Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

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Phatguysrule said:
It had nothing to do with Ant except he was in the way of Scoot and Sharpe. And it's turning out exactly as I said it would.

So great, Ant's gone. That doesn't fucking matter since Scoot and Sharpe have already lost seasons worth of development as lead guards.

Now we just have to hope they can get it right.

And yeah, if Grant keeps dominating the ball and killing the offense I'll be bitching about him as well. But at least he plays defense.

If Grant makes himself part of the offensive rather than trying to be the whole offense I'll have absolutely no problem with him.
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Blazers started Scoot day 1. It was a wreck. He was getting destroyed on both ends. He isn't like Luka/Trae/Edwards where he can come in day 1 as a rookie and contribute. He wasn't good at all like those guys.

It was much better to have Scoot play as a backup. Putting a young guy out as a starter and falling flat on his face could be way more damaging than having him be stuck a bit too long as a backup.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I call horseshit. It's not like they haven't had plenty of court minutes. You're young, you're insanely talented: carpe fucking diem.
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exactly, horseshit. This guy will take any info to come to the same conclusions every time so he can trot out the same tired rants

STOMP
 
As I’ve said, they need to trade Scoot/Sharpe if they have no roll in Portland, just as they did with JO. He was traded for their “win now” player, Dale Davis. Since Portland is going all in with Grant, Jrue and Lillard as the older vets and Tou/Deni as younger players, get more win now players and do it right. They have picked a new lane. Fucking go all in. It is ridiculous to bury these guys like they did with JO. Sure, they played some, but management and CB are going away from them. Realize some value out of them while they still can.
 
STOMP said:
exactly, horseshit. This guy will take any info to come to the same conclusions every time so he can trot out the same tired rants

STOMP
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And the fact that what is happening is exactly what I was saying I was worried about means nothing because you disagree with it.

It's cool.

I just hope they're able to bounce back from it.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Blazers started Scoot day 1. It was a wreck. He was getting destroyed on both ends. He isn't like Luka/Trae/Edwards where he can come in day 1 as a rookie and contribute. He wasn't good at all like those guys.

It was much better to have Scoot play as a backup. Putting a young guy out as a starter and falling flat on his face could be way more damaging than having him be stuck a bit too long as a backup.
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Sure, for a bit. But there are tons of guys you could have brought in to help take the pressure off.

Certainly don't play him behind Ant, who is also fucking up Sharpe's development.

Bring in a pass first point guard who plays defense.
 
WTF are some of you bitching about?

Scott and Sharpe with no confidence? What? Where?

Sharpe def has no confidence issues what are you guys smoking? He just had his best season, scored 18.5 PG, 4.5 REB, 2.8 AST, and put up monster stats towards the end of the season in stretches. All that for someone that just turned 22 with no college ball experience. Fuck you guys, or should I say a certain few, are always finding something dumb to bitch and complain about over and over.

Scoot played better last season too, but I think Scott got overwhelmed at times and was thinking too much out on the court. That happens with any young player and esp playing the PG position. It's not a confidence issue. Heck Scott hit a game winner last year for us.

Come on man, enough of this bs horseshit garbage again of posters finding little things to bitch about each week because they feel like stroking their ego with things like "just like I said would happen" when that's clearly false bs.
 
RR7 said:
What conversation is there to be had, honestly? You beat the dead horse. Over and over all year. Ants gone now. Shut the fuck up and move on. Sorry, it'll be Grant now. Looking forward to it!!!
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It's past dumb and annoying now. And none of the context is true, but hey it's the offseason so I guess some people must be really bored
 
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I think there is a discussion to be had about whether or not the team should have really cleared the runway for Scoot and Shaedon by this point in their careers and given them the metaphorical keys to the team. They definitely didn't do that while Ant was here and I can't see it being their team having traded Ant away for a guy who will likely end up in the hall of fame and then bringing back Dame who some could argue is the greatest Blazers player of all time.

I still think there is a very functional path to helping Scoot and Shaedon reach their potential on this team while playing with guys like Jrue and Jerami. At some point it might make sense to either go all in with our young guys by trading Jrue and Jerami but I think it could go really well for everyone on this roster as is. Just get out there, ball out, make it about defense first, share the ball on offense and see how it goes.
 
