scoring. Honestly, who would really want to play in Atlanta? Not many players Marbury I think can draw some interest and put Atlanta on the map again.

Alston is a decent point guard and is cheap which is a good thing. Marshall is a good player and definitely underrated but, for a 1st round pick, especially a top 3??? Let's be more reasonable. The Hawks are getting a top player and top point guard in the league if they decide to accept. I think that is more feasible than Rafer Alston and Marshall don't you?</div>


Personally i dont think Marbury is a more attractive package than Alston, Marshall and EWill. I would bet a majority of teams would take Alston and Marshall over Marbury, becuase of contract situations. Marbury's great, he's a true talent but 14.6 million this year going all the way up to 23 million a season. He's not worth it, I could see him getting a 10 mil per contract but thats has high as i'd go given his need to dominate the ball as well as his uber weak defence. I just dont think he'll have a high trade value based on his contract, talent aside. I cant think of any teams in the league that need a 14.6-23 million dollar shooting point gaurd. He can dish the ball when he wants too no doubt, but can he play team ball at the level that's required to win a championship?
I could see Atlanta wanting Alston based on his affordability and his skills, but they'd hesitate from his lack of expierence and his attitude. They'd want Marbury for his skills, and they'd consider that he's been a team leader before. But then they'd remember that its always been on average to bad teams, and that his contract is pretty harsh. Donyell probably has no interest for them at this point. They do need a PF to replace Twan but with him being a free agent they could just aquire him that way if the wanted...might be easier if they had him for half a season though, make some conections and that junk. Ewill is their type of player... a role player to the last and effective at a very minimum price.
Its not probable i dont think, but then agian not impossible. But i'd say more likely than the same trade (filler, 1st rounder) for Marbury.
Just my opinion

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">Personally i dont think Marbury is a more attractive package than Alston, Marshall and EWill. I would bet a majority of teams would take Alston and Marshall over Marbury, becuase of contract situations. Marbury's great, he's a true talent but 14.6 million this year going all the way up to 23 million a season. He's not worth it, I could see him getting a 10 mil per contract but thats has high as i'd go given his need to dominate the ball as well as his uber weak defence. I just dont think he'll have a high trade value based on his contract, talent aside. I cant think of any teams in the league that need a 14.6-23 million dollar shooting point gaurd. He can dish the ball when he wants too no doubt, but can he play team ball at the level that's required to win a championship?
I could see Atlanta wanting Alston based on his affordability and his skills, but they'd hesitate from his lack of expierence and his attitude. They'd want Marbury for his skills, and they'd consider that he's been a team leader before. But then they'd remember that its always been on average to bad teams, and that his contract is pretty harsh. Donyell probably has no interest for them at this point. They do need a PF to replace Twan but with him being a free agent they could just aquire him that way if the wanted...might be easier if they had him for half a season though, make some conections and that junk. Ewill is their type of player... a role player to the last and effective at a very minimum price.
Its not probable i dont think, but then agian not impossible. But i'd say more likely than the same trade (filler, 1st rounder) for Marbury.
Just my opinion</div>
Well you and I are not the Hawks or any other franchise in the league. Everything we say is based more on opinions.

Btw, I thought of an equation:

Andrew Bogut + Mark Agguire = A MONSTER
Probably wont happen but if it did, we would tear up the league. Anyway, what other big men is around. Any college junkies around here?

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">
Btw, I thought of an equation:

Andrew Bogut + Mark Agguire = A MONSTER
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Very well said. If Aguirre could morph the one time 3rd stringer Mohhamed into a 11/9 guy, he could make Bogut 20/14.

Good equation. And it really is true.
Of course, this is just a pipe dream.

 

[Mr. J]

If we get in the lottery trade all of our picks plus anyone else (excpet Ariza, Sweetney) Penny, TT do you think we can get him?

A future frontline of Sweetney, Bogut, and Ariza will easily be sucessful. You have a nice post presence in Sweetney, a fundamentally sound player in Bogut and a slasher in Ariza. That is a pretty good lineup. It gives me jitters just thinking about it!

 

[P.A.P.]

