Olshey?

[Norman Dale]

Olshey needs to be fired. His big free agent gets over the last 4 years are Mo Williams, Kaman, Blake, Aminu, Davis and now Turner and Zaza. His draft pick was CJ, but that's been it (Lillard was a done deal before Olshey was hired). His trades have also been underwhelming - Lopez, Plumlee, Vonleh. Time to move on!

 

[OneLifeToLive]

He holds a tite ship and his teams have great chemistry. I do blame him for that. As for all the other stuff. Well, they are in the archives for all to see. I think he is full of hot air and is able to sell just about anything to this owner and have the owner jump on board with it.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Another aspect of grading Olshey, is moves he tried to make. Hawes, Hibbert and Monroe...the teams that they actually did sign with ended up with buyer's remorse...Kanter is sort of on the fence in that respect.

Olshey sends them back to the competing teams with a curse.. Parsons knees are due to explode and Pau will now age horrifically.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'll give him this much. Knowing that the cornerstone of his team is about to leave with zero compensation coming back, it looks like he's trying to turn chickenshit into chicken salad. I'll let you know how it tastes this time next year.

Turns out, chickenshit still tastes like chickenshit no matter what you do to doctor it up

 

[Rastapopoulos]

So: what has been Olshey's greatest achievement? Drafting Lillard, right? What's his second-greatest?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

It's not Olshey, it's Portland. This place blows dick and will always blow dick in the eyes of the NBA and it's players.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

He holds a tite ship and his teams have great chemistry. I do blame him for that. As for all the other stuff. Well, they are in the archives for all to see. I think he is full of hot air and is able to sell just about anything to this owner and have the owner jump on board with it.

But I think he is incompetent in many parts of the job description.

 

[Natebishop3]

So: what has been Olshey's greatest achievement? Drafting Lillard, right? What's his second-greatest?

CJ?

 

[Nikolokolus]

So: what has been Olshey's greatest achievement? Drafting Lillard, right? What's his second-greatest?

CJ ... Lillard's clone ... go figure?

 

[ripcityboy]

He's kind of a screwed this year. The new cap has bumped even the cheapes, most sparely-talented player's value into the heavens. His main source of talent acquisition.... trading late round draft picks for upside rotational players.... is gone. I really like the guy but I can't help feeling he was a little naive. He's always talking about relationships with agents and GM's. Well WTF does that matter in the an offseason where you have no draft picks and no fre agent will sign with you! If he's been buying time for hid career sake, the clock has struck twelve. It's Neil or bust!

 

[BonesJones]

Olshey needs to be fired. His big free agent gets over the last 4 years are Mo Williams, Kaman, Blake, Aminu, Davis and now Turner and Zaza. His draft pick was CJ, but that's been it (Lillard was a done deal before Olshey was hired). His trades have also been underwhelming - Lopez, Plumlee, Vonleh. Time to move on!

We signed Zaza?

 

[e_blazer]

But I think he is incompetent in many parts of the job description.

You mean the part where he can't convince top-level free agents to come to Portland?

Yeah, I think you're going to have to look long and hard to find a replacement who has that part of the job description down pat.

 

[BonesJones]

I wish I was GM. I think I'd do as good if a job as Niel for 1/4th the price

 

[ripcityboy]

I wish I was GM. I think I'd do as good if a job as Niel for 1/4th the price

Shit. I'd do it for much less than that.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Damn, Neil is so awful.

He's totally failed because he can't get free agents to choose Portland as a destination.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Damn, Neil is so awful.

He's totally failed because he can't get free agents to choose Portland as a destination.

The fucker!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Damn, Neil is so awful.

He's totally failed because he can't get free agents to choose Portland as a destination.

No. But that awful Afflalo trade is on him, and chasing washed up Pau Gasol doesn't inspire much confidence -- he's got enough real failures to damn him without the need to manufacture them.

 

[PDXFonz]

I wish I was GM. I think I'd do as good if a job as Niel for 1/4th the price

Do you know Zaza Pachulias agents phone number?

 

[TBpup]

If I had a criticism, it would be letting SO MANY players go for nothing instead of trading them for more controllable pieces while they still have value. The list of players that has left Portland with no compensation is staggering. Add to that the lack of draft picks lately and it is very difficult to be in a position of leverage. Neil has talked about cap space as a tool for a couple of years now but I've yet to see much done with it. No unbalanced trades, not consolidation deals....just 'we are going to have cap space' when hysterically that hasn't worked for a number of reasons. Maybe he thought by his pure presence that would change but I've yet to see evidence of that.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

The fucker!

I know. He's been here how many seasons? Four?

