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NYR_94 said:
Who knows how it will play out and what Igor will ask for, but I agree with Brooks:

The Post has been told that Shesterkin’s camp is aiming for a contract under which the goaltender would start with 14 percent of the cap, which would equate to a netminding record of $12.9M under an expected $92M cap for 2025-26.

The cap hit would remain at $12.9M through the contract while the percentage would decline as the cap is expected to increase. But that number seems untenable on a deal that would likely be seven or eight years and take Shesterkin — who has had two very uneven regular seasons following his 2021-22 Vezina — to age 36 or 37.

In fact, I’d suggest it would be untenable for the Rangers, GM Chris Drury and the hierarchy to enter the season with Shesterkin as a pending free agent. This is something that needs to get done before the season. If the goaltender’s camp is not amenable to that, the Rangers will have to investigate trade opportunities.

They cannot — cannot — allow Shesterkin to walk out the door as a free agent on July 1, 2026, while getting nothing in return. This needs to be the summer of decision.

There is 2024-25 to worry about. That is the focus. But the clock on Shesterkin is kind of starting to tick now.
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Like I said, for that much money trade him. That’s WAY too much for a goalie when we’ve seen in years past teams can win with an above average goalie, and they don’t require an all world goalie. We had an all time great with Hank and won nothing. Cannot sink that much money into a goalie and expect to win a cup.
 
Rangers94 said:
Like I said, for that much money trade him. That’s WAY too much for a goalie when we’ve seen in years past teams can win with an above average goalie, and they don’t require an all world goalie. We had an all time great with Hank and won nothing. Cannot sink that much money into a goalie and expect to win a cup.
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Sadly, I agree. I wouldn't give Igor more than 10-11 million, and even $11M is pushing it, I would want his cap hit to be in the 10's or lower. If he is looking to break the bank then I think Drury has to say we love you Igor, thanks for everything, but we have to trade you. I don't think you build a complete team with a goalie making 11+ million, and even 10+ million is pushing the limits.
 
Sounds like Trouba may be pushing back, or unsure of accepting a trade to Detroit. With a 15 team NTC, he could put Detroit on the list, and be strategic with it and add teams he thinks may be interested in trading for him.

Who knows what the truth really is, but it is interesting to me if you want to stay with a team that is trying to trade you unless you stop it with your NT list. Totally his prerogative of course, and I agree if it is going to a team or location you hate, but he was born in Michigan, so you would think Detroit would be a good spot for him. Maybe not though, and family/his wife has him tied to NY. Then the Rangers could try and trade him to a team not on his list, or waive him and see if Detroit, or another team, would claim him. Drury could play hard ball. It could turn out to be a test of Drury and how he handles it, is he up to it. This could get very interesting.
 
Trade Igor for a haul. There are too many holes on this team to fix to pay him anything over 10 mill.
 
Tampa is nuts. If I was Guentzal no freakin way I sign with Tampa. That team is on a steep decline.
 
Trading Igor is beyond fucking retarded. There isn't that many holes. Help is on the way soon from the farm.
 
I agree on TB. Adding a player of Guentzel's talent is nice, but they are losing Stamkos (who scored 40 goals this past season) and lost Sergachev (replaced by McDonagh). Overall, I don't see how they really improve much. I would guess they'd add more, but a top-heavy team just became even more top heavy and for longer term. At best TB is neutral to me depending on what else they do, and after Guentzel they'll have maybe 7 or 8 mill left to fill 3 or 4 spots, so I cannot see another big player added.

For us, I am happy Guentzel is going to TB, I rather have him there than in Carolina, and given he should get 8 or 9 million per for 7 years (with some sort of no movement clause), I am happy he is not coming to the Rangers either.

Answer this on Igor, if he wants $12M +/- do you give it to him (and the Brooks article said a ridiculous $12.9M)? That's the question, not simply do you trade him. If he wants more than $10.5M +/- I trade him. I don't want any number above $10.6M tops which would allow Igor to set the new high AAV number for a goalie. If he wants more, I almost think you have to trade him. This is about his financial ask and cap hit, not his on-ice performance.
 
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Guentzel 491 points in 520 regular season games, 67 points in 69 playoff games and only 29, smart move by Tampa locking up one of the top FAs early. The Rangers have 3-4 prospects making $850k per that will be on next year's roster, no need for penny pinching with the window of opportunity open and $12.8 mil cap space.
 
Some pretty big name former prospects non-tendered today, including Nils Lundkvist.
 
Messiah717 said:
On top of that trading him would create a massive hole.
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Totally agree, but the question still stands, if Igor wants $11M +, let alone $12M +, do you do it for 7 or 8 years? That is really the question, not do you trade Igor.

0.000000000% of people think the Rangers should trade Igor if his salary demands are reasonable, think in the low to mid 10's, but if they are not do you re-sign him for $11M + per?
 