Bogut isn't falling in out of the top 5, probably not even the top 3(depending on if Marvin Williams declares). Unless you guys get a top 3 pick or maybe the 4th pick, I don't see the Knicks taking him..

There aren't really any Centers in this draft besides Bogut and Petro, so you're better off doing some sort of trade that involves Marbury, because your aren't going anywhere with him at the Point, just like the Nets and Suns. If you draft a PF, then Sweetney isn't likely in Isiah's long term plan. If you draft a SF, then Isiah is prepared to use Ariza off the bench for the long term, unless Ariza ends up being better than the drafted SF. With Crawford locked the SG (could be traded like anyone else), that leaves the PG spot. Marbury isn't safe anywhere he goes, so I'd look for a PG to back him up and possibly takeover his role if he is traded. PG's that will likely be available at the Knicks projected pick: Raymond Felton, Rudy Fernandez, Daniel Gibson, John Gilchrist, Deron Williams.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Bogut isn't falling in out of the top 5, probably not even the top 3(depending on if Marvin Williams declares). Unless you guys get a top 3 pick or maybe the 4th pick, I don't see the Knicks taking him..

There aren't really any Centers in this draft besides Bogut and Petro, so you're better off doing some sort of trade that involves Marbury, because your aren't going anywhere with him at the Point, just like the Nets and Suns. If you draft a PF, then Sweetney isn't likely in Isiah's long term plan. If you draft a SF, then Isiah is prepared to use Ariza off the bench for the long term, unless Ariza ends up being better than the drafted SF. With Crawford locked the SG (could be traded like anyone else), that leaves the PG spot. Marbury isn't safe anywhere he goes, so I'd look for a PG to back him up and possibly takeover his role if he is traded. PG's that will likely be available at the Knicks projected pick: Raymond Felton, Rudy Fernandez, Daniel Gibson, John Gilchrist, Deron Williams.</div>
Yeah, I wanted that too. Marbury is the destruction of this franchise that's why I said Marbury for Paul staright up. Those other 1's in the draft are good but, I would want a top notch point guard. We don't need a scoring 1 we need a point guard. If we get a true leader running the show, the Knicks can become successful.

I heard about that Petro guy. I don't know how proven he is though. Certainly not at the level of Bogut. He seems like a nice shot blocking center but according to many scouts, his offense is pretty bad. From what I read about him, my perspective is that he is a poor mans Ben Wallace. What we want is a good shot blocker with a shot to compliment Sweetney.

Martynas Andriuskevicius.
Lithuania
7-3
240
Age: 17
Strengths
This guy looks decent right here, Martynas Andriuskevicius. I don't know how to pronounce his name either. He appears to have a nice touch he can shoot Kurt Thomas range and a little 3 too. He has long arms and blocks shots too. Very athletic and posses quickness to out match the opposition. He also has some good court vision and his extra height helps him too.

Weaknesses
He really needs to bulk up though. He is very skinny and he obviously has some weaknesses against stronger centers. He needs to also increase his post moves. Most of his scoring is mostly from shooting.

I heard he was supposed to be projected as Ilguaskaus. Anyway, he looks like a decent project, but should we use him as a possible 7th pick? I also heard he might develop into a Sabonis too!

 

[Mr. J]

Nemanja Aleksandrov
17 years old
Serbian
6?11
210
His name, Nemanja Aleksandrov. This guy is great. In fact I know some people like Tribute to H2O and Knicks analyst will be especially happy. He is supposed to develop into a poor mans Tim Thomas! That?s how great he?ll end up. Just kidding. Seriously, this guy has some huge potential. He?s a 7 footer, is mobile, and athletic. He is very versatile, he can run the floor, and with his good handle he can bring the ball up. Forget about point forward, ever heard of point center! He can definitely develop that type of skill. He is a great shooter. I?m talking about a great shooter. The only similarity between TT and him are their mismatches they create. When you put a smaller defender on him he shoots right over them. If you put a bigger man on him, he blows right past them with his athleticism and his ball handling skills. He is also a pretty good defender because he can stay with his man on defense with good lateral quickness. He is a good rebounder, and a pretty decent shot blocker.

