Olshey interview at draft combine

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JDC said:
Kadeem posted a better standing vert, max vert, shuttle run, and 3/4" sprint than Khyri at their respective combines plus a higher ft rate, blk rate and defensive box plus minus during college.

I'd I've watched a lot of both and never have I seen Khyri display this level of athleticism...

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I've seen Wiggins do that but he is a horrible defender. Some of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA over the years (Tony Allen, Patrick Beverley, Avery Bradley, Chris Paul, etc) aren't the most athletically gifted guys. What does ft rate have to do with defense?
 
hoopsjock said:
I've seen Wiggins do that but he is a horrible defender. Some of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA over the years (Tony Allen, Patrick Beverley, Avery Bradley, Chris Paul, etc) aren't the most athletically gifted guys. What does ft rate have to do with defense?
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FT rate s highly correlated to athleticism, especially for guards. And yes, athleticism is only a part of D but it's certainly needed to be truly elite.

All of those guys you listed are very athletic in many ways and posted high ft rates college minus bradley. But people forget that Avery was a top 5 HS recruit.

And to the Wiggins point, Andrew was just an ok defender in college and has always had more of a scorer's mentality. That Kansas team also was outside the top 100 defensively despite have Joel Embiid protecting the rim.
 
JDC said:
FT rate s highly correlated to athleticism, especially for guards. And yes, athleticism is only a part of D but it's certainly needed to be truly elite.

All of those guys you listed are very athletic in many ways and posted high ft rates college minus bradley. But people forget that Avery was a top 5 HS recruit.

And to the Wiggins point, Andrew was just an ok defender in college and has always had more of a scorer's mentality. That Kansas team also was outside the top 100 defensively despite have Joel Embiid protecting the rim.
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Avery Bradley isn't the most athletic guy but is certainly an elite defender. Same with Klay.
 
BonesJones said:
Avery Bradley isn't the most athletic guy but is certainly an elite defender. Same with Klay.
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Avery is an elite one on one defender vs pg's but average to below average everywhere else. Sneaky bad team defender and just doesn't have the size the be a multi positional defender.

Klay is very good and the stats def underrate him. Great size, smarts and competitiveness. Underrated agility.
 
JDC said:
Avery is an elite one on one defender vs pg's but average to below average everywhere else. Sneaky bad team defender and just doesn't have the size the be a multi positional defender.

Klay is very good and the stats def underrate him. Great size, smarts and competitiveness. Underrated agility.
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Its seems all size and athleticism-based with you.
 
BonesJones said:
Its seems all size and athleticism-based with you.
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IQ is the main reason Avery is an overrated defender (it's why he's a bad team defender) so yes, IQ is massively important. And I noted it as why Klay is underrated.

But look at the playoffs, if you don't pair it with size, strength and athleticism, smart teams will take advantage of that guy.
 
JDC said:
IQ is the main reason Avery is an overrated defender (it's why he's a bad team defender) so yes, IQ is massively important. And I noted it as why Klay is underrated.

But look at the playoffs, if you don't pair it with size, strength and athleticism, smart teams will take advantage of that guy.
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6'3 with 6'10 arms is better than 6'5 with 6'7 arms. Height isn't the main thing.
 
BonesJones said:
6'3 with 6'10 arms is better than 6'5 with 6'7 arms. Height isn't the main thing.
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Not the main thing, but despite the wingspan advantage, Huerter still has a slight edge in reach. Huerter is also over 6'6" w/o shoes.

And I just think Huerter is the better overall athlete with similar IQ. But again, I don't think either project to be super impactful on D.
 
JDC said:
Not the main thing, but despite the wingspan advantage, Huerter still has a slight edge in reach. Huerter is also over 6'6" w/o shoes.

And I just think Huerter is the better overall athlete with similar IQ. But again, I don't think either project to be super impactful on D.
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A longer wingspan means a bigger threat for steals and deflections. Thomas will be a good defender and 3pt shooter. His floor is that of a serviceable 3-and-D guard. Those types are always drafted too low.
 
BonesJones said:
So you view Kevin Huerter as having defensive potential, but Khyri Thomas' defense might not translate?...

Matthews didn't have much offensive game outside of jumpsuits...
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Yes, but in a jumpsuit, his light really did shine:

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BNM
 
I'm actually a little more concerned about the off season and Olshey after these comments. This is the type of situation that results in adding Chris Kaman and Steve Blake level talent instead of a potential difference maker.
 
So our offseason plan is to do enough to hopefully get to the second round?
 
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