Thread-relevant comment. My conspiracy theory is that 90% of Joe's motivation in re-signing Dame is that the pressure would be off him about Jerami because he can just basically say "well I can't trade Dame's best buddy, can I?"
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Thread-relevant comment. My conspiracy theory is that 90% of Joe's motivation in re-signing Dame is that the pressure would be off him about Jerami because he can just basically say "well I can't trade Dame's best buddy, can I?"
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Why would Joe care about "pressure"?
 
blazerkor said:
I think there is a discussion to be had about whether or not the team should have really cleared the runway for Scoot and Shaedon by this point in their careers and given them the metaphorical keys to the team. They definitely didn't do that while Ant was here and I can't see it being their team having traded Ant away for a guy who will likely end up in the hall of fame and then bringing back Dame who some could argue is the greatest Blazers player of all time.

I still think there is a very functional path to helping Scoot and Shaedon reach their potential on this team while playing with guys like Jrue and Jerami. At some point it might make sense to either go all in with our young guys by trading Jrue and Jerami but I think it could go really well for everyone on this roster as is. Just get out there, ball out, make it about defense first, share the ball on offense and see how it goes.
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my current thought is that the blazers are not clearing paths for them, they want them to fight through it, and they will extend both of them, and they'll deal with the cap fallout, or trading them, later (like they did with tisse and jerami).
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Thread-relevant comment. My conspiracy theory is that 90% of Joe's motivation in re-signing Dame is that the pressure would be off him about Jerami because he can just basically say "well I can't trade Dame's best buddy, can I?"
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I don't think signing Dame had anything to do with Grant. However, I do think it could help
Grant buy-in to how Chauncey wants to use him.

His exit interview seemed to indicate he wanted out because of it. However, moving him to another team does not look promising.
But he is still a talented player, so if we can't trade him, he needs to accept his role. Maybe Dame can help with that.
 
Maybe the Blazers and Heat are finally past the bad blood from two years ago?

A deal like this might make sense if the Heat think they can contend in that laughably weak eastern conference.

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Maybe Detroit wants to move on from Harris - supposedly they thought well of Grant when he was on the team previously;

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Kings are still just below the luxury tax even taking on the extra cost of Grant deal;
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Might need to wait until Dec15 until a $2 mil salary can be thrown in to get this to balance;

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Basically all those trades save the Blazers significant salary in year 2-3. Maybe those trade partners could become desperate enough to consider Grant an upgrade.
 
I still have this feeling that Joe is going to finally fulfil his promise to Dame and make an all-in trade. (If Dame actually looks like Dame in a year)

And I think Jerami stays on the team.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
I still have this feeling that Joe is going to finally fulfil his promise to Dame and make an all-in trade. (If Dame actually looks like Dame in a year)

And I think Jerami stays on the team.
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Only type of all-in trade I can see that might make us a contender is giving the Bucks all their picks, a couple other picks, maybe one of Scoot/Sharpe for Giannis.

Other than that we probably need multiple moves. Maybe a part of it could be acquiring a Bridges/Siakam/etc type. But we probably also need some of our youth to take a big step forward. Then as you say Dame also needs to come close to being fully recovered.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Only type of all-in trade I can see that might make us a contender is giving the Bucks all their picks, a couple other picks, maybe one of Scoot/Sharpe for Giannis.

Other than that we probably need multiple moves. Maybe a part of it could be acquiring a Bridges/Siakam/etc type. But we probably also need some of our youth to take a big step forward. Then as you say Dame also needs to come close to being fully recovered.
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Pairing Dame and Giannis again just seems so...... pointless. They didn't mesh at all.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Pairing Dame and Giannis again just seems so...... pointless. They didn't mesh at all.
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Dame had an interview a few days ago where he was super happy with the performance of him and Giannis - just points out that they never were healthy in the playoffs. Reading between the lines they also didnt have the needed role players that it looks like we may be able to have here.

I just struggle to identify a "all in" type player that would make sense. None of the guards make sense with Dame. There are almost no dominant centers and certainly none expected to be available soon. Sabonis/KAT are too bad defensively to make sense with Dame. Maybe a Siakam type or Mikal Bridges type of wing would be the "all in" type move.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Dame had an interview a few days ago where he was super happy with the performance of him and Giannis - just points out that they never were healthy in the playoffs. Reading between the lines they also didnt have the needed role players that it looks like we may be able to have here.

I just struggle to identify a "all in" type player that would make sense. None of the guards make sense with Dame. There are almost no dominant centers and certainly none expected to be available soon. Sabonis/KAT are too bad defensively to make sense with Dame. Maybe a Siakam type or Mikal Bridges type of wing would be the "all in" type move.
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I wonder if Embiid could be one option. He's just so unhealthy.

The guy I would LOVE to get is Jokic but they did a really good job of rebuilding this summer.
 
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