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What did that have to do with anything I said? Moving his contract is not going to be a problem for us. If you’re saying the bonus of getting off Grant’s contract lies in obtaining Kuminga, zero picks, or even having to give them their pick back, again, not much I can accomplish getting into a debate with you lol.
"There are more than a couple people I’ve seen across various forums saying they would take Kuminga for Grant straight up". Kuminga is much younger and not on a crazy contract. So we'll probably get a better effort from him as he'd be playing for a contract. Jerami Grant is playing right now like he doesn't GOF.
 
"There are more than a couple people I’ve seen across various forums saying they would take Kuminga for Grant straight up".
You do realize that I implied that those people drive me crazy right? Kuminga, as it stands, doesn’t even guarantee he’ll be a better player than Grant. I’m not accepting that deal, and I’m certain Cronin will not accept it either, lucky for us. Trade the better player away, make their owed pick to us worse, sounds like a win for the dubs.

Talk to me when the ‘28 1st or the Hawks/dubs’ 2nds or Moody are in play as well with Kuminga. Kuminga alone + CP3 as a salary dump, give me a break.

Jerami Grant is playing right now like he doesn't GOF.
Yeah, we all know vets don’t give a fuck when they’re on a losing team. That doesn’t mean you trade the better player for less than he’s worth.
 
What in the world is wrong with the two of you? That exchange was supposed to lead to a flame war that would cause everyone to take sides on which of you is the bigger moron and end up with at least three people leaving the forum. But you two...want to act like adults and just let stuff go?

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Not to throw gas on the fire after it’s been put out but I would make an incredible GM, I’d make trader Bob look
What in the world is wrong with the two of you? That exchange was supposed to lead to a flame war that would cause everyone to take sides on which of you is the bigger moron and end up with at least three people leaving the forum. But you two...want to act like adults and just let stuff go?

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not to restoke the fire but I would make a hell of a GM. I’m thinking a mix of trader Bob but I also have a chemistry degreee
 
not sure if this changes any gauges on Grant's value or not, but a comparison to Simons:

* Simons is averaging 23.9 points on 19.0 shots; Grant is averaging 21.4 points on 16.0 shots

* if Grant averaged 19.0 FGA/game like Ant, he'd be outscoring Ant 25.4 vs 23.9
* if Ant averaged 16 FGA/game like Grant, the Grant would be outscoring Ant by 21.4 vs 20.2

there are more value gauges than scoring obviously. Ant has a higher PER, primarily because he's better at assists than Grant is at rebounds. But Grant has length and the versatility at wing that most teams would value. Neither player is good at defense, but Grant is probably a lot closer to average than Ant.
 
There will also be the bonus of getting out of Grant's contract. He's 29, doesn't fit the timeline, and now, he looks like he's checked out and only wants to score points and collect his check.

What did that have to do with anything I said? Moving his contract is not going to be a problem for us. If you’re saying the bonus of getting off Grant’s contract lies in obtaining Kuminga, zero picks, or even having to give them their pick back, again, not much I can accomplish getting into a debate with you lol.

There is a floor we must be above as well. We simply cant have all rookie contracts, which means we need to have some guys on the roster between 24-3o yrs old.
 
saw a proposal Grant to Atlanta for Bogdan, Okongwu and a 24 1st. I don't know anything about Okongwu? Those of you who follow other teams more, what is the thought on this one?
 
saw a proposal Grant to Atlanta for Bogdan, Okongwu and a 24 1st. I don't know anything about Okongwu? Those of you who follow other teams more, what is the thought on this one?

Okongwu would be a nice addition in talent and fit. I'm not sure he's worth his 15+M/year extension but maybe

would not want Bogdanovic. He's got a long term contract and Grant is a much better player

as for the draft pick, the Blazers already have 2 first's this draft, with one likely being in the 13-20 range. They don't need a 3rd pick that would also be in the 13-20 range. And it may be a weak draft

not really impressed with that trade
 
saw a proposal Grant to Atlanta for Bogdan, Okongwu and a 24 1st. I don't know anything about Okongwu? Those of you who follow other teams more, what is the thought on this one?
This is beyond a pipe dream for Portland. Grant doesn't have that much value.
 
