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Rick2583

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What moves (realistically) would you like to see happen that would make this team better in 2016 than it was in 2015? And what 5 starters would you be okay with to start the season?

Are you okay with platooning Ackley & Refsnyder at 2nd base or would you bring in someone like Zobrist?

Are you okay with Nova or should the team move him & perhaps go after some like Leake or Wei-Yin Chen?

Do the Yankees do whatever it takes to move Gardner & for who?

What to do with Bird?

Etc Etc.......
 
Honestly...? Fire Trashman, and sale the Team to a Jeter backed Ownership Group.......
 
This from a post I just made (Yankees news).
Regarding Yanks - 2016

Yanks would love for Arod to retire and go away and that would really be best for the team going forward, payroll, "flexibility".....but he isn't, and the best we could hope for is he (at least) puts up "good" numbers in a part time DH role with Bird and Tex in some kind of semi rotation also taking turns at DH. This will probably take care of itself one way or another with injuries (Arod,Tex?) and/or old age catching up.

To be fair to Tex and the Yanks, Tex was very good last year before his freaky injury and chances are he won't embarrass himself in 2016.

Bird will get his turn.

I'm more concerned with 2b,LF and RF....and of course SP.
Would like to see the Yanks take the chance and open up a slot in the rotation for another kid pitcher along with Severino.

Refsnyder MUST imo get every opportunity to LOSE the job at 2b.

Would like to see one of the kids , Heathcott,Judge..Williams(?) get alot of playing time in RF, and this situation will probably also take care of itself one way or another with Beltran possibility getting traded or being limited to a part-time RF, or an injury, or him losing more to age.

Gardner- after two consecutive mediocre at best seasons, it could be time to try and move him or make him the 4th-5th outfielder.

Williams and Heathcott would've gotten plenty of playing time in 2015 if they didn't get hurt.....Williams - kinda freaky injury hurting his shoulder diving back to the base....and Heathcott has to get over the hump and stay reasonably healthy.

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Oh, one last thing...I know it's going to sound silly (to say the least) to most, but, don't be surprised if CC is given another chance as a back end of the rotation SP.... Just saying what the Yanks may do.
....and maybe it could be time to move Nova in place of another SP preferably imo some youngster from the system ...or possibly a mid level fee agent...maybe Chen.
Pretty good SP and LH which is good - adds balance to the SP.

Don't get too excited over CC- This too will take care of itself one way or another.
IMHO - Yanks will NOT tolerate another year of CC consistently posting an ERA above 5.00
 
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I just want to know what other teams were asking from the Yanks at the 2015 trade deadline for:
Cueto, Price, Zobrist,Revere,Hamel.....I'll forget about Tulo since he also is a broken down high paid veteran with limited flexibilty like Arod...lol
And Tulo did NOTHING but show he's a DH in the waiting with very limited range at SS. Toronto can have him....and may I add, they will now move forward dealing with the Price situation/ramifications.

Same for Texas with Hamel....and while Zobrist is a fine player, he isnt a kid and I would prefer not to see Refsnyder blocked by him at 2b.


Anyone really know what the other teams were asking for those players?
I guess we can continue to howl at the moon and grit our teeth over Cashman.
We want to see the "youngsters".... the Yankees are still fully loaded with their good prospects and I have a feeling (I could be wrong) we're going to see quite a few in 2016 and onward.

Fire Cashman, dump him immediately, sell the team, whatever....I would still like to know the answer to the above question....I wasn't on the phone with those other teams, sorry.
 
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Rick2583 said:
I just can't shake this feeling that Zobrist will be wearing Yankee pinstripes next season.
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...could be, Rick. Needless to say, I wanted him at the trade deadline for this past season. But I still think Ref has a ways to go, especially defensively.

...true, Zobrist is a year older but if he'll take a ONE year deal, I say sign him...aside from 2B, he can play multiple positions and his professional workman-like reputation is a perfect fit for the Yanx.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...could be, Rick. Needless to say, I wanted him at the trade deadline for this past season. But I still think Ref has a ways to go, especially defensively.

...true, Zobrist is a year older but if he'll take a ONE year deal, I say sign him...aside from 2B, he can play multiple positions and his professional workman-like reputation is a perfect fit for the Yanx.
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Just go with Refsnyder until he proves he can't do the job.
If he proves to be "adequate" defensively, or displays decent range with the occasional boot or throwing error, I'll take it as long as he brings the bat he has shown at very level.

Zobrist is a good player - no doubt.
 
...well, that would be a good idea if it made sense. You can't simply wait until Refsnyder proves or disproves himself.

...if you make the decision beforehand to go with Refsnyder it means your not going to sign Zobrist...and if Refsnyder bombs, then what?

...and again, Zobrist plays MULTIPLE positions, and is a SWITCH hitter and even at his age, is a better defender than Refsnyder.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...could be, Rick. Needless to say, I wanted him at the trade deadline for this past season. But I still think Ref has a ways to go, especially defensively.

...true, Zobrist is a year older but if he'll take a ONE year deal, I say sign him...aside from 2B, he can play multiple positions and his professional workman-like reputation is a perfect fit for the Yanx.
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I don't remember where I saw it but Zobrist is looking for at least a 2 year deal. And yeah he can play 2B, SS & 3B.
 
