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Fez Hammersticks

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Between now and February will be the most interesting time this season.

Until the draft.

We are rebuilding. Embrace it.

I believe everyone on this roster is available outside Lillard.

Neil will cash in on the expiring deals of Henderson/Kaman. A playoff team will certainly look at Henderson.
 
If Henderson continues to have nights like he did tonight against Dallas ...
 
I posed a similar question to HolyBackboard to bring up on his podcast. "Who on this team has staying power?" I think we learn a bit more each week, and right now I'm not sure Dame is the only one we plan on keeping around long term. Plumlee might not be the vision for our starting Center on a championship contender, but I think he's definitely worth keeping around. Likewise I'm not too sure the team is going to trade CJ unless there is an offer we can't refuse. I think our core players whom we will probably see on the roster next season are Dame, Meyers, CJ, Plumlee, Aminu (essentially our starting 5). I think the management likes these guys going forward, maybe not always as starters, but I definitely think those 5 will hang around for the rebuild.
 
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I think we need scoring off the bench and ESPECIALLY in the frontcourt.

Kelly Olynyk has fallen out of favor it seems - inconsistent role. Minutes (17mpg) are being eaten by Sullinger and Zeller.

Capable scorer, 24 years old and a career 35% from three.

In Portland he'd get the minutes backing up Plumlee and Leonard.
 
I think we need scoring off the bench and ESPECIALLY in the frontcourt.

Kelly Olynyk has fallen out of favor it seems - inconsistent role. Minutes (17mpg) are being eaten by Sullinger and Zeller.

Capable scorer, 24 years old and a career 35% from three.

In Portland he'd get the minutes backing up Plumlee and Leonard.

Our backup PF and C scored 43 points tonight. What more could you want?
 
We need draft picks.

If a top 20 player in his 20s becomes available, then consolidate some of our young guys in a trade while absorbing salary, but I don't see the point in making lateral moves for mediocre players (Olynyk, etc) when we're gonna win 30 games.
 
I think we need scoring off the bench and ESPECIALLY in the frontcourt.

Kelly Olynyk has fallen out of favor it seems - inconsistent role. Minutes (17mpg) are being eaten by Sullinger and Zeller.

Capable scorer, 24 years old and a career 35% from three.

In Portland he'd get the minutes backing up Plumlee and Leonard.
Our bench scored 73 pts last night...I don't think bench scoring is a glaring deficiency
 
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We need draft picks.

If a top 20 player in his 20s becomes available, then consolidate some of our young guys in a trade while absorbing salary, but I don't see the point in making lateral moves for mediocre players (Olynyk, etc) when we're gonna win 30 games.

Exactly - we want picks and/or possibly the rights to drafts-and-stashes. The only players that MIGHT excite teams a little (excluding Lillard, of course) are CJ and Leonard. But Henderson might be of interest to a contender, especially one that's just had an injury to a wing player. If we can do a trade like the one Denver did with us with Afflalo (but in reverse) that's the best we can hope for.

No to Olynyk. He's an interesting offensive player who will destroy your team defense. Y'know, like most of the players we already have.
 
Lets sweeten the deal by trading away SlyPokerDog to any Henderson/Kaman trade. Maybe it'll net us a future 1st and cash considerations.
 
A Portland mayor who lives in another state would be so East-Coast.
 
We need draft picks.

If a top 20 player in his 20s becomes available, then consolidate some of our young guys in a trade while absorbing salary, but I don't see the point in making lateral moves for mediocre players (Olynyk, etc) when we're gonna win 30 games.

Can someone please put together a list of top 20 players on their 20s that are available?
 
Also, my homie came up with these and I dig them. Check it out if you like things that make sense.