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saw a proposal Grant to Atlanta for Bogdan, Okongwu and a 24 1st. I don't know anything about Okongwu? Those of you who follow other teams more, what is the thought on this one?
portland doesn't need any more 24 firsts—they need 25-27 firsts—even if protected.

for me, grant's value is two future protected firsts and filler or one unprotected first.

brogdon is one future protected first and filler.

if the contract is toxic then you can add additional sweetener.
 
There is a floor we must be above as well. We simply cant have all rookie contracts, which means we need to have some guys on the roster between 24-3o yrs old.

We'd still be slightly above the cap if we just dumped his salary outright. Why spend so much on the worst team in the league? You never know how a bad contract will hurt you down the road though. And Grant's value will decline as he ages.
 
You do realize that I implied that those people drive me crazy right? Kuminga, as it stands, doesn’t even guarantee he’ll be a better player than Grant. I’m not accepting that deal, and I’m certain Cronin will not accept it either, lucky for us. Trade the better player away, make their owed pick to us worse, sounds like a win for the dubs.

Talk to me when the ‘28 1st or the Hawks/dubs’ 2nds or Moody are in play as well with Kuminga. Kuminga alone + CP3 as a salary dump, give me a break.


Yeah, we all know vets don’t give a fuck when they’re on a losing team. That doesn’t mean you trade the better player for less than he’s worth.
Yes, that's why I pointed out there is a also a benefit in terms of salary. Maybe Grant will find new motivation on a winning team, but here, he's a lazy no defense, no rebounding chucker. If we can offload him for a prospect like Kuminga, it would be a coup. Maybe Kuminga won't amount to anything, but the same goes for any draft pick we acquire.
 
Yes, that's why I pointed out there is a also a benefit in terms of salary. Maybe Grant will find new motivation on a winning team, but here, he's a lazy no defense, no rebounding chucker. If we can offload him for a prospect like Kuminga, it would be a coup. Maybe Kuminga won't amount to anything, but the same goes for any draft pick we acquire.
I’d personally take a 1st and a flyer on a slightly worse prospect for Grant, or 2 protected 1sts for Grant, over Kuminga and nothing.

I put more faith into the draft process, and 1-2 1sts just means 1-2 more shots. My intrigue on Kuminga hasn’t changed much since he’s been drafted, but I also didn’t ever think Kuminga would be drafted that high. So for me, the bloom is already off that rose. It wouldn’t be a good coup.

But we’ll agree to disagree.
 
Okongwu would be a nice addition in talent and fit. I'm not sure he's worth his 15+M/year extension but maybe

would not want Bogdanovic. He's got a long term contract and Grant is a much better player

as for the draft pick, the Blazers already have 2 first's this draft, with one likely being in the 13-20 range. They don't need a 3rd pick that would also be in the 13-20 range. And it may be a weak draft

not really impressed with that trade
All things considered, this would be a decent trade for us. It actually falls apart because Okongwu would be the sticky point. Also, having a third 1st is fine. On draft night, they can trade down with any of them, they can trade out of any of them, they can find ways to turn one or more of those picks into future 1sts. The draft is just so far away and we don’t know where a lot of other teams’ situations will be at the end of the season.

But likely, they would think this is too much for Grant. Hawks fans have said as much on Reddit.
 
The Mavs want Grant, but the only trade target I see on their team is Lively, and I don't know how in love they are with him.
 
The Mavs want Grant, but the only trade target I see on their team is Lively, and I don't know how in love they are with him.
Would you trade Sharpe for John Collins?

That's the level of trade you are suggesting. There's no way in hell Dallas would send Lively out for Grant
 
The Mavs want Grant, but the only trade target I see on their team is Lively, and I don't know how in love they are with him.
They’re very in love with him. He’s actually multiple times better as a prospect than Kuminga would be on this team. I would give up Grant for Lively and filler, and it’s Dallas who would laugh in my face and hang up. With GS, Lacob might actually stuff his face between my legs and stare into my eyes while he does it if I offered Grant for Kuminga and filler.
 
Would you trade Sharpe for John Collins?

That's the level of trade you are suggesting. There's no way in hell Dallas would send Lively out for Grant

Sorry, I didn't know he was a hall of famer already, he's averaging 9 and 8. They don't really have anything else to offer, and they are the ones that are talking about wanting Grant.