Like Lundquist, he probably will be at a high level until almost 40, but 12m is quite a bit, even with the cap steadily going up. I have a feeling it ends up at $11.5m per for 8-9y.
 
8 years is the max a contract can be signed for if you stay with your current team (7 years if you are leaving your current team). $11.5M is a whole lot of money for a goalie. I wouldn't go a penny more than $11M flat, which is 12% of the potential $92M cap in 2025/2026 - I said in the 10's, but if symbolically Igor wanted to hit $11M I wouldn't bail because of 100 K. I would try my best to keep it at $10.6M to allow Igor to set the new AAV record for goalies if that matters to him.
 
This should make some folks happy, take Kane off the list as he re-signed with the Wings on a one-year deal for $4M. I am not surprised he stayed in Detroit; I am surprised he stayed for only a one-year deal and for a reasonable amount. I would have guessed if the Wings only offered a one-year deal he would have preferred NY in that situation.

With Guentzel and Kane off the board, guys like Toffoli, Marchessault, DeBrusk, Reinhart, Stamkos, and my favorite Bertuzzi may be the targets. Stamkos is a name I'd watch, that seems like a Rangers type move.
 
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“As I said on our draft broadcast, the Jacob Trouba stuff is real,” Kaplan posted via X. “Believe family considerations are huge - and that could be hold up with potential Red Wings trade.

“We’ll see what transpires over next few hours before his trade protection kicks in, but his future with NYR is in limbo.”
 
No surprise, the Lightning signed Guentzel, not sure for how much yet, have to figure 7 or 8 years for somewhere between 8-9 million per.

Today is the moment of truth for Mr. Drury. Will Trouba go, will Kakko go, who will he sign to play with Kreider and Zibanejad, if Trouba goes who do they sign on D to replace him (Roy, Dillon, and Zadorov are some of the handful of names I saw mentioned). The man is on the clock, is he up to the task, we'll see.
 
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A terrible move by him the Lightning are on the decline big time.
 
Moving Kakko and Chytil frees up another $7 mil in cap space to get a RW. Any replacement for Trouba will be a downgrade on an already suspect defensive unit. The main issue this postseason was lack of offense, Drury can address this and get rid of two pieces of roster deadwood. We've waited years for these two to emerge and Chytil's promise is overshadowed by his head injuries, Kakko is a hump. I'm glad Kane is off the board.
 
I don’t agree at all that losing Trouba will be a downgrade to the defense. Schneider can play on the second pairing where he belongs. Third pairing defenseman should be physical, steady defenseman, who don’t turn the fucking puck over in more limited minutes and can play on the PK unit.
 
Carrick is a whatever guy. Scored double digit goals twice (11 max), misses a lot of games, and is okay on faceoffs - 51% with Anaheim this past season, 49.4, and 49.3 the two prior seasons (he was a very good 63.1% in 16 games after he was traded to the Oilers last season - 53.3% in 10 playoff games with the Oilers).

To me very underwhelming. A 4th line C for only $1M so not going to go crazy, but he is at best a little better version of Bonino as I see it, barely played for the Oilers in the playoffs for a reason I would say.

Trouba is going to be a 3rd pair dman making $8M, that does not work. Similar to Goodrow, not worth the money for the role he will play. He will need to be replaced with someone big and physical though I think, which after you factor in retained money may be close to spending $8M anyway, but at least the player themself won't be as costly (maybe $5M per +/- if I had to guess).

We also need to see a Trouba trade actually happen, seems like a foregone conclusion considering everything is out in the open now making it not ideal for Trouba to stay a Ranger, but a trade still has to officially happen.
 
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Completely useless, unless it's for the AHL team. You can't contend for a cup with that guy on your big club. These idiotic, scrub signings are what Drury has done for years that chip away at the cap space. WTF is he doing giving this dipshit 3 years?
 
Guess his contract is structured so they can bury him the minors. Still pointless to me.
 
Yeah, can bury full amount in minors with no cap implications, but I agree doesn't really add much insurance even. A total whatever move without a big impact, so again not going to make a big thing out of it.
 
Just saw official numbers on Guentzel, 7 years $63M, so a cap hit of $9M per. Also, first four seasons full NMC, and the final three seasons a 10 team NTC.

Happy we were not involved in that.
 
kreidertime said:
Completely useless, unless it's for the AHL team. You can't contend for a cup with that guy on your big club. These idiotic, scrub signings are what Drury has done for years that chip away at the cap space. WTF is he doing giving this dipshit 3 years?
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Drury looking like he’s Cashman right now. Lots of hype going into the offseason and trade deadline, but bringing back nothing but dumpster fires. Very early yet, but the signs all point to running it back with a worse squad than this past year.
 
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