The Curry Rules, by Sue Denim

1-No Three's

2-No Floaters

3-Hedge Everything

4-Guard Klay, Not Dray

5-Make Him Play D


Steph Curry is doing things in the NBA that have never been done. He is terrifying defenses with his limitless range and lighting-quick shot. His ball handling has improved, his floaters and lay-ups are otherworldly, and his ability to navigate the floor has improved noticeably under the tutelage of all-time great Steve Nash. But here is what makes him the most dangerous: through 20 games, he has 5 quarters of 20 points or more. 5. No other player has more than 1. Those kind of outbursts win games. When Michael Jordan was in his heyday, he was virtually unstoppable. In order to give themselves a chance, the Bad Boy Pistons came up with what they called "The Jordan Rules," which were intended for stopping His Airness from stampeding all the way to the finals. Steph Curry is now worthy of such a set of rules.


Traditional basketball rationale dictates that when you rotate to the open man under Thibidouian defensive principals, the weak-side D rotates one man at a time to cover the ball being swung from strong to weak on the perimeter. This principle allows you to recover from double-teaming a great player or from gaps caused by defensive breakdowns. However, Curry commands at least two people within 30 feet of the cup, and, no matter how you shake it, the best passing team in the league (no disrespect to Pop's crew) is going to beat traditional defensive rotations. Passing is just faster and less exhaustive than running around trying to play catch up D. Some teams have adopted a counter measure of switching off of the man who is two passes over to gain a jump on the switching and confuse the offense, but this method can't be used with consistency early in the shot clock, especially against a team that is as intelligent as Golden State.


But here's the thing—one team figured out a new way to play under Thibs' scheme. Golden State stumbled upon it in the playoffs last year in the Memphis series when they were down 2-1 and on the road. Andrew Bogut was getting abused on his rotations and Memphis' offense was clicking. The Warrior's countered this by leaving an offensively challenged(being nice here) Tony Allen alone in the corner and forcing him to make the play in 4 on 3 scenarios. It was a resounding success and Golden State only lost one more game between the West Semi's and now, 20 games into the 2015-16 season.


This is where the Curry Rules kick in. Other than Mr. Curry himself, the Warriors have just one weapon from deep, and that's Klay Thompson. Draymond Green, Harrison Barnes, and Andre Igoudala are all capable of hitting form deep, but none of them can claim it as a strength. And their back-up guards(Livingston, Barbosa) are not on the team for their long range abilities. So, the best jump shooting team in the league has two true jump shooters. That is their weakness. If you hedge like a madman on all Curry screens, you can eliminate all but the most difficult Curry threes, not to mention his forays into the lane. If you hedge like mad, the Warriors are either going to swing the ball around to the open three, or they're going to dump to the screener(this is the better play) and have him create a 4 on 3 opportunity without Curry. This is what Barnes, Igoudala and Green excel at, and what Cleveland did wrong. Cleveland was so terrified of the three that they gave up the lethal 4 on 3 situations quarterbacked most often by Draymond Green, who knows what he's doing. That's why, in order to guard this horrifying offensive juggernaut, you have to pick what weapon you let them use. You can't let Curry beat you, you can't let Thompson's man switch at the expense of giving up a three, and you can't let them beat you with 4 on 3's. So leave the others open for three. You force an otherwise streamlined offense to live and die solely on the Warrior's role players making catch and shoot threes. You have two guys on Curry, one on Thompson, you plug the middle, and you make other guys beat you with the weakest part of their game, shooting without Curry and Thompson getting them in rhythm.



If you look at the first clip in the video, you will see that helping off Livingston is what has to be done even though he is on the ball. Give that shot to Livingston, and not Thompson
 
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Do you trust Neil?

So far his trades are looking mediocre.

Vonleh is extremely raw and not even close to being a rotation player. It's a contract year for Nic but he's playing at an All-Star level - at SG.

The Brooklyn trade has worked out well for both teams but long term is concerning - RHJ, before the injury, looked every bit as disruptive on defense as Oladipo. His jumper is broken but he showed Tony Allen-like potential.

Giving up a first-rounder for a declining player who was going to opt out stings. Barton playing like ADHD Ginobli only compounds it.
 
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