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Schilly said:
It's interesting in a lot of ways Neil's inability to land targeted FA's has actually been for the better... Hibbert, Monroe, Gasol, Zaza probably Parsons when his knee implodes.
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I forgot Spencer Hawes
 
BlazerManiac said:
You cannot blame Olshey when he offers Gasol $10M more than the Spurs and we still lose him. We do not get a meeting with Howard or White. You cannot blame Olshey for not attracting free agents. NO GM before him could do it either.
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I can blame him for even offering 20 million a year to Gasol. Not smart; seems like a desperate move to prove we can attract a name star to Portland; but everyone would have seen it as a foolish GM overpaying an aging star.
 
BonesJones said:
What have Olsheys relationships got him exactly?
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This is what I am thinking also. Didn't Whiteside's agent know that PDX was being used? Didn't Olshey have any inside info that we weren't gonna get Howard, so that he could have focused on Mahimni? He seemed to be one step behind during the entire process.
 
How badly would people freak out if targets A an B had been Turner and Mahinmi at 9:01 June 30th? And then paid over perceived market value for them...
 
Everybody acts like we went after all the free agents that were rumored and missed. Only two I see that we legitimately went after and missed were parsons and gasol. Everything else was a rumor. Look at what mahimi got paid. We might of been going after him but he signed a big deal and obviously we now want to keep our RFA's. They all want too much money. Turner deal is eh to me but that was obviously plan b. This isn't the summer we hoped for but we still got better. We didn't even have a meeting with horford. Probably never wanted one given the fact that parsons was plan A. Whiteside just used teams for leverage, he wasn't going anywhere. It's easy to freak out and say "what is Neil doing?! Omg!". We got better. However you wanna look at it. Plus this young team has playoff experience now. They understand the next level.

Obviously durant to gsw might derail any plans within the next couple years to make the finals but you never know. Everybody needs to chill.
 
I don't know that Charlotte blew me away this offseason either. They lost Jefferson and Lin and added Hibbert?
 
Schilly said:
I don't know that Charlotte blew me away this offseason either. They lost Jefferson and Lin and added Hibbert?
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the grass is always greener in my neighbors lawn. don't you forget that, bucko.
 
Schilly said:
I don't know that Charlotte blew me away this offseason either. They lost Jefferson and Lin and added Hibbert?
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They replaced lin with sessions, who had a decent year last year for half the cost of lin.

Not saying its groundbreaking, but they did sign hibbert and sessions to good deals. Cho deserves some credit this year.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Serious question: has Olshey done a better job for Portland than Rich Cho has for Charlotte?
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How the hell is this in any way a serious question?
Charlotte under Cho
2012-2013 21w no playoffs
2013-2014 43w bounced in the first round in a sweep
2014-2015 33w no playoffs
2015-2016 48w lost in the first round 3-4

Blazers under NO
12-13: 33W no playoffs
13-14: 54w Second round
14-15: 51W first round out
15-16: 44W Second round

If you want to talk about draft picks as well CJ/Dame are better then anyone that Cho has drafted as well. We have won more playoff games in both 2013 and 2016 then the Hornets have won in the 4 years Cho has been there GM. To add on top of that they play in the damn EAST and still suck year after year.
 
Rhal said:
How the hell is this in any way a serious question?
Charlotte under Cho
2012-2013 21w no playoffs
2013-2014 43w bounced in the first round in a sweep
2014-2015 33w no playoffs
2015-2016 48w lost in the first round 3-4

Blazers under NO
12-13: 33W no playoffs
13-14: 54w Second round
14-15: 51W first round out
15-16: 44W Second round

If you want to talk about draft picks as well CJ/Dame are better then anyone that Cho has drafted as well. We have won more playoff games in both 2013 and 2016 then the Hornets have won in the 4 years Cho has been there GM. To add on top of that they play in the damn EAST and still suck year after year.
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So...
Hornets under Cho: from 21 wins to 48 wins
Blazers under Olshey: 33 wins to 44 wins.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
So...
Hornets under Cho: from 21 wins to 48 wins
Blazers under Olshey: 33 wins to 44 wins.
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This post really hurts my head. Under NO we have TWICE had better records then the Hornets best season under Cho at 48w and advanced farther in the playoffs Twice. We have also done it in the West while they are int he much easier conference in the east.
 