Well just like many prospects his skinny and needs to bulk up. He doesn?t have much of a post game yet either. He can also be more aggressive down low and could stand to be a bit tougher. I?m not saying be like Rodman, he just needs to play with more ?reckless-abandon.? He can be a little forgetful of his teammates sometimes and tries to do to much. This wont be a problem really because he wont be the number 1 option.

He is projected to be the next Dirk but, he has a possibility of becoming better than Dirk in fact, one website said he can become a cross between KG and Dirk!! He has some great potential and if you want a player that can compliment Sweetney perfectly than it will have to be him. Another one said he can become a better version of Keith Van Horn. Either way we?ll know he can become a good player.

 

[Beat]

Sounds like a Sabonis

 

[Mr. J]

We can definitely use a Sabonis too.

Btw, who was Trevor Ariza supposed to be projected as? Just curious.

 

[Platehpus]

Ariza wasn't really compared to anyone. Scouts said he had big time talent, but thought he made the mistake of coming out of UCLA too early. They also said he could play point forward, which we've seen very little of. Every scout seems to agree that if he puts 20-25 pounds on in the offseason he'll be a wrecking machine next year.

 

[Beat]

He was probably compared best case to Jalen Rose.
But about this kid Julius Hodge. Best case Penny in Orland worst case Marquis Daniels

Daniels is nice so i dont know about u guys but if we cant get a top pick i think we should go after him.
And hes from Mrj's home town

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">He was probably compared best case to Jalen Rose.
But about this kid Julius Hodge. Best case Penny in Orland worst case Marquis Daniels

Daniels is nice so i dont know about u guys but if we cant get a top pick i think we should go after him.
And hes from Mrj's home town

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What will that do to Ariza? I don't think we should get him. If we do, either him or Crawford has to leave. I heard he might also turn into Ron Harper too, but I don't think we'll need him. That's right Harlem stand up!

Btw, do you think Ariza will be good as a 2 guard. He's played it before and he can give most of them size problems especially since he has long arms too. Once he gets a jumpshot, I think he'll be good for it. It will also give us an opportunity to get that Dirk guy. Just a thought

 

[Beat]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Crawford has to leave.</div>
.......o....k wats the problem?

Anyway if Ariza works in his dribble (which he supposedly could handle like a guard) and his jump shot i think he could play sg at times but not full time.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">.......o....k wats the problem?</div>
We'll have a log jam at the swing man. We already do and another one will probably cause some frcition and chemistry problems.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyway if Ariza works in his dribble (which he supposedly could handle like a guard) and his jump shot i think he could play sg at times but not full time.</div>
Why can't he play fully?

 

[Beat]

I dont think he will be aggressive enough to score. But guess it depends on how he developes. Who knows he may develope into an elite Sg. Just look at t-mac.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont think he will be aggressive enough to score. But guess it depends on how he developes. Who knows he may develope into an elite Sg. Just look at t-mac.</div>
I think he can be aggresive enough. If he focusses on his game more, I think he can play the 2 and the 3 and maybe a little 1. Hopefully he develops into an elite kind of a player. He can rebound and pass too. I see him putting up some nice scoring numbers and some solid rebounds and assists numbers as well. I think he'll be different than T-Mac. They have different attitudes an styles of play, I just want him to be elite like him.

 

[Mr. J]

Very Interesting

Charlie Villanueva
[IMGl]http://www.draftcity.com/headshots/charlievillanueva.gif[/IMGl] Connecticut
6'11
230
20 years old
This guy is near 7 feet and he can play 3 positions. He can play the 3, 4 and 5 effectively. He probably can bring the ball up the floor sometimes and he can even develop some point guard skills with his handle. He has good vision too. He handles the rock on the break and can find you the open man. He is very athletic and has long arms which is a good thing for rebounding and blocking/changing shots. He is a good shot blocker and intimidator. The last time we had this was since Mt. Mutombo was well out of his prime. Still was good for us though without a doubt. Just a decent low post game doesn?t really look to post up as much as he should though. He has a good jump shot and can shoot well from the perimeter. You will have to respect his 18 footer and occasionally he could hit an NBA 3 here and there. Guess what? He works well with the pick and roll too. And to top it all off , he is another New Yorker! Come on, this guy looks like a solid fit.

