The problem is in 5 days who’s left to sign besides more role players who will command even more money since the laws of supply and demand will be in their favor.
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On Nashville, they signed Stamkos for four years $8M cap hit, that is more than I would have wanted to spend, so I am okay with passing on that. They also signed Marchessault for five years at $5.5M per, that is something I could have seen us being in on. But as Grey said, let's stay patient and see if Drury does anything. The options are drying up very quickly though.
And still no clue what is going on with Trouba thanks to the in over his head Drury.
And still no clue what is going on with Trouba thanks to the in over his head Drury.
That’s why 5 days doesn’t work lol. Anyone worth a damn will be gone and we will be trading back for Goodrow, looking for Tyler Motte again and resigning Roslovic and Wennberg. Drury is in over his head. We all suspected it when he got the position. Many of us were up in arms at the trade deadline but were willing to give him the offseason. Now we have seen enough. He’s Brian Cashman. All hype, no substance.
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Not going to lie, if that Marchessault / Nashville deal is accurate that is a huge miss for Drury...HUGE.
Big time pass on Stamkos at 8M. That’s a massive overpay for him. But to not get Marchessault for 5.5 is laughable. But I guess he only wants money and not to win…despite going to a team that is going all in to win.
Agreed, I just said the same thing. I think March and Bertuzzi were both big misses by Drury, I cannot get on him for Stamkos with that contract.
IN OVER HIS HEAD!!!
There has to be something going on here behind the scenes. This team was a legit Cup contender last year. We have cap space and could match some of these offers (and no, some of them wouldn’t touch like the Stamkos or Guentzel ones). For us to walk away empty handed right now with all these signings happening speaks to something about this team/franchise. Either free agents don’t want to come play with these players, or they don’t want to play for this franchise. This is pure insanity if Marchessault really signed for 5.5 and we didn’t offer him that.
Plus, why is Trouba still here? Bad GM, that’s why. He leaked to the media about trading Trouba to Detroit and got played by Stevie Y and now we are left holding our dick in our hand with a third pair dman making $8M who will half ass it and force us to either eat the contract and fuck ourselves or make us trade him for pennies on the dollar.
Plus, why is Trouba still here? Bad GM, that’s why. He leaked to the media about trading Trouba to Detroit and got played by Stevie Y and now we are left holding our dick in our hand with a third pair dman making $8M who will half ass it and force us to either eat the contract and fuck ourselves or make us trade him for pennies on the dollar.
We also drafted a guy who will be good, hopefully, in 3-5 years. Wooo!!!!!! Can’t wait to be paying a 35 year old goalie $12M to goaltend a rebuilding team that can’t rebuild because of THAT contract (and we ALL know Drury’s dumbass will give a NMC too).Don't forget we did sign Carrick though, so all is well....
Guess little dumpy has to go back to waxing floors.
DeBrusk gone for $5.5M to Vancouver and Zadorov gone for $5M to Boston. And Drury does NOTHING as player after player goes, and some for very reasonable deals.
And normally I'd agree they are working on something behind the scenes, but Drury is so awful I wouldn't count on it. And Trouba still here in limbo and now hates Drury and the Rangers, good stuff as that lingers and maybe prevents us from signing players.
And normally I'd agree they are working on something behind the scenes, but Drury is so awful I wouldn't count on it. And Trouba still here in limbo and now hates Drury and the Rangers, good stuff as that lingers and maybe prevents us from signing players.
The Trouba thing alone is a fire able offense. We have a defenseman now making $8M that doesn’t want to be here but doesn’t want to go away either. He’s going to make it as uncomfortable and weird as possible. Trouba’s cap hit could be preventing us from making some signings because of the money, but the supposed ugliness with it (and possibly even the Goodrow shit) could make FA not want to come here as they see Drury as an incompetent leader.
Drury made this a huge mess, or someone in the NYR camp did, by leaking shit to the media and then Trouba doing what he did made it untenable. We didn’t even have Trouba’s list yet and Drury/NYR camp were already talking about him being gone. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Shit man. Drury is a massive joke, yet we were told and have been told that we can’t have Messier anywhere in this front office because he doesn’t know what to do.
Dillon to NJ for a very reasonable three-year deal at $4M per, would have been a perfect Trouba replacement, but Mr. OVER HIS HEAD couldn't get that done. Devs also signed Pesce for six years at $5.5M. At least they are alive.
