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maxiep said:
Count me as someone that wants to keep Nico.
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Word. Think its being discounted how important long term chemistry is. Nico has been a glue to this team and im counting on him following up his down year with a highly successful one.
 
Draco said:
Hibbert will be a free agent so he can't be traded except for sign and trades. I'd consider a longer deal for AAA if the price is right; this is a great opportunity to buy low with him. Other than that we are thinking very much alike this summer.
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Hibbert has a player option for next year for about 15.5 mil, if he exercises it he is UFA, if he doesn't then he can be traded. He has to decide before free agency begins and I have not heard anything yet on his potential decision
 
HailBlazers said:
Word. Think its being discounted how important long term chemistry is. Nico has been a glue to this team and im counting on him following up his down year with a highly successful one.
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I have learned that I can't count on Nic to be consistent or make the Blazers his top priority vs playing almost every summer for France and wearing his body down. It is of course his choice but it can be the Blazers choice to say we have had enough - which is my stance, trade him this summer while we can get something decent back
 
Blazinaway said:
Hibbert has a player option for next year for about 15.5 mil, if he exercises it he is UFA, if he doesn't then he can be traded. He has to decide before free agency begins and I have not heard anything yet on his potential decision
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If I were him, I would keep the money and work for a payday when cap will give him the world. If he went to Portland and just blew up, he could be a close max player on a cap that probably is the same rate as a current max player today
 
magnifier661 said:
If I were him, I would keep the money and work for a payday when cap will give him the world. If he went to Portland and just blew up, he could be a close max player on a cap that probably is the same rate as a current max player today
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agree and that is one choice, he could also opt out if he wants out of Indy and sign a decent sized 2 yr deal with a player option his second yr, that way if he has a really good year he still can get paid big for 2016/2017 when the big cap increase occurs -
 
Blazinaway said:
agree and that is one choice, he could also opt out if he wants out of Indy and sign a decent sized 2 yr deal with a player option his second yr, that way if he has a really good year he still can get paid big for 2016/2017 when the big cap increase occurs -
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If Indy were to tell him that he can go to Portland if he doesn't opt out, maybe having Olshey confirm, then it's a win win IMO.

We could resign everyone and have Hibbert, use MLE to find a vet starting SF or PG. we would have Hibbert and Lopez as the 1-2 punch at center, Leonard and Kaman backing up Aldridge and third string center.
 
If Aldridge really doesn't want to play with Millard or be in Portland then I'm in favor of letting him go.
 
Blazinaway said:
Things hinge on LMA and whether he leaves for nothing or we might get something in a S&T, so the only thing I am sure of is I want to trade Nic cause I don't think he wants to re-sign here and I want to get some value while we can
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Nic did not want to be here prior to signing that contract. He wanted to play for Rick A. But than
 
I wish it was just as easy as just bringing everyone back. You can bring everyone back with these same dynamics and the needle not move at all. If you aren't going to make the changes from coaching, ideology standpoint you need to make it with the character and the talent on the floor. Some how, Some way this team needs to get more competitive, tougher and better defensively.

So here is an idea to make it happen.

1. Renounce the rights of Robin Lopez and assume the opt out of Arron Afflalo
2. Take the #23, Crabbe and Cash and move up to draft Sam Dekker
3 Trade Nic and Kaman to Indy for Roy Hibbert
4 Resign LA
5.Resign Wes
6. Make a Wesley Matthew toxic offer to Draymond Green and hope Warriors don't match.
 
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OneLifeToLive said:
I wish it was just as easy as just bringing everyone back. You can bring everyone back with these same dynamics and the needle not move at all. If you aren't going to make the changes from coaching, ideology standpoint you need to make it with the character and the talent on the floor. Some how, Some way this team needs to get more competitive, tougher and better defensively.

So here is an idea to make it happen.

1. Renounce the rights of Robin Lopez and assume the opt out of Arron Afflalo
2. Take the #23, Crabbe and Cash and move up to draft Sam Dekker
3 Trade Nic and Kaman to Indy for Roy Hibbert
4 Resign LA
5.Resign Wes
6. Make a Wesley Matthew toxic offer to Draymond Green and hope Warriors don't match.
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Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make. If we get improvements from a couple of Dame, CJ, Meyers, or Crabbe and the team has less injuries next year they could contend for the title as is. The Blazers were right there battling for the second seed in the west in March and that was with missed or ineffective games from Lopez, LMA, Nic. We've seen big improvements from the team for the last two years so it's certainly possible that trend continues.

There is zero chance we get Draymond Green might as well say we should target LeBron.
 
The only way this thread should be labeled notice is if Neil made it himself or Paul created the thread!
 
OneLifeToLive said:
I wish it was just as easy as just bringing everyone back. You can bring everyone back with these same dynamics and the needle not move at all. If you aren't going to make the changes from coaching, ideology standpoint you need to make it with the character and the talent on the floor. Some how, Some way this team needs to get more competitive, tougher and better defensively.

