Game Thread Oregon Ducks at Oregon State Beavers in Civil War 2016, 1pm

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julius said:
He did explain it. If they lost Crosby since game 1 it would be...11? If they lost his backup for any of those games, it tacts on, and so on and so on.
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in that case the 40 is absolutely dwarfed by Oregon's tally and now he's down to 24 which for football is relatively nothing. So Oregon was decimated by injury this year and Sly's point is that the Beavs were able to overcome being pretty healthy to beat them. Got it!

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I firmly believe that Helfrich got the job because he wasn't going to change what Chip had done.

And that was the mistake. Instead of the Ducks looking for the best coach available they wanted another Chip. "Hey, this playing fast thing is really fun! Lets do more of it!"

Helfrich isn't a bad coach but he's not an innovator. Chip took what Bellotti had done and made it better. Helfrich took what Chip had done and made it a gimmick.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I firmly believe that Helfrich got the job because he wasn't going to change what Chip had done.

And that was the mistake. Instead of the Ducks looking for the best coach available they wanted another Chip. "Hey, this playing fast thing is really fun! Lets do more of it!"

Helfrich isn't a bad coach but he's not an innovator. Chip took what Bellotti had done and made it better. Helfrich took what Chip had done and made it a gimmick.
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Yep they wanted to just keep the train rolling but it ran out of steam. Meanwhile the rest of the FBS has innovated. And what was new is now normal.

The Ducks need to find some defensive confluency and their running game again. If their redshirt freshman line can grow strongly together this could stand as a transition year. Be interesting to see who man's the helm in 2017 to say the least.
 
The offense moved the ball and scored pretty well this season especially considering the youth of the OLine and QB. You would figure they'll only be better in year 2. Meanwhile the defense was historically awful lacking playmakers and having just awful luck with health. Sure am hoping a LB or two from the big haul they had last class takes big steps forward this offseason as they've had bad play there for a few seasons now.

Chip always deflected any defensive questions to Aliotti saying he didn't coach D... does Helfrich?

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Canzano, ever the quick hatchet man, gave a pretty good summary of Helfrich's time as head coach of the Ducks:

Helfrich didn't do anything his way after Chip Kelly. His entire approach, from the moment he was given the keys to this powerhouse operation to the instant in which he walked off a four-game winner, felt flat. Helfrich operated like a guy who was watching the neighbor's house while they were on vacation somewhere. He fed the dog. He turned the sprinklers on and off. He picked up the newspaper and mail. But he never made it his house.

The Ducks attempted to run the same offense, wear the same uniforms, practice the same way, but sometime last season it became apparent that everyone else hadn't just ripped them off, but was doing it better. Oregon looks less than ordinary.
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e_blazer said:
Canzano, ever the quick hatchet man, gave a pretty good summary of Helfrich's time as head coach of the Ducks:
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And, as I said, you can tell the players don't.... fear? Respect? I'm not sure what to call it, but there just isn't the same confidence on the team anymore. Chip is a cocky SOB and it showed on the team.
 
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"Bye bye Mark! Now use some of that 11 million dollars and attend some seminars of Meyer's self help gurus."
 
Hopefully, if Chip is available they bring him back. If not, Fleck or Harsin might fit. Frost maybe.....Not sure he's ready
 
I just hope they don't get weak and keep him. His team is young because he's failed miserably at recruiting. The college football world has passed the Ducks by, screaming "on your right" as they fly by.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Helf is a damn good OC... he should go back to doing that.
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I disagree.....going for 1st qtr 2 pt conversions was a disaster and some 4th down and long risks too....I didn't see anything really great out of his offense without a qtr back who could run like Mariotta and score anytime....Helfrich has been exposed without a superstar qtrback
 
Seemed like the wheels came off for the Ducks after that coaching disaster at Nebraska, then got worse before it started to get better. This season falls squarely on the coaches.

Ducks still have the superior talent but the Beavers have the superior coaching, fundamentals, discipline, toughness and desire.

Two teams going in different directions.

Go Beavs!!
 
BBert said:
Seemed like the wheels came off for the Ducks after that coaching disaster at Nebraska, then got worse before it started to get better. This season falls squarely on the coaches.

Ducks still have the superior talent but the Beavers have the superior coaching, fundamentals, discipline, toughness and desire.

Two teams going in different directions.

Go Beavs!!
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The team hasn't been right since last season. That disaster against TCU was when the wheels really came off.
 
Oregon is allowing Helfrich and the rest of the coaching staff to go recruiting.
 
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