Zombie Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

[blazerkor]

Holy Fucking Hell, you like this why? That is filler crap, a very late 1st, and who knows what the Clipper pick will be, but that's 4 years down the road and the Clippers are now a "destination" like the Lakers and will not likely suck.

We could get better than that for Grant alone.

Bill Simmons recently said he thinks that Philly would pretty much throw everything they have at us to pick up both guys. That's expirings (Morris Sr., Batum, Covington and Kormaz all of whom we'd likely buyout) three FRPs (the least favorable between OKC, Houston and the Clippers in 2026, the Clippers unprotected in 2028, and the Sixers unprotected with the option to swap with the Clippers in 2029) and three swaps (Sixers 2026, 2028 and 2030).

That's likely a very late first in 2026, an unprotected 2028 first which like you said who knows where that would be so it's as valuable as any unprotected future first and the same can be said for the first in 2029 which would be unprotected and the higher pick between the Clippers and Sixers. The swaps get a little complicated because of what we owe the Bulls but potentially we at least get the most favorable pick between us, Philly and Milwaukee in 2030 and would definitely have swap rights at least in one other draft and if it's 2028 it would be the most favorable between the same three teams again.

I imagine there might be better deals out there that would be more exciting to me but I would love it if Philly put something like this on the table because that's a pretty strong offer to have in your back pocket when negotiating with other teams.

 

[BankTeller]

Holy Fucking Hell, you like this why? That is filler crap, a very late 1st, and who knows what the Clipper pick will be, but that's 4 years down the road and the Clippers are now a "destination" like the Lakers and will not likely suck.

We could get better than that for Grant alone.

I hope so, sometimes I’m skeptical.

Weren’t you the one who scoffed at me saying Grant could bring us value just a few weeks ago? My bad if you aren’t though.

 

[BankTeller]

Bill Simmons recently said he thinks that Philly would pretty much throw everything they have at us to pick up both guys. That's expirings (Morris Sr., Batum, Covington and Kormaz all of whom we'd likely buyout) three FRPs (the least favorable between OKC, Houston and the Clippers in 2026, the Clippers unprotected in 2028, and the Sixers unprotected with the option to swap with the Clippers in 2029) and three swaps (Sixers 2026, 2028 and 2030).

That's likely a very late first in 2026, an unprotected 2028 first which like you said who knows where that would be so it's as valuable as any unprotected future first and the same can be said for the first in 2029 which would be unprotected and the higher pick between the Clippers and Sixers. The swaps get a little complicated because of what we owe the Bulls but potentially we at least get the most favorable pick between us, Philly and Milwaukee in 2030 and would definitely have swap rights at least in one other draft and if it's 2028 it would be the most favorable between the same three teams again.

I imagine there might be better deals out there that would be more exciting to me but I would love it if Philly put something like this on the table because that's a pretty strong offer to have in your back pocket when negotiating with other teams.

Yup, I think that the idea that Philly would give up 3 1sts for those two guys will at least make an offer competitive. If anything, it drives up the price. It already seems like we are in disagreement about what we want anyway. I literally saw someone say Jarace Walker is the next iteration of Melo, DA, Kuminga on this forum.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Yup, I think that the idea that Philly would give up 3 1sts for those two guys will at least make an offer competitive. If anything, it drives up the price. It already seems like we are in disagreement about what we want anyway. I literally saw someone say Jarace Walker is the next iteration of Melo, DA, Kuminga on this forum.

I see Walker as a more skilled version of Draymond.

 

[BankTeller]

I see Walker as a more skilled version of Draymond.

Don’t remember who said it, but they were basically saying he is the next darling who is a flawed player that Blazers fans just seem head over heels about.

 

[beast blazer]

I hope so, sometimes I’m skeptical.

Weren’t you the one who scoffed at me saying Grant could bring us value just a few weeks ago? My bad if you aren’t though.

Not me, I think Grant is exactly the time of "3 and D" wing that teams covet.

If we traded Grant alone for that I'd be really disappointed. It's basically Grant for two late firsts.

 

[Natebishop3]

Not me, I think Grant is exactly the time of "3 and D" wing that teams covet.

If we traded Grant alone for that I'd be really disappointed. It's basically Grant for two late firsts.

I'm just not in any hurry at all to see Grant be traded. Brogdon is the logical one.

 

[riverman]

I'm just not in any hurry at all to see Grant be traded. Brogdon is the logical one.

I honestly think he's the best PF we've had since Aldridge

 

[Natebishop3]

I honestly think he's the best PF we've had since Aldridge

He is. By far. I get that he isn't part of our current window, but having someone like him really makes life easier for Simons and Scoot.

 

[Pinwheel1]

He is. By far. I get that he isn't part of our current window, but having someone like him really makes life easier for Simons and Scoot.

Sure you trade him for a top young PF, (i.e. Jarace Walker) but that seems like a long shot. We are better off drafting one this year and developing him behind Grant.

 

[Natebishop3]

Grant's contract really isn't even that bad. His per year value is 47th in the league. Tatum and Booker are due for massive contract extensions.

 

[KingSpeed]

He is. By far. I get that he isn't part of our current window, but having someone like him really makes life easier for Simons and Scoot.

I don’t know. Scoot has shown really good chemistry with Jabari. I don’t think he’d miss Grant.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don’t know. Scoot has shown really good chemistry with Jabari. I don’t think he’d miss Grant.

Jabari is not a reliable shooter. Grant opens up the paint with his shooting.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Don’t remember who said it, but they were basically saying he is the next darling who is a flawed player that Blazers fans just seem head over heels about.

I think highly of him and think he can be a great fit.