...fwiw, if KC is smart
Rick2583 said:
I don't remember where I saw it but Zobrist is looking for at least a 2 year deal. And yeah he can play 2B, SS & 3B.
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...well, if he's that intent on a 2 year deal, no way.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Honestly...? Fire Trashman, and sale the Team to a Jeter backed Ownership Group.......
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...sale the team to a Jeter backed Ownership Group....

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^^^ I fail to see the humor, I'd love to see the team sold.
 
...^^^ so would I... (my turn yo agree with you)

...but evidently it's more "mature" to first accuse people of posting "childish pictures" and then hypocritically doing the very same thing...spiffy.
 
Rick2583 said:
I just can't shake this feeling that Zobrist will be wearing Yankee pinstripes next season.
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4 years too late...........what else is new with Yankee GM?
 
With this ownership and management, Yankees
will continue to be in a state of stagnation. They
may be a winning ball club, but it stops right there......
they will not be a legitimate playoff.........World Series
bound team. Always too many question marks. Trashman
thinks he can build a winner with the word "if" as the
constant. The gig is up with this man.
 
How about if they sold the team to an ownership group backed by Joe Torre? Or Mariano Rivera?
 
blgridesagain said:
How about if they sold the team to an ownership group backed by Joe Torre? Or Mariano Rivera?
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None of those two ever talked about wanting to be an owner of a baseball team. Did this really need explaining?
 
Rick2583 said:
None of those two ever talked about wanting to be an owner of a baseball team. Did this really need explaining?
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Trashman should be fired!
And it's plain to see the Yanks would be better off if the Steins sold the team.
Then we can get back to winning championships.
 
blgridesagain said:
Trashman should be fired!
And it's plain to see the Yanks would be better off if the Steins sold the team.
Then we can get back to winning championships.
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This is why posters here think you're slightly tapped in the head, what the hell does this have to do with Jeter wanting to own a team while Torre & Rivera have never mentioned it?
 
cagedlion said:
With this ownership and management, Yankees
will continue to be in a state of stagnation. They
may be a winning ball club, but it stops right there......
they will not be a legitimate playoff.........World Series
bound team. Always too many question marks. Trashman
thinks he can build a winner with the word "if" as the
constant. The gig is up with this man.
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In reality Cashman along with Torre should have been canned after that 2004 debacle. I was shocked that Big George took no action in that direction, the Yankees have not been the same since. In the case of Cashman to this day I consider him dangerous in his assigned/implied tasks and the Steinbrenner Tadpoles dipped in stupidity for keeping him on.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
In reality Cashman along with Torre should have been canned after that 2004 debacle. I was shocked that Big George took no action in that direction, the Yankees have not been the same since. In the case of Cashman to this day I consider him dangerous in his assigned/implied tasks and the Steinbrenner Tadpoles dipped in stupidity for keeping him on.
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I wouldn't have lost any sleep if the Boss fired Torre and Cashman after the 2004 ALCS but in hindsight maybe it was better NOT to fire Torre afterwards - why give Redsox fans and Yankee haters more satisfaction and laughs at the expense of the guy (Torre) who WAS the face of, and the field general of those Championship Yankee teams (which did have previous success vs Boston).
 
...hmmm...so it would have been OK for The Boss to fire Cashman after 2004, but it's not OK for the young Steins to fire him 10 years later?...and people who have been complaining about Cashman for years including last year are called cry babies.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...hmmm...so it would have been OK for The Boss to fire Cashman after 2004, but it's not OK for the young Steins to fire him 10 years later?...and people who have been complaining about Cashman for years including last year are called cry babies.

...yeah, that clears things up...gotta love the consistency.
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It's quite clear if you weren't so anxious to pick a fight with me and somehow try and prove a superior position/stance from you on the Cashman matter while also trying to highlight some kind of inconsistency from me. And while you're still here - I also did not say if I though it would've been the "right" move to make (at that time), if it was made.
I said I wouldn't have lost any sleep over it.
You're wrong - twice!

It was just a comment on '5545's post, I wasn't the one who suggested it.
 
... "picking a fight"?...wow.

...so you saying that you "would not lose sleep" over firing Cashman is not the same thing as saying it would have been OK?



...if you say so... nice backtracking.
 
lol.....its there for everyone to see.
You are a cute one.
Because I wouldn't have been surprised and would've understood one of George's classic over-reactive impulsive maneuvers by dumping Torre AND Cashman after the 2004 ALCS you somehow think I'm contradicting myself regarding Cashman.

Any visitor to this board who doesn't have an axe to grind with me and doesn't have their nose up your butt, and was familiar with classic George can clearly see and understand my line of thinking from posts 24-27 and can also clearly see you tried to make more of it than it was.

You should've just dropped it after my post (#27) but you just couldn't walk away....once again you just needed to be "right", and me "wrong".

Let's move on shall we?
 
...move on to what?..."axe to grind" ?..."picking a fight"?...yeah, if you say so.

...try choosing your words a little more wisely, and don't cry foul when someone points out your hypocrisy.

...and I'm sure that one of the other "monkeys" will agree.
 
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