Notice Oregon bill cracks down on racially motivated 911 calls

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Suspicious is a personal judgement
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I just want people to understand that laws like this often have unintended consequences. Yeah it is shit when someone calls the cops on a family having a BBQ.

It's gonna be worse when crazy white people realize they can't just do that without getting in trouble. By the way I doubt most of the trailer trash that does shit like that follow the news....anyway...

So they add something like "I can't be sure but I THINK the man cooking the hotdogs has a GUN sticking out of his waistband"

Or whatever reason a shifty Nazi feels like making up.

Maybe someone does see something suspicious and decide not to call the cops.

How can we really know?
 
dviss1 said:
A black family in Oakland had the cops called on them for barbecuing in the park.
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Ha! Perhaps what is portrayed here is not what cause the scene.
Oakland Parks have an ordinance against Charcoal Grills in some areas and no barbecuing after dusk. What can the Oregon legislature do about that one?
Having docked in Oakland, it is a little difficult for me to believe a white person in Oakland called 911 about a black person barbecuing in a park. Not likely.
 
MarAzul said:
Ha! Perhaps what is portrayed here is not what cause the scene.
Oakland Parks have an ordinance against Charcoal Grills in some areas and no barbecuing after dusk. What can the Oregon legislature do about that one?
Having docked in Oakland, it is a little difficult for me to believe a white person in Oakland called 911 about a black person barbecuing in a park. Not likely.
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Stop.

That nosy bitch ain't the police.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Ignore suspicious behvior then. There goes the neighborhood watch!
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Is neighborhood watch suppose to be on the lookout for Blacks in their neighborhood or just people committing crimes and abandoned vehicles?
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I just want people to understand that laws like this often have unintended consequences. Yeah it is shit when someone calls the cops on a family having a BBQ.

It's gonna be worse when crazy white people realize they can't just do that without getting in trouble. By the way I doubt most of the trailer trash that does shit like that follow the news....anyway...

So they add something like "I can't be sure but I THINK the man cooking the hotdogs has a GUN sticking out of his waistband"

Or whatever reason a shifty Nazi feels like making up.

Maybe someone does see something suspicious and decide not to call the cops.

How can we really know?
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It's repeat offenders that we should be the most concerned about.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
It's gonna be worse when crazy white people realize they can't just do that without getting in trouble. By the way I doubt most of the trailer trash that does shit like that follow the news....anyway...

So they add something like "I can't be sure but I THINK the man cooking the hotdogs has a GUN sticking out of his waistband"

Or whatever reason a shifty Nazi feels like making up.
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The thing is, I don't think it is "shifty Nazis" who are calling the cops on harmless people. I think it's relatively normal people with unexamined biases who honestly feel something suspicious might be happening because they're seeing black people in contexts that they don't expect to and it makes them uncomfortable in some undefinable way. I don't think they're trying to find loopholes to go after black people--if they were, they could already be making up bullshit reasons to avoid the ridicule. The first time someone like that is hit by a fine for calling the police on people who weren't doing anything wrong, it may cause them (or their friends/family who maybe they mention it to) to re-evaluate and think a bit harder the next time about whether the person/people in question are actually doing anything shady or suspicious.
 
Minstrel said:
The thing is, I don't think it is "shifty Nazis" who are calling the cops on harmless people. I think it's relatively normal people with unexamined biases who honestly feel something suspicious might be happening because they're seeing black people in contexts that they don't expect to and it makes them uncomfortable in some undefinable way. I don't think they're trying to find loopholes to go after black people--if they were, they could already be making up bullshit reasons to avoid the ridicule. The first time someone like that is hit by a fine for calling the police on people who weren't doing anything wrong, it may cause them (or their friends/family who maybe they mention it to) to re-evaluate and think a bit harder the next time about whether the person/people in question are actually doing anything shady or suspicious.
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Some maybe but the pistol packing KOA types are aware of how racist they are.

There are people who call the cops when a power company truck sits in the nieghborhood too long.
 
Lanny said:
Is neighborhood watch suppose to be on the lookout for Blacks in their neighborhood or just people committing crimes and abandoned vehicles?
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Anyone who doesn't belong there or is suspicious. Case in point, every summer, some black kids come and take over our community pool in our complex on some weekends. They throw unauthorized parties, make a bunch of loud music, shit gets vandalized, shit is just trashed. They don't live there and the management puts out memos after the fact as such.

So we aren't allowed to call security or the cops on them? Fuck that.
 
dviss1 said:
Stop.

That nosy bitch ain't the police.
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err, what nosy bitch?

I suppose I best ask you to clarify, which part of a call incident you have objection about?
The caller? or the 911 responder, when it is the police?
 
Lanny said:
Is neighborhood watch suppose to be on the lookout for Blacks in their neighborhood or just people committing crimes and abandoned vehicles?
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In my neighborhood, it is people unknown to the watch. There are 52 residences in the area. All people living here are known to the watch and their vehicles are in the computer. Services and delivery don't usually get attention but others will set off a warning, especially where the owners are know to be gone for a time.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
So we aren't allowed to call security or the cops on them? Fuck that.
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Since when can't you call security or the cops on people who are trespassing and vandalizing/destroying property?

I know you post what you think will "rile up liberals" rather than what you actually believe, but you're not even making your supposed arguments plausible now, my man. That's not well-crafted trolling. I expect better of you.
 
Minstrel said:
Since when can't you call security or the cops on people who are trespassing and vandalizing/destroying property?

I know you post what you think will "rile up liberals" rather than what you actually believe, but you're not even making your supposed arguments plausible now, my man. That's not well-crafted trolling. I expect better of you.
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You say they are black and 911 will be trained to hang up the phone! :Sly:
 
Minstrel said:
Since when can't you call security or the cops on people who are trespassing and vandalizing/destroying property?

I know you post what you think will "rile up liberals" rather than what you actually believe, but you're not even making your supposed arguments plausible now, my man. That's not well-crafted trolling. I expect better of you.
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Well you do know the caller will be open to a plethora of questions now.
Why did you call? Because the kid was Black?
No. Because he is an interloper.
Do you know all the interlopers or just the black ones?
What would be next...:cool2:
 
MarAzul said:
KOA?
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There was some nutty lady working at a KOA campground flashing a gun at a black family recently.

I don't know all the details....didn't seem to get much press. She did look like a crazy racist from what I saw.
 
MarAzul said:
Oh, I think I do understand it.
It affects very little of the state even though it was the legislature that did the deed.
The use of 911 in Portland is to now be used carefully, if the perp is black, don't make the call cause the results are hard to know. Best not to do it.
Alternatives to be discovered. Down side to be discovered.
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Hot tip: just call cops when you are in danger.
 
calvin natt said:
Hot tip: just call cops when you are in danger.
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A cold fact for you. This is a myth. Check out the response time in most Oregon Counties. In mine, the goal is 24 to 36 hours the last time I asked.
Best not have this tactic as part of your family protection plan.
 
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