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Nobody here has really looked at it from the other side. Oregon is the best team and undefeated, so we should feel like we can beat anybody.

I’m sure Ohio State and Texas fans should be up in arms about having to play Oregon next.
 
MickZagger said:
Nobody here has really looked at it from the other side. Oregon is the best team and undefeated, so we should feel like we can beat anybody.

I’m sure Ohio State and Texas fans should be up in arms about having to play Oregon next.
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Bingo
 
Tince said:
What's not to get?

You understand probabilities, right? Of course there can be upsets, and there likely will be a couple if you play 12 games. There is a 12-13 game body of work and tons of advanced metrics that support why Texas is better than Boise St.

If you think these games are all coin flips, lets make some wagers.
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Lol tournaments are made so there aren't coin flips. Coin flips aren't upsets.

They made the bracket. It'll be revised in the future cause it has a lot of holes.

But that's not this year. Win. How people try to argue against something that can't change until after is hysterical. But I'll continue to provide the needed perspective to the delusional!

Dan Lanning and company aren't complaining and they are the ONLY ones who can affect this outcome along with the team across from them. They don't complain. They don't whine. Do you know why yall be doing it? Cause you hate that you can't control it.

Embrace it. We don't have control of it. It's freeing in a way. Have a great night! Glad i could be the needed perspective!
 
Strenuus said:
Lol tournaments are made so there aren't coin flips. Coin flips aren't upsets.

They made the bracket. It'll be revised in the future cause it has a lot of holes.

But that's not this year. Win. How people try to argue against something that can't change until after is hysterical. But I'll continue to provide the needed perspective to the delusional!

Dan Lanning and company aren't complaining and they are the ONLY ones who can affect this outcome along with the team across from them. They don't complain. They don't whine. Do you know why yall be doing it? Cause you hate that you can't control it.

Embrace it. We don't have control of it. It's freeing in a way. Have a great night! Glad i could be the needed perspective!
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Who has made the case the bracket this year should be changed? I certainly haven't, nor have I seen it, anywhere. Nor have I seen anyone say Oregon doesn't need to win 3 games to win the championships. The discussion point is about how the bracket is contructed. Saying "just win", doesn't address that.

Oregon is likely to play 3 games that are more-or-less "coin flip" games given their draw. Other teams, seeded worse, will not. In case you didn't understain the analogy, "coin flip" = roughly a 50/50%, and was not meant literally.

And of course Dan Lanning isn't complaining, why would he do that and put his team at a disadvantage? If I were the coach, I'd say everything he's saying pubically as well.

This is a message board, so luckily what we think can be said out loud without impacting the outcome of the tournament. I didn't know we were supposed to only give the coach speak to make sure the players were motivated properly.
 
The playoff bracket is really messed up. They could rectify it somewhat by doing like the NFL does, and pair round 2 by the lowest seed victor playing the highest seed in the bye. But Oregon seems to have the toughest path of all the bye teams, potentially having to face Ohio State then Texas.


Meanwhile, the loser of the Pac 12 title game will get Boise St in round 2...
 
The inability by some in this thread to acknowledging that seedings in sports is always done by pairing the highest ranked and lowest ranked players/teams in the opening brackets, and the reasons for doing it that way, is baffling. And making the excuse that it's okay because it's the first year of the 12 team format is just plain stupid. As if, gee, too bad there isn't a hundred years of precedent to draw from, SMH. Why would anyone just assume they'll do it right next year after they screwed the pooch so badly this year? The seedings are so unbalanced I can only assume they did it on purpose. Whatever, I am not and I am not going to bitch about it. But some of the arguing here misses the point completely.
 
BBert said:
The inability by some in this thread to acknowledging that seedings in sports is always done by pairing the highest ranked and lowest ranked players/teams in the opening brackets, and the reasons for doing it that way, is baffling. And making the excuse that it's okay because it's the first year of the 12 team format is just plain stupid. As if, gee, too bad there isn't a hundred years of precedent to draw from, SMH. Why would anyone just assume they'll do it right next year after they screwed the pooch so badly this year? The seedings are so unbalanced I can only assume they did it on purpose. Whatever, I am not and I am not going to bitch about it. But some of the arguing here misses the point completely.
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Another great example that there will always be contrarians, no matter how straight forward something is!
 
BBert said:
The inability by some in this thread to acknowledging that seedings in sports is always done by pairing the highest ranked and lowest ranked players/teams in the opening brackets, and the reasons for doing it that way, is baffling. And making the excuse that it's okay because it's the first year of the 12 team format is just plain stupid. As if, gee, too bad there isn't a hundred years of precedent to draw from, SMH. Why would anyone just assume they'll do it right next year after they screwed the pooch so badly this year? The seedings are so unbalanced I can only assume they did it on purpose. Whatever, I am not and I am not going to bitch about it. But some of the arguing here misses the point completely.
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The point is, they could have held out for that. And they probably wouldn't have gotten a 12 team playoff done, Because they had to take conference affiliations into account. And there were some conferences who were flat out not going to be very easy to work with.

So if we had held out to fix those things we'd still be stuck with the 4 team playoff.

I'm just happy we have a 12 team playoff that we can work on improving.
 
Phatguysrule said:
The point is, they could have held out for that. And they probably wouldn't have gotten a 12 team playoff done, Because they had to take conference affiliations into account. And there were some conferences who were flat out not going to be very easy to work with.