And oh BTW, he is also the Captain of the team, which makes it worse. Trouba in limbo I am sure impacted our ability to sign players, again I think Dillon would have been a perfect fit for him, and he went for only $4M per to NJ, good deal for them.
Devils are better than us as of right now pending how Hughes comes back from surgery. That’s A LOT of years for Pesce, but for the first 2-3 it’s a good signing. Once again though, you have to sometimes sacrifice the end of a contract for the here and now to win. Worry about years 5 & 6 when they arrive if it means you are a contender in years 1-4.
Agreed on Pesce, for us he was not a fit at all. Dillon though would have been an excellent fit for us if we moved Trouba. Just read the Wings deal has cooled, how funny would it be if Trouba had to stay now, what a total F up by the way in over his head Pres and GM Mr. Drury.
And the Devs are better than us right now, hard to argue. They added a good goalie and two good dmen. We have added Carrick.
With cap going up, his hit wouldn’t be as bad. But if we give Igor 12M+ then us signing no one makes sense as we can’t afford anyone. Going to be a shitty 5-10 years upcoming as Drury continues to flub around like a fish out of water and sets the franchise back. Going to have to send out another “sorry we are clueless morons but we are going to rebuild the team now and trade away stars to try and reset” letter within 3-5.
Detroit doesn’t want him at all anymore. Not after he just threw this temper tantrum about going back there. We are now stuck with an $8M third pairing dman who will be stripped of the C and be acting like a petulant child all season long forcing us to buy him out or trade him for nothing in return while eating a big chunk of his salary.
That is an absolute disaster F up by Drury, I don't see how it is possible to spin it any other way. Just read Trouba has hurt feelings towards the Rangers, of course he does. What an absolute disaster Drury is.
Duchene stays with Dallas only one year for $3M. Drury can't get in on that one...
Duchene stays with Dallas only one year for $3M. Drury can't get in on that one...
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These teams are all pathetically overpaying for guys that are not different makers. That’s usually something we do. Play the kids and wait until the deadline comes and like I said they’ll be eight teams at the deadline dumping players for 50% of their salary.
That was the issue with the Hank years. He occupied a lot of salary and it meant we had to rely on one superstar trying to carry the team and a lot of role players playing above their pay grade and talent to make it work. Hank was so good that he carried this team single handedly to the Cup finals and ECF. Had he taken less maybe we could’ve built a better team around him and he wins a Cup or two, but who knows.
I get this from both perspectives. As a player you see these owners making tons of money so why should you give them a break with your salary. They should pay you top dollar!!! But on the other hand, if you want to win you have to make sacrifices, and usually financial ones. NHL needs to figure out an NBA type of structure where you can resign and retain your players while it not counting as heavily against the cap or something.
There is pretty much no one of any real impact left. I almost have no words for what Drury has done to this team. Sits on his a** and adds crap at the trade DL, moves Goodrow's money, F'd up moving Trouba's money, and has done nothing of consequence in free agency. Why move Goodrow if you weren't going to use his money, should have just kept him. This is like the trade DL when we had cap space and didn't use it all over again.
Nashville will be leading the way out west. Chicago has an amazing rookie they are building a team around. NJ has the Hughes brothers who they are building around. All proven young talent. The young talent we have? Laf (who hopefully builds on this year and becomes great), Kakko and Chytil. Can’t build around those last two.
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I’m all for giving Mancini a chance to make the roster at camp as a right defenseman. What the Rangers need to do is take this year and develop as many young players as they can. It may be painful for a douchebag fans that never saw a Stanley Cup that they can remember, but it’s the right move. The salaries are completely insane and the Rangers have three key people they need to sign.
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Nashville fucking sucks. You’re clueless if you think they’re gonna do anything.
This make no sense at all.
1. You complain EVERY SINGLE SEASON about trading for players at the trade DL and the cost and trading picks, now you are fake advocating for it.
2. The players signed now for multi-year deals will NOT be dealt at the trade DL this year. Maybe way down the road, but not now.
I am 100000000% convinced, as I always am, you don't give two sh*ts about winning.
Loser leaves board forever. Bet. Put your mommy’s money where your mouth is. Outside of injuries Nashville will be going to the WCF as currently constructed.
