Notice Oregon bill cracks down on racially motivated 911 calls

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
It discourages people to trust their natural instincts if they feel something isn't right. There will be instances where someone will ignore that due to a law such as this and someone will die as a result of the neglect to report something suspicious.

Its not different from the roving (muslim) migrant rape gangs in Europe. Its happening, but even news agencies can't report on it because it may offend someone or someone will be seen as racist for thinking such bad thoughts!
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This crap about so called roving rape gangs in Europe are overblown. Here's what Der Spiegel had to say about it.
https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...to-refugee-sex-offense-reports-a-1186734.html
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
And people will die as a result.
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Well, in a population of Millions, I suppose anything is possibe. But I say that allowing people to live more out in the open is worth the immensely tiny probability that someone might have a problem because of the new law.
I suspect that no one will have have a significant problem because of the new law.
 
Lanny said:
Well, in a population of Millions, I suppose anything is possibe. But I say that allowing people to live more out in the open is worth the immensely tiny probability that someone might have a problem because of the new law.
I suspect that no one will have have a significant problem because of the new law.
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Just like how US Public schools won't suck because they are flooded with the children of illegals that can't speak english?
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Just like how US Public schools won't suck because they are flooded with the children of illegals that can't speak english?
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That's a twisted outlook. I'm going to pencil you in as a Trump supporter.
 
Lanny said:
There's a better than even chance that no one will die as a result.
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Not really. Criminal activity will rise, since people will be less inclined to report suspicious behavior. When shit goes down, people die, get raped, things stolen, assaulted, etc.
 
Lanny said:
That's a twisted outlook. I'm going to pencil you in as a Trump supporter.
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Its reality.

You wonder why schools in the inner city are overcrowded? Who ends up there in those districts? Illegals.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Not really. Criminal activity will rise, since people will be less inclined to report suspicious behavior. When shit goes down, people die, get raped, things stolen, assaulted, etc.
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You're young and will make other mistakes in judgement.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Its reality.

You wonder why schools in the inner city are overcrowded? Who ends up there in those districts? Illegals.
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You think it's reality but I have a lot more experience than you and know what's real and what isn't.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Not really. Criminal activity will rise, since people will be less inclined to report suspicious behavior. When shit goes down, people die, get raped, things stolen, assaulted, etc.
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There's no doubt in my mind but that you believe that.
 
Lanny said:
You think it's reality but I have a lot more experience than you and know what's real and what isn't.
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I live in LA. Schools are horse shit here. And a large problem is the kids of illegals.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
I live in LA. Schools are horse shit here. And a large problem is the kids of illegals.
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Okay, I'm done with this since it's going nowhere. My time is more valuable than that.
 
MARIS61 said:
Race doesn't play into it
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In any situation that race doesn't play into it, the law won't change anything.

It's only when the person can't provide a reason to find someone suspicious except their race. Like calling the police on black people doing a barbecue in a barbecuing area in a park.

So it sounds like we agree that this is a good step, since your main concern isn't relevant.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Ignore suspicious behvior then. There goes the neighborhood watch!
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Newsflash:

Black people simply existing, isn't suspicious.

The last Neighborhood watch "captain" killed one of us while unarmed for no reason, got off Scot free AFTER he called police.

He never even needed to fucking call them. But since he was "suspicious" now he's dead.

Fuck ANYONE who wants to act like this ain't bullshit.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Not really. Criminal activity will rise, since people will be less inclined to report suspicious behavior.
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People are still encouraged to report suspicious behavior. They're just not allowed to use "being black" as suspicious behavior. No one will die from that change--it'll save police time not having to check in on spurious 911 calls, giving them more time to address actual threats. Seems like a win-win.
 
Minstrel said:
People are still encouraged to report suspicious behavior. They're just not allowed to use "being black" as suspicious behavior. No one will die from that change--it'll save police time not having to check in on spurious 911 calls, giving them more time to address actual threats. Seems like a win-win.
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But "being black" may now actually discourage someone to report the behavior they would normally interpret as suspicious since it may be used against them. Say there is a black prowler who is canvassing a neighborhood. One will be less likely to report the behavior since they can be sued if the person claims he was being targeted for being black (whether that's true or not)
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
But "being black" may now actually discourage someone to report the behavior they would normally interpret as suspicious since it may be used against them.
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It can't be used against them if they actually have a reason beyond "being black" to give. If they don't--it should be used against them and they should feel bad for picking up the phone. They have bad, prejudicial instincts that are tying up police resources and, in your parlance, causing people to die.
 
Minstrel said:
It can't be used against them if they actually have a reason beyond "black" to give. If they don't--it should be used against them and they should feel bad for picking up the phone. They have bad, prejudicial instincts that are tying up police resources.
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Sure it can.

If the person they are reporting is black, they will just say "they targeted me since I'm black" whether its true or not.

Its carte blanche for blacks to loiter, canvas and act suspicious with the protection to be able to sue anyone who calls them out.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
If the person they are reporting is black, they will just say "they targeted me since I'm black" whether its true or not.
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Then the person calling better have a reason for deeming them suspicious, other than skin color. If they don't, again, what's the problem? We don't want people to die because the police are chasing frivolous 911 calls, right?
 
How do you dine and dash at Chipotle? You have to pay for your food at the counter before you get it.
 
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