And Collins was better than Grant 4-5 years ago, but I think Grant's stock is much higher around the league right now.
 
Sorry, I didn't know he was a hall of famer already, he's averaging 9 and 8. They don't really have anything else to offer, and they are the ones that are talking about wanting Grant.

And Collins was better than Grant 4-5 years ago, but I think Grant's stock is much higher around the league right now.
Neither Sharpe or Collins are HOFs either…lol.

Careful looking at just raw numbers. Doing stuff like that is going to make you think Kuminga is more valuable than Lively.
 
Okongwu would be a nice addition in talent and fit. I'm not sure he's worth his 15+M/year extension but maybe

would not want Bogdanovic. He's got a long term contract and Grant is a much better player

as for the draft pick, the Blazers already have 2 first's this draft, with one likely being in the 13-20 range. They don't need a 3rd pick that would also be in the 13-20 range. And it may be a weak draft

not really impressed with that trade
strong draft, weak draft, who gives a fuck

there are always players who turn out to be good, really good, great, but you need to pick the right ones

we need as much picks as possible and we need to hit on those picks
 
strong draft, weak draft, who gives a fuck

there are always players who turn out to be good, really good, great, but you need to pick the right ones

we need as much picks as possible and we need to hit on those picks
There are also always teams during a draft who like someone when your pick comes up and are willing to offer a future draft pick or picks for a first rounder right then and there.
 
I saw this one today: just a suggestion by a guy, not a rumor but I kind of like it.
Grant to the Mavs for
F Olivier Maxence-Prosper
C Richaun Holmes
F Maxi Kleber
2026 First-Round Pick (Top-6 Protected, Pending Obligation To NY),
2028 First-Round Pick Swap (Top-8 Protected)
Prosper is a SF rookie with fairly good weight and wingspan. Plays hard on defense.
 
I saw this one today: just a suggestion by a guy, not a rumor but I kind of like it.
Grant to the Mavs for
F Olivier Maxence-Prosper
C Richaun Holmes
F Maxi Kleber
2026 First-Round Pick (Top-6 Protected, Pending Obligation To NY),
2028 First-Round Pick Swap (Top-8 Protected)
Prosper is a SF rookie with fairly good weight and wingspan. Plays hard on defense.

Interesting. Drafted one spot after we took Murray.
 
I saw this one today: just a suggestion by a guy, not a rumor but I kind of like it.
Grant to the Mavs for
F Olivier Maxence-Prosper
C Richaun Holmes
F Maxi Kleber
2026 First-Round Pick (Top-6 Protected, Pending Obligation To NY),
2028 First-Round Pick Swap (Top-8 Protected)
Prosper is a SF rookie with fairly good weight and wingspan. Plays hard on defense.

I’ve really thought about OMax, and I’d personally love it, although he’s so raw that people who already are complaining about Chauncey and the offense are only getting more fuel to be annoying about it lol.

I don’t think the Mavs are going to want to give up any 1sts though. With 2 1sts, I think they’re going to want to go star hunting in a last effort to keep Luka around for as long as they can. As good as they’ve been, they’re the 7th seed and a bad stretch could push them into the play-in. Anything could happen in the playoffs, and they would even exit early. Any of these things happening just makes it harder to keep Luka if you blow your load on Grant. Don’t know if Grant is that player for them unless the deal is less than this.

Canadian guy, from Quebec.
 
I think it comes down to keeping Luka happy and going after who he wants.
 
I think it comes down to keeping Luka happy and going after who he wants.
maybe luka is new dirk, who will stay no matter what

will dallas fuck around & found out, well see
 
The Kings want Jerami Grant. Deal him and the GS 1st for Keegan Murray, and we can start both brothers together.

And we'd finally get Harrison Fucking Barnes, undoing the mistake of 2012.
 
The Kings want Jerami Grant. Deal him and the GS 1st for Keegan Murray, and we can start both brothers together.

And we'd finally get Harrison Fucking Barnes, undoing the mistake of 2012.
Lol, no thanks. I was fine with the Kris pick because he doesn’t look like he’ll be much worse than Keegan and he didn’t cost a top 20 pick. Overpaying for Keegan would just drive me crazy. Kings should overpay for Kris instead.
 

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