So if we had held out to fix those things we'd still be stuck with the 4 team playoff.

I'm just happy we have a 12 team playoff that we can work on improving.
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It's much better.
I'm glad a team like Boise State had a chance to participate.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
The point is, they could have held out for that. And they probably wouldn't have gotten a 12 team playoff done, Because they had to take conference affiliations into account. And there were some conferences who were flat out not going to be very easy to work with.

So if we had held out to fix those things we'd still be stuck with the 4 team playoff.

I'm just happy we have a 12 team playoff that we can work on improving.
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Just because a school wins its conference in basketball doesn't mean they get seeded higher? They could have easily used the same formula but used seeding after championship games. Just dont auto give higher seedings to all conference winners. Thats where they fucked up.
 
Hoopguru said:
Just because a school wins its conference in basketball doesn't mean they get seeded higher? They could have easily used the same formula but used seeding after championship games. Just dont auto give higher seedings to all conference winners. Thats where they fucked up.
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But I think those were already in existing agreements. They would have had to change those agreements or negotiate more to the point that they may not have gotten a 12 team playoff.

That's why they left it alone. At least, that's how I'm interpreting what I'm reading about this.
 
Boomchakalaka2 said:
I do think Alabama should have been selected over SMU
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I'm glad the committee selected SMU. I didn't like the idea of the committee punishing a team for playing in a championship game while rewarding one for sitting at home. I don't think any 3 loss team, who didn't even play in a conference championship game, and lost to two teams who don't even have a winning record, should be in a 12 team playoff.

Alabama used 2 mulligans, they didn't deserve a 3rd.
 
BBert said:
The inability by some in this thread to acknowledging that seedings in sports is always done by pairing the highest ranked and lowest ranked players/teams in the opening brackets, and the reasons for doing it that way, is baffling. And making the excuse that it's okay because it's the first year of the 12 team format is just plain stupid. As if, gee, too bad there isn't a hundred years of precedent to draw from, SMH. Why would anyone just assume they'll do it right next year after they screwed the pooch so badly this year? The seedings are so unbalanced I can only assume they did it on purpose. Whatever, I am not and I am not going to bitch about it. But some of the arguing here misses the point completely.
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I think Joel Klatt said it, but they clearly created the seeding this way to try to keep conference championships. But the conference championships shouldn't have guaranteed a buy. It should have only guaranteed a slot in the playoff. They should have seeded by ranking and then RE-SEEDED after the first round.
 
Hoopguru said:
Just because a school wins its conference in basketball doesn't mean they get seeded higher? They could have easily used the same formula but used seeding after championship games. Just dont auto give higher seedings to all conference winners. Thats where they fucked up.
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Phatguysrule said:
But I think those were already in existing agreements. They would have had to change those agreements or negotiate more to the point that they may not have gotten a 12 team playoff.

That's why they left it alone. At least, that's how I'm interpreting what I'm reading about this.
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I agree to both these points. There wasn’t enough time to fully hash it out so they went the easy route. I also wish the bye teams would also get to host a playoff game, then just copy the 4 team playoff they were already doing using 3 of the new years six bowls that they rotate over the years. Just imagine a playoff game at Autzen. Being the #1 seed and we got robbed of that.
 
Strenuus said:
Lol tournaments are made so there aren't coin flips. Coin flips aren't upsets.

They made the bracket. It'll be revised in the future cause it has a lot of holes.

But that's not this year. Win. How people try to argue against something that can't change until after is hysterical. But I'll continue to provide the needed perspective to the delusional!

Dan Lanning and company aren't complaining and they are the ONLY ones who can affect this outcome along with the team across from them. They don't complain. They don't whine. Do you know why yall be doing it? Cause you hate that you can't control it.

Embrace it. We don't have control of it. It's freeing in a way. Have a great night! Glad i could be the needed perspective!
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Speaking of delusional... fans and the actual team are pretty much never on the same page as far as what they're focused on so why are you having such a continual hissy that they aren't on the same page today? Fans/media are always talking up big picture issues while players/coaches are always focused on the moment in front of them and what they can actually control. Thats exactly whats happening here so why the meltdown? Today the same as every day, what we talk about here doesn't matter one iota to whats actually going to happen. I guess I'm happy for you that you've finally had this epiphany, welcome to reality

STOMP
 
Either this will be known as the greatest playoff run in the history of college football or we have an excuse and reason to blame the committee if we lose.

Win/Win
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Either this will be known as the greatest playoff run in the history of college football or we have an excuse and reason to blame the committee if we lose.

Win/Win
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But if your first option happens, what does Dan Lanning have left to accomplish at a college level? :ghoti:
 
BBert said:
The inability by some in this thread to acknowledging that seedings in sports is always done by pairing the highest ranked and lowest ranked players/teams in the opening brackets, and the reasons for doing it that way, is baffling. And making the excuse that it's okay because it's the first year of the 12 team format is just plain stupid. As if, gee, too bad there isn't a hundred years of precedent to draw from, SMH. Why would anyone just assume they'll do it right next year after they screwed the pooch so badly this year? The seedings are so unbalanced I can only assume they did it on purpose. Whatever, I am not and I am not going to bitch about it. But some of the arguing here misses the point completely.
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Can't change it today. You cant control it. Stop making excuses. Lanning and oregon aren't.
 
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