We've made the playoffs the last 3 seasons. And we were only expected to make the playoffs one of those three years. I get we're not a upper-echelon team, but we're young, we're gelling, several players have room for continued growth, and as long as we have those things, at some point, an opportunity or two is bound to present itself that can help us take that next step (think Buck Williams acquisition). We're not there yet, but we're in that area where one or two moves can really help us take a big step forward. So, I guess I'm more optimistic than most here.

I'd like to see us take that next step, but I've seen enough from the current crew - they're fun to watch, they're good, they're competitive, they're good people - that I can say I just enjoy following this team.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

No. But that awful Afflalo trade is on him, and chasing washed up Pau Gasol doesn't inspire much confidence -- he's got enough real failures to damn him without the need to manufacture them.

It's not JUST free agency. It's every way he conducts his job. The draft. Handling trades. What he has done in free agency or the lack of. Ideologically, compared to some other GMs that's been here in the past. He was off. He's also very wasteful with the resources he has and not creative enough.

He is five years into it and they are no better from a player personal standpoint than they were when he arrived.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I wish I was GM. I think I'd do as good if a job as Niel for 1/4th the price

Lol. Sorry but that's just ridiculous.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

No. But that awful Afflalo trade is on him, and chasing washed up Pau Gasol doesn't inspire much confidence -- he's got enough real failures to damn him without the need to manufacture them.

He can only do so much as far as free agents goes. The AA trade turned out bad - hindsight is 20/20. Most of us, at the time, thought it was the right move. I wasn't a huge fan, but NO put his foot on the gas and made the move to hopefully help us take the next step. Wes was injured right after, and that deflated the season. AA didn't mesh as well as hoped. The trade was a flop in the end, but if NO hadn't made a move and Wes isn't injured, when we didn't have enough fire power and would likely get bounced in the playoffs, people would have wondered why NO didn't make a move at the deadline. I like that he wasn't afraid to go for it.

 

[Strenuus]

He can only do so much as far as free agents goes. The AA trade turned out bad - hindsight is 20/20. Most of us, at the time, thought it was the right move. I wasn't a huge fan, but NO put his foot on the gas and made the move to hopefully help us take the next step. Wes was injured right after, and that deflated the season. AA didn't mesh as well as hoped. The trade was a flop in the end, but if NO hadn't made a move and Wes isn't injured, when we didn't have enough fire power and would likely get bounced in the playoffs, people would have wondered why NO didn't make a move at the deadline. I like that he wasn't afraid to go for it.

Bottom line, it wasn't a bad trade. If someone thinks its a bad trade, its because they dont understand basic logic.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I judge results, not intentions.

 

[BonesJones]

The thing is, situations are fluid and he seems to only have rigid plans in place. He had the ability to trade into the late first and grab a steal that had fallen in Labissiere, Davis, or a backup PG in Jackson. Instead he didn't and said something along the lines of not straying away from what they already wanted to do. He had his guy in Layman, and just because of that he didn't trade up to get great value... It's stupid.

He lacks the creativity needed to get the team to take the next step. He's GREAT as a bargain hunter, and I would've chosen him over every other GM given the situation we had last year. But now he doesn't know what to do next and that's obvious by what's happened in free agent with his coveted cap space...

He has to pull off a trade for a superstar. If he doesn't, then he has no benefit for us.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I know. He's been here how many seasons? Four?

We've made the playoffs the last 3 seasons. And we were only expected to make the playoffs one of those three years. I get we're not a upper-echelon team, but we're young, we're gelling, several players have room for continued growth, and as long as we have those things, at some point, an opportunity or two is bound to present itself that can help us take that next step (think Buck Williams acquisition). We're not there yet, but we're in that area where one or two moves can really help us take a big step forward. So, I guess I'm more optimistic than most here.

I'd like to see us take that next step, but I've seen enough from the current crew - they're fun to watch, they're good, they're competitive, they're good people - that I can say I just enjoy following this team.

Honestly, he is doing the best possible job or us. I don't think any other GM would help us more at this stage. I just hope he matches on our RFA and they all pan out, I mean Crabbe, Harkless, Leonard, and even the young guys like Vonleh and Montero have killer potential, it's just a waiting game.

but..... FUCK THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I judge results, not intentions.

By that logic, you're happier now with the organization than the previous 15 years? Cuz as I see it, as a team and organization, we're at the highest point we've been in for 15 years.

 

[BonesJones]

Lol. Sorry but that's just ridiculous.

You don't think I could? I wanted to draft Lillard, Leonard, and CJ. I could've made the free agent signings he has.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

You don't think I could? I wanted to draft Lillard, Leonard, and CJ. I could've made the free agent signings he has.

Lillard was a forgone conclusion before Olshey arrived. He was being looked at heavily by Buchanon and our scouting team. And they had Allen excited about him.