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Tunchi said:
Meyers is a scrub. Thank god we didn't pay him. He'll be gone next season at this rate, and good riddance
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It's probably too soon for them to pull the plug on this experiment by trading him at the deadline, right?
 
BigGameDamian said:
Trade for a guy with knee issues. Never had that problem here. Good plan.
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He doesnt have knee issues...

The swapping of 1sts would need to be including. That gives us a better chance at landing Ben Simmons. And if Embiid is actually 7'2 and can get healthy we have 3 young all stars just like that. That's a really high reward. At worse we get Brandon Ingram at 4 and Embiid never plays, but even then Ingram is as likely to become an all star as CJ, so IMO that's low risk. A low risk, high reward deal.
 
BonesJones said:
He doesnt have knee issues...

The swapping of 1sts would need to be including. That gives us a better chance at landing Ben Simmons. And if Embiid is actually 7'2 and can get healthy we have 3 young all stars just like that. That's a really high reward. At worse we get Brandon Ingram at 4 and Embiid never plays, but even then Ingram is as likely to become an all star as CJ, so IMO that's low risk. A low risk, high reward deal.
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Then you ask, why would Philly, a team actively tanking, try to do a trade that makes them better? I'm sure they want the best chance to get Ben Simmons... it's clear.
 
Strenuus said:
Then you ask, why would Philly, a team actively tanking, try to do a trade that makes them better? I'm sure they want the best chance to get Ben Simmons... it's clear.
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Why does Philly do half the things they do? To stay awful. Maybe they view McCollum as an allstar level player.. That still wouldn't elevate them enough where they could still tank. CJ, Crabbe, Okafor, Noel, Murray (swapped down), plus a top 3 pick next year is a great core. If we throw in a future pick or two they may take the bait. Who knows
 
BonesJones said:
Why does Philly do half the things they do? To stay awful. Maybe they view McCollum as an allstar level player.. That still wouldn't elevate them enough where they could still tank. CJ, Crabbe, Okafor, Noel, Murray (swapped down), plus a top 3 pick next year is a great core. If we throw in a future pick or two they may take the bait. Who knows
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No way Philly trades a shot at landing a franchise player for anything other then a franchise player. Its what they have been tanking for for the last 3 years but they have missed out on the ping pong balls that would land them their star. If Philly doesn't land a franchise player in the draft then their entire philosophy is pretty much fucked.
 
Rhal said:
No way Philly trades a shot at landing a franchise player for anything other then a franchise player. Its what they have been tanking for for the last 3 years but they have missed out on the ping pong balls that would land them their star. If Philly doesn't land a franchise player in the draft then their entire philosophy is pretty much fucked.
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How's that working out for them?
 
A slow-it-up center like Jahlil is not going to fit the SSOL system.

Without the right pieces MDA is going to fail miserably like he did in LA and NY. Those teams best players? Carmelo and Kobe, heavily ISO'd players.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
A slow-it-up center like Jahlil is not going to fit the SSOL system.

Without the right pieces MDA is going to fail miserably like he did in LA and NY. Those teams best players? Carmelo and Kobe, heavily ISO'd players.
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CJ would be awesome in that system.
 
Rhal said:
About as well as its working out for the Kings except the Kings aren't trying to be bad.
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I'd rather be mediocre and stay mediocre than be awful and stay awful
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Sure.

He looks like Meyers without the muscles but with the coordination and basketball IQ.
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I wouldn't trade Meyers for Olynyk even though I like Olynyk very much.
I think Meyers still has ways to go but if he improves his understanding on defense could be a great player. He already is, or has the potential to be, one of the best offensive bigs.
Olynyk has amazing basketball IQ, especially on defense. He's not very athletic or strong for a big but his awareness on the defensive end simply makes the entire Celtic defense work better when he's on the court.
Ideally, Meyers could develop Olynyk's defensive instincts
 