So here is an idea to make it happen.

1. Renounce the rights of Robin Lopez and assume the opt out of Arron Afflalo
2. Take the #23, Crabbe and Cash and move up to draft Sam Dekker
3 Trade Nic and Kaman to Indy for Roy Hibbert
4 Resign LA
5.Resign Wes
6. Make a Wesley Matthew toxic offer to Draymond Green and hope Warriors don't match.
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what's your plan B if they match Green
 
BonesJones said:
what's your plan B if they match Green
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Well, keep in mind it's just an idea. And after thinking about it. Wes Matthews and Green are very similar players. They're almost carbon copies. Not sure that would be the best avenue to take.

With that said, Dekker would be my Small Forward. And I would take the money and work to make a lopsided trade or the money add speed and depth and toughness to this roster. Which I think is lacking.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
Well, keep in mind it's just an idea. And after thinking about it. Wes Matthews and Green are very similar players. They're almost carbon copies. Not sure that would be the best avenue to take.

With that said, Dekker would be my Small Forward. And I would take the money and work to make a lopsided trade or the money add speed and depth and toughness to this roster. Which I think is lacking.
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I'd never pencil a rookie into the depth chart, too much to learn. McDermit was college player of the year but can't sniff the Bulls rotation. CJ was supposed to be NBA ready 4 year guy but has taken two years to do anything, and most the season deserved to be way outside the rotation. Best to get even a veteran minimum player to play any minutes and stash the rookie for down the road.
 
Gotcha. I like Deckker a lot. There seems to be a late lotto-mid round SF steal every year, I think he's it. I think Green will be overpaid so I don't think that's the way to go. I knew Aminu or Crowder as a cheap starter, using the money saved by signing then to upgrade the bench
 
Dame, Batum, Afflalo, Leonard, McCollom, and Crabbe will all be better next season. And I'm pretty sure that one way or another we'll have a better backup PG, too.

Lots of people panicking around here.
 
Draco said:
Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make. If we get improvements from a couple of Dame, CJ, Meyers, or Crabbe and the team has less injuries next year they could contend for the title as is. The Blazers were right there battling for the second seed in the west in March and that was with missed or ineffective games from Lopez, LMA, Nic. We've seen big improvements from the team for the last two years so it's certainly possible that trend continues.

There is zero chance we get Draymond Green might as well say we should target LeBron.
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I agree with you on Green.

The talent prob isn't far off. But competitively something needs to change for this team. I don't think that dynamic is in place for it to change. Terry for as much as I loved him last year, looked like he had very lil control this year. And I'm starting to buy into the idea that this organization, players(This group atleast) thinks it's ok to be competitive to make the playoffs and nothing more. And I'm NOW starting to believe some of the fans are A ok with that as well. I'm here to tell that if have a year next year like we had this year with this same group. All the same people will be claiming and crying the same thing. And that's no changes need to be made.
 
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1 - Have a plan B in place -- Go hard after Kevin Love or Draymond Green.

2 - Trade Batum.

3 - Trade Batum.

4 - Let AA walk.

5 - Trade Batum.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
I agree with you on Green.

The talent prob isn't far off. But competitively something needs to change for this team. I don't think that dynamic is in place for it to change. Terry for as much as I loved him last year, looked like he had very lil control this year. And I'm starting to buy into the idea that this organization, players(This group atleast) thinks it's ok to be competitive to make the playoffs and nothing more. And I'm NOW starting to believe some of the fans are A ok with that as well. I'm here to tell that if have a year next year like we had this year with this same group. All the same people will be claiming and crying the same thing. And that's no changes need to be made.
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I'm sure a lot of fans thought the same thing when a healthy Spurs team got whooped in the first round or when a 65 win Dallas team lost to an 8th seed. Both franchises kept their core together, had little expectations to contend and won titles. Neil has a great feel for players and if he thinks one guy needs to go as he did with JJ Hickson or Mo Williams he'll make the change.

But we never heard any disagreements from this group or complaining about shots or envy of so and so getting stats even though half the roster would be free agents. I see a lot of good promise with this group. The faults were very understandable so I have no problem bringing the boys back. Of course Neil will always consider upgrades but if nothing is available it would be the best Blazers roster of at least the last 15 years so I wouldn't get greedy expecting more than that.
 
I love how some people do posts as if they can get inside of Neils & Pauls brain and know there master plan.
 
BigGameDamian said:
I love how some people do posts as if they can get inside of Neils & Pauls brain and know there master plan.
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Rule #1 in trying to make fun of a mass of people on a message board.

Know the difference between there and their.

First one is on the house.
 
Would anyone be opposed of Portland trading Batum to SAS for a resigned Green and Patty Mills?
 
Depends on how much Green is signed for and who we could sign to replace Batum at SF
 
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