 

[BankTeller]

I think highly of him and think he can be a great fit.

You keep saying that. Never have I disagreed with you. You just keep replying to one of my posts saying the same thing.

Like, cool dude. LMAO. If I forget, I’ll remember to ask you how highly you think of him

 

[BankTeller]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...a-reset-teardown-or-rebuild-amid-trade-rumors

Siakam going the Dame route. Interesting.

Also forgot that Kuzma is also available this deadline. With the draft this summer not being great, I DO think the best trade package for Grant will be this deadline. Excited to see where things lead the next few weeks.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Grant's contract really isn't even that bad. His per year value is 47th in the league. Tatum and Booker are due for massive contract extensions.

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Why is CJ in that list twice?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Jabari is not a reliable shooter. Grant opens up the paint with his shooting.

Be nice if we had a Center who would do something with that space...

 

[beast blazer]

I honestly think he's the best PF we've had since Aldridge

Grant is actually better than the version of LA we had the last few years he was here, the (turn around fade away LA). If the dude could just rebound he'd be an all-star.

 

[wizenheimer]

I honestly think he's the best PF we've had since Aldridge

he's definitely the best forward.

Considering his rebound rates, calling him a power forward just seems wrong. Maurice Lucas has several seasons when he averaged 10+ rebounds. Buck Williams finished his career averaging 10 rebounds and if you subtract his last 3 seasons when he was over 35, he averaged 11 rebounds. Aldridge average 11 rebounds one season and 10 the next. Over 9 straight seasons, Karl Malone averaged 11 rebounds. And all of those guys had enough power to defend C's and defend them well. Josh Hart is more of a PF than Grant

 

[Sheldon Shape]

You keep saying that. Never have I disagreed with you. You just keep replying to one of my posts saying the same thing.

Like, cool dude. LMAO. If I forget, I’ll remember to ask you how highly you think of him

But I'm talking about Jarace Walker. I think he could be a really good fit. A rich man's Draymond is the hope. Have you heard of him? He should be a target for us.

 

[beast blazer]

he's definitely the best forward.

Considering his rebound rates, calling him a power forward just seems wrong. Maurice Lucas has several seasons when he averaged 10+ rebounds. Buck Williams finished his career averaging 10 rebounds and if you subtract his last 3 seasons when he was over 35, he averaged 11 rebounds. Aldridge average 11 rebounds one season and 10 the next. Over 9 straight seasons, Karl Malone averaged 11 rebounds. And all of those guys had enough power to defend C's and defend them well. Josh Hart is more of a PF than Grant

I think Grant should be playing SF. And heck, maybe Ayton should be our PF. We just need to add a legit PF or center and keep Grant.

If we had just drafted Grant, everybody would be saying how he's our star SF of the future, but because he's 29 they want to deal him. He probably has a lot of good prime years left.

 

[B-Roy]

Be nice if we had a Center who would do something with that space...

I unironically think there may be a chance Ayton becomes impactful if they tried making him a stretch big. If all he wants to do is shoot jumpshots, may as well have him shoot it behind the line. Would open up the floor for everyone else.

 

[riverman]

he's definitely the best forward.

Considering his rebound rates, calling him a power forward just seems wrong. Maurice Lucas has several seasons when he averaged 10+ rebounds. Buck Williams finished his career averaging 10 rebounds and if you subtract his last 3 seasons when he was over 35, he averaged 11 rebounds. Aldridge average 11 rebounds one season and 10 the next. Over 9 straight seasons, Karl Malone averaged 11 rebounds. And all of those guys had enough power to defend C's and defend them well. Josh Hart is more of a PF than Grant

Grant will never be a stellar rebounder but his rebounds have actually increased since Josh Hart left....Dame's increased as well. Josh Hart sure wasn't going to stretch the floor though ...Grant is more of a two way player than Hart and I love Hart's defense but he's more Wes Mathews than Buck Williams

 

[beast blazer]

I unironically think there may be a chance Ayton becomes impactful if they tried making him a stretch big. If all he wants to do is shoot jumpshots, may as well have him shoot it behind the line. Would open up the floor for everyone else.

Why not try it? Ayton might be a really good PF. It would solve our size/rebounding problems instantly.

The Timberwolves twin towers thing seems to be working for them this year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I unironically think there may be a chance Ayton becomes impactful if they tried making him a stretch big. If all he wants to do is shoot jumpshots, may as well have him shoot it behind the line. Would open up the floor for everyone else.

But Reath can already do that for a tiny fraction of the cost.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Grant will never be a stellar rebounder but his rebounds have actually increased since Josh Hart left...

Jesus, how shitty did they used to be? They're about right for a guard but he's supposed to be our POWER FORWARD.

Josh Hart sure wasn't going to stretch the floor though ...

 

[Natebishop3]

Jesus, how shitty did they used to be? They're about right for a guard but he's supposed to be our POWER FORWARD.
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To be fair, how good can his rebounding be when we have him posted up on the three point line OR out on the perimeter guarding one of the better ball handlers?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

To be fair, how good can his rebounding be when we have him posted up on the three point line OR out on the perimeter guarding one of the better ball handlers?

Granted Rodman's defense tanked when he became all about the rebounding, but the flipside is that you can't really put Grant on a big because he'll get bullied. And somehow KAT manages to shoot a ton of threes and still get rebounds, and KG managed to guard everybody and still get rebounds...

 

[HansenYang]

To be fair, how good can his rebounding be when we have him posted up on the three point line OR out on the perimeter guarding one of the better ball handlers?

Rebounding is about effort.
Hart was out on the perimeter just as much (if not more), and was significantly better rebounder.