The only weaknesses I could find about him is he is a bit nonchalant at times. I heard sometimes he overuses his talents meaning instead of boxing out and what not, he expects to grab the boards with his long arms and athleticism. He should be more aggressive too.

I?ve heard he can develop into Lamar Odom and Chris Webber. Hopefully we get the Webber. He looks decent enough however, many of the mock drafts have him as a low 1st rounders in the high 20?s. I wonder why? Is he good enough to use our first rounder on?

<font size="2"><font color="Red">If you're interested, the Connecticut Huskies play tommorow against Notre Dame at 7 Eastern Time on ESPN. Get a glimpse of him and see what you think!</font></font>

 

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Charlie Villainueva is definetely interesting. Definetely worth our first rounder. We need a versatile big man at the 5 spot. He's more of a powerforward but in this day and age of watered down centers I think he can play center. He should definetely have an edge since he's can put the ball on the floor and take it to the basket. He does rely too much on his athleticism but a few lessons with Agguire and he'll be fine. The only thing that worries me is that he looks lazy and disinterested at times.

I was thinking though...what about Tiago Splitter? I think that's his name. He's projected to go before Villainueva. He's Brazilian and supposed to have a great post up game. Best case scenario: Pau Gasol. But his jumper is lousy though. And I mean lousy. But I'm sure he could practice it and get good at it like Ewing did. He's also more of a powerforward than center but again he can get away with playing center. He needs to bulk up some but after he hits the weight room he should be fine.

Either way I'm praying for some luck and hoping we get Bogut. He's just about good at everything. Can post up, can pass, can shoot, can block shots and rebound. Imagining him and Sweetney working together in the low post is making me cry right now(seriously). It would be beautiful. Anyway we should get these one of these three guys I just mentioned and trade Kurt Thomas for a first round pick and Vladimir Veremoonk(something like that). He's a Russian powerforward who can shoot, sort of like Dirk. We can clear up some playing time for Sweetney and see if we can get a Dirk Nowitzki on our team to add some more versatility.

 

[Beat]

I'd rather get Charlie Villanueva. Lets trade Kurt Thomas and Jamal Crawford For Lamar Odom

 

[Mr. J]

I looked at splitter and I didn't post about him because again...power forward. I don't think he'll be a good fit on the team. He's more of a post up guy only. I want a nice shooting big man too.

What do you guys think of the Lithuanian, Martynas Andriuskevicius? Worth trying out? These guys have been projected pretty high as well as Nemanja. Hopefully these prospects are promising.

How about a Johan Petro? He is a 7 foot athletic freak that can rebound and block shots. He has NO offensive game though. He looks alright, but again, is he worth a potential 7th pick?

 

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I looked at splitter and I didn't post about him because again...power forward. I don't think he'll be a good fit on the team. He's more of a post up guy only. I want a nice shooting big man too.

What do you guys think of the Lithuanian, Martynas Andriuskevicius? Worth trying out? These guys have been projected pretty high as well as Nemanja. Hopefully these prospects are promising.

How about a Johan Petro? He is a 7 foot athletic freak that can rebound and block shots. He has NO offensive game though. He looks alright, but again, is he worth a potential 7th pick?</div>

I thought the same thing about Splitter but it cant hurt having another guy who can post up especially if he's a good rebounder and shot blocker also. Besides teams are starting to play their centers on Sweetney to limit his post up game having Splitter will stop them from doing that. Besides perhaps we'll be able to trade Splitter for someone we really want.

As for Nemanja...well he's 210 lbs...Is it possible for him to gain that 40 or 50 pounds we'll need him to gain to play for us. I mean we need someone who can play center. So I dont know how effective he can be for us but then again it's worth a try. Martynas looks alright although I would like it if he had a post up game. Petro would make a great back up but if he's useless on offense he's not the ideal starting center for us. The guys we should be focusing on are: Bogut, Splitter and Villainueva. We should be able to get one of these three guys. Bogut should of course top the list. How far is he going to drop realistically? With all the excitement about Chris Paul and the athleticism of Villainueva is it possible for him to fall to the 3rd spot?