Nikolokolus said:
No. But that awful Afflalo trade is on him, and chasing washed up Pau Gasol doesn't inspire much confidence -- he's got enough real failures to damn him without the need to manufacture them.
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Gees man. You are still on this Afflalo trade when Everyone knew he was supposed to be a backup?
Nice to have your very narrow and unwavering viewpoint back.....
 
Orion Bailey said:
Gees man. You are still on this Afflalo trade when Everyone knew he was supposed to be a backup?
Nice to have your very narrow and unwavering viewpoint back.....
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Narrow unwavering viewpoints can go both ways can
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I appreciate having @Nikolokolus back. He always has good takes, even if the truth hurts sometimes.
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Yes, I've often said that about Nik, both here and on ESPN. But the handwaving shills are dominating this thread, calling the majority the minority.
UKRAINEFAN said:
This is what I am thinking also. Didn't Whiteside's agent know that PDX was being used? Didn't Olshey have any inside info that we weren't gonna get Howard, so that he could have focused on Mahimni? He seemed to be one step behind during the entire process.
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True. A year ago he was ahead of the curve, showing up at midnight at the player's home, but the rest of the GMs caught up. Same for Stotts' offensive system about avoiding mid-range shots. It worked well as a novelty 3 years ago, but now all teams do it and know how to defend it.
 
Again, Olshey's only "failure" is not recognizing that Portland won't attract the guys he wants and needs. We need a defensive big and a 3rd scorer, so he should have addressed that through trade...and still might, and the draft. Buying a 2nd rounder should have been to take a shot at a center.
 
All last summer, 2nd-and 3rd-tier players would get signed. We'd say, "That guy could help us and we have plenty of money still left. Why did Olshey guarantee contracts for Alexander and Montero?" The lovers of the status quo, whatever the status quo ever is at the time, would answer, "There's always a minority of complainers. Obviously, Olshey is saving up to use it in the summer, which isn't over, and at the Midseason Trade Deadline." The deadline came and went. They said, "No problem with the unused money Olshey could have used to get better players. The rules say we will allocate it to the existing players. Problem solved." The draft came, without the pick he had traded for nothing. They said, "Free agency is what matters, not the draft. Olshey plans to use all the wasted cap room he built up by not signing good players to longer contracts, in the first week of July to get us some great player." The week to sign 1st-tier free agents is now ending. They say, "Olshey never planned to get Whiteside or anyone else. That was just your message board fantasy. We're in the silent majority. You apparent-majority crazies are always complaining. The summer has just begun." In September, like last September, we'll say, "The summer is over." They'll answer like last September, "How do you know he won't get someone good in the month remaining?" Blah blah golden future blah blah Pritchard blah blah...
 
Should Olshey take the fall for this?
PRO:
We have a ton of bloated contracts, only 3 good players (two of whom can't play defense)

CON:
Not his fault three of our bigs were injured for this playoff series

I'm leaning to: fire him quick before the draft. But I don't know who we'd replace him with.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Should Olshey take the fall for this?
PRO:
We have a ton of bloated contracts, only 3 good players (two of whom can't play defense)

CON:
Not his fault three of our bigs were injured for this playoff series

I'm leaning to: fire him quick before the draft. But I don't know who we'd replace him with.
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yes he should its his mess. needs to be fired asap so we can hire a real gm before the draft
 
Mediocre Man said:
Again, Olshey's only "failure" is not recognizing that Portland won't attract the guys he wants and needs. We need a defensive big and a 3rd scorer, so he should have addressed that through trade...and still might
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Well we can fill this checkbox neatly.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Should Olshey take the fall for this?
PRO:
We have a ton of bloated contracts, only 3 good players (two of whom can't play defense)

CON:
Not his fault three of our bigs were injured for this playoff series

I'm leaning to: fire him quick before the draft. But I don't know who we'd replace him with.
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It would be very Paul Allen of this team to fire another GM right before the draft, so I can't say I'm love with that idea. That doesn't mean I'm crazy about the job he's done (a solid 'C' level), but I think the Nurkic trade bought him some time.

If the roster is still fucked up and underperforms by the All-Star break next year, then I'm all for a top to bottom house-cleaning.
 
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