Blazer4ever said:
I wouldn't trade Meyers for Olynyk even though I like Olynyk very much.
I think Meyers still has ways to go but if he improves his understanding on defense could be a great player. He already is, or has the potential to be, one of the best offensive bigs.
Olynyk has amazing basketball IQ, especially on defense. He's not very athletic or strong for a big but his awareness on the defensive end simply makes the entire Celtic defense work better when he's on the court.
Ideally, Meyers could develop Olynyk's defensive instincts
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I agree with this. Add in that Olynyk is a very skilled big but he is slow and lacks laterall movement, that puts a damper on his ceiling if you want to play a fast paced offense that Stotts seems to want to run.
Leonard has all the physical tools to be a very good stretch big and should be able to use his athletism on D much better. Iv liked the recent development of Leonard minus the last handful of games and still have faith he has a big leep left in him to make this year. Id like to see where Leonard is at the end of the year, iv got faith he can make a leep but if he cant let someone overpay him for his potential this summer.
 
BonesJones said:
exactly...
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Yeah, but I think CJ has more value than Embiid right now. The guy hasn't played since college, which was nearly 2 years ago. His numbers in college weren't THAT great either. CJ's value is at an all-time high right now. I would want Okafor, not Embiid.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah, but I think CJ has more value than Embiid right now. The guy hasn't played since college, which was nearly 2 years ago. His numbers in college weren't THAT great either. CJ's value is at an all-time high right now. I would want Okafor, not Embiid.
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That's where we request the right to swap draft picks. Embiid has more potential than Okafor, even though he's a higher risk. But if we can get the right to swap picks, then we take it (even if we have to give up filler and extra firsts in the process).
 
Embiid was a monster prospect in college. But foot injuries scare me.

Buuuut, given how badly we need high level prospects, I'd give up Meyers for Embiid in an instant. Medium risk with losing Leonard, but massive reward possible if Embiid gets healthy.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Embiid was a monster prospect in college. But foot injuries scare me.

Buuuut, given how badly we need high level prospects, I'd give up Meyers for Embiid in an instant. Medium risk with losing Leonard, but massive reward possible if Embiid gets healthy.
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I wish it was as easy as just giving up Meyers.
 
Who was the last guy to be snake bitten by injuries early in his career and then turn it around completely and get healthy?

Curry? Griffin? CJ (knock on wood)?

So many guys who did NOT turn it around though. GO, Rose, KD and Kyrie getting there unfortunately.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I wish it was as easy as just giving up Meyers.
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For Embiid? You think so? He hasn't even played a game yet in two seasons and will still be considered a rookie next year.

Unfortunately, Philly does not even have any albatross contracts we can offer to take on as incentive to give him up.
 
Blazer4ever said:
I wouldn't trade Meyers for Olynyk even though I like Olynyk very much.
I think Meyers still has ways to go but if he improves his understanding on defense could be a great player. He already is, or has the potential to be, one of the best offensive bigs.
Olynyk has amazing basketball IQ, especially on defense. He's not very athletic or strong for a big but his awareness on the defensive end simply makes the entire Celtic defense work better when he's on the court.
Ideally, Meyers could develop Olynyk's defensive instincts
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But Olynyk has the credentials of taking Kevin Love out of the playoffs....that was a smooth move
 
Rice just tweeted that we can trade newly acquired players and FAs beginning tomorrow.

Ooh.

Start packin those bags, Gerald.
 
I do not think CJ is going anywhere.

Would like to see Henderson moved and Harkless to get more minutes.
 
Ain't nobody need Hendo....at least for now. Realistically you can hope for a 2nd, or he'll be filler in a larger deal.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Rice just tweeted that we can trade newly acquired players and FAs beginning tomorrow.

Ooh.

Start packin those bags, Gerald.
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Pretty sure we could have traded him at any point since acquiring him (other than to CHA). But now we can trade Aminu/Davis.
 
blue9 said:
Pretty sure we could have traded him at any point since acquiring him (other than to CHA). But now we can trade Aminu/Davis.
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But maybe there's another team's FA signing for whom Hendo could be dealt tomorrow...?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
But maybe there's another team's FA signing for whom Hendo could be dealt tomorrow...?
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Haha! I'm sure Nic could have gotten us that hypothetical player PLUS something else. Nic's value far exceeds Henderson's value (or Vonleh's value, or their combined value).
 
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