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We already have two defensive minded forwards that can't shoot.
I'm not so concerned about scoring from the PF position..Blazers have been there, done that for a long time now...and I want the PF to be the best defender on the team..
 
I'm not so concerned about scoring from the PF position..Blazers have been there, done that for a long time now...and I want the PF to be the best defender on the team..

Gordon isn't really a PF though. He's a tweener like aminu and harkless.
 
I haven't seen him play a lot, but trading Meyers for a young talent would be a good move unless you want to pay him and sign him for next season. I think Meyers would benefit from a change of scenery....fans don't seem optimistic about him. He may be much better by the end of his next deal.
 
Agreed.

To get an idea why the Cavs are trying to move Varejao, he makes $9.6M this season. The Cavs team salary is at $109,270,293. They are over the tax line by $24,530,293. Their Luxury Tax bill is currently $61,988,599. If they could find a way to eliminate Varejao's $9.6M, that would result in a total savings of over $43M for the Cavs. They certainly have some financial incentive to trim where they can.

I posted this earlier, but here's a breakdown of all of the teams and their current CAP Space / Luxury Tax situation:

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If they get him to agree to a $3M buyout and stretch it, his cap hit becomes $1m plus the LT on that.
 
If they get him to agree to a $3M buyout and stretch it, his cap hit becomes $1m plus the LT on that.
It looks like Varejao is guaranteed $19M this year and next. Why would Varejao give up $19M for a $3M buyout? If he's betting on making that up in free agency, that a huge gamble on his part, and not many players would take that risk.
 
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It looks like Varejao is guaranteed $19M this year and next. Why would Varejao give up $19M for a $3M buyout? If he's betting on making that up in free agency, that a huge gamble on his part, and not many players would take that risk.
Maybe he wants to play?
 
It looks like Varejao is guaranteed $19M this year and next. Why would Varejao give up $19M for a $3M buyout? If he's betting on making that up in free agency, that a huge gamble on his part, and not many players would take that risk.
He wouldn't. Denny is dreaming and the man is already playing. He isn't going to magically play 30 mins a game somewhere else.

I not totally against trading for him though. What is the soonest 1st rounder that CLE can deal?
 
Similar buyout to what you were discussing? No.
I threw out a number, $3m because the math for the stretch is easy. Rip took $11M, owed $19M over 2 seasons. Varajao owed $19M over 2 seasons... Not similar at all /sarcasm.

$11m stretched is $3.6m instead of ~$10M, saving significant cash and LT.

Rip signed a 3 year $15M contract with the Bulls, only $11M guaranteed and paid.
 
I threw out a number, $3m because the math for the stretch is easy. Rip took $11M, owed $19M over 2 seasons. Varajao owed $19M over 2 seasons... Not similar at all /sarcasm.

$11m stretched is $3.6m instead of ~$10M, saving significant cash and LT.

Rip signed a 3 year $15M contract with the Bulls, only $11M guaranteed and paid.
Understood but the number is important because he isn't going to accept that low. So throwing that out just due to simple math bites you in the ass. Plenty of players that teams think will go for a buyout don't. You really have to put your best foot forward ($) if you go that direction and at this point I think CLE is thinking a trade is much more likely then him accepting a buyout (he actually likes it in CLE and wants to stay though - he is LeBron's top friend on the team according to reports).
 
Maybe he wants to play?
I think he'd probably rather do what Nash did in Canada and get involved with Brazilian National Team basketball..Yao is a titan in China..these guys are rock stars at home and have been paid pretty well over a career
 
Understood but the number is important because he isn't going to accept that low. So throwing that out just due to simple math bites you in the ass. Plenty of players that teams think will go for a buyout don't. You really have to put your best foot forward ($) if you go that direction and at this point I think CLE is thinking a trade is much more likely then him accepting a buyout (he actually likes it in CLE and wants to stay though - he is LeBron's top friend on the team according to reports).
Just because he no longer plays for the Cavs, he'll still be Lebron's close friend..his career is sort of like Przybilla's at the end..game over
 
Varejao plays at a high level, on a top team. We would keep him. He might be our best big man.
 
Understood but the number is important because he isn't going to accept that low. So throwing that out just due to simple math bites you in the ass. Plenty of players that teams think will go for a buyout don't. You really have to put your best foot forward if you go that direction and at this point I think CLE is thinking a trade is much more likely then him accepting a buyout (he actually likes it in CLE and wants to stay though - he is LeBron's top friend on the team according to reports).
I also wrote it depends on how Cleveland values whatever else they have to give up to get someone to take him. Portland or Philly.

If the buyout costs them $6M vs trade with a pick, they might be willing to pay the $6M for the pick and keep it.
 
I think he'd probably rather do what Nash did in Canada and get involved with Brazilian National Team basketball..Yao is a titan in China..these guys are rock stars at home and have been paid pretty well over a career

Rip turned a two year $19M deal into a 2 year $21M one. He left $8M on the table in Cleveland. Rip is no dummy ;)
 
I would fucking hate that fucker on my team. I could never support his kind of unsportsmanlike douche behavior. I'd be embarrassed if he were a Blazer.
Meh, lots of players fall into that category. Rodman, Bowen, rick fox, Matt Barnes, Hell even Ruben patterson. All have been good players that people like on their team, but hate on others.

Beverly sure would have been fun to watch next to Brandon Roy
 
I don't remember Rueben being a dirty hit man on the court. Those other ass holes weren't Blazers.
 

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