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dviss1 said:
Your white fragility is showing. It's ok, it's a healing process.
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lmao...now you've anointed yourself as some sort of message board shrink...should've known better than to get into any sort of exchange with you.


Enjoy screaming at yourself.
 
yankeesince59 said:
No, you gave your version of an answer, ...doesn't mean you're head of The ACME Judgment Company.

Jesus' skin color means dick...and if you're not a christian why do you even care about his skin color and why are you making such a big deal out of nothing?
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Wrong. Skin color SHOULDN'T mean dick, but it is VERY apparent it still does to SO MANY people.....

Including yourself when a month or two ago you tried to accuse someone of presuming you being white, all the while forgetting you posted a picture of your white self....
 
dviss1 said:
Your white fragility is showing. It's ok, it's a healing process.
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And your continual calling out "white people" as if they are a single person is disturbing as well. I don't consider "black people" as one as i look at all people as individuals regardless of race, color or religion. You should try that approach.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What Jesus said about Himself is a whole lot more important than what people say about his pigmentation.
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You just can't take it that your savior's black. So much that they've made him white when you KNOW he wasn't. That's the issue. It's white fragility. That's another monument I can't wait to see torn down.
 
dviss1 said:
You just can't take it that your savior's black. So much that they've made him white when you KNOW he wasn't. That's the issue. It's white fragility. That's another monument I can't wait to see torn down.
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I know you don't care how offensive it is to me for you to claim I have a problem with Jesus' skin color, but I'd like to think my past words and actions would have earned a little more respect from you than that.

Jesus probably was dark-skinned--probably similar in complexion to the Persian family who were my best friends for years. And still I say: His words matter much more than His skin tone.
 
dviss1 said:
You certainly implied it. Saying he was fair skinned.
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I did not say that. Psalms said he was fairer than most men. I said no one really knows. No one should care either.

As for Christianity, there. Are a ton of so called Christians that don’t actually have a relationship with God. That’s what’s truly important
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
Learn the animal then post.
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Am I doing it right?

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Chris Craig said:
The bible is a book, or rather a collection of books written by men. Most of the stories are allegories. They were written many many years after the events told in them were to have happened.

And I not saying there wasn't a Jesus, or that all that stuff in the bible didn't happen. But, between the time events happened and the time they were recorded I am sure some of stories had evolved from what they originally were. Some were based in historical fact but were embellished or exaggerated by the time writers wrote them down.
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IMHO the gospels of the new testament are not the stories of a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, but of a snap shot of a particular time and place in our history, testified to by countless individuals who regarded them as facts and further, facts worthy of recording and the need for sharing through out the world.
the gospel of Mark, the first recorded in the new testament is generally accepted by historians to have happened in the year 70AD, only 27 years after the crucifixion of the subject..
IMHO there were far to many eye witnesses to testify to the events recorded for the authors to get away with anything other than the true telling of the events. the historical oral tradition of the culture in Israel relied on the wrote memorization of the laws and history of the people long before the gospels.
 
The Bible is a collection of supposed accounts made by multiple supposed people and translated to and from multiple languages multiple times...how can anyone be sure to any degree of its accuracy?

For me personally, using someone else's "road map for life" is a no go.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
Jesus' skin color means dick...and if you're not a christian why do you even care about his skin color and why are you making such a big deal out of nothing?
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Let me ask you this: if his skin color truly meant "dick," then why did 'Western Civilzation' just so happen to decide that they would present Jesus as white?
 
yankeesince59 said:
The Bible is a collection of supposed accounts made by multiple supposed people and translated to and from multiple languages multiple times...how can anyone be sure to any degree of its accuracy?

For me personally, using someone else's "road map for life" is a no go.
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proof positive of your free will.
though the door remains open for you if you have a change of heart.
Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.
 
lawai'a said:
proof positive of your free will.
though the door remains open for you if you have a change of heart.
Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.
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No need to preach to me and/or quote scriptures, I'm VERY familiar with The Bible.

I went to church every Sunday from the time I can remember until I was allowed to think for myself and make my own decisions. Again, I don't need someone else's road map.
 
GoBlazersGo said:
Let me ask you this: if his skin color truly meant "dick," then why did 'Western Civilzation' just so happen to decide that they would present Jesus as white?
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I'll answer your question with another question...If it could be proven that Jesus was truly either black or white, would it affect your beliefs one way or the other?
 
GoBlazersGo said:
Let me ask you this: if his skin color truly meant "dick," then why did 'Western Civilzation' just so happen to decide that they would present Jesus as white?
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My guess is that when the Catholic Church and Greek Orthodox Church commissioned paintings and sculptures of Christ, it was thought a white Christ would appeal more to their flocks than a dark Semitic version would. Racism or marketing? Hard to say for sure.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
Ergo, why should his skin color be an issue one way or the other?
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Personally, it's not an issue for me... I don't care if he were proven to be rainbow-colored & had a horn like a unicorn. I really, truly don't care. Ask the people responsible for creating a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus. Clearly it meant a li'l more than "dick" to them, otherwise they wouldn't have whitewashed his appearance.
 
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GoBlazersGo said:
Personally, it's not an issue for me... I don't care if he were proven to be rainbow-colored & had a horn like a unicorn. I really, truly don't care. Ask the people responsible for creating a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus. Clearly it meant a li'l more than "dick" to them, otherwise they wouldn't have whitewashed his appearance.
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This thread/discussion is going in circles....If it's not an issue to you, why should it be an issue to others?

You might want to consider the context of who and what I was originally responding to in this thread;

http://www.sportstwo.com/posts/4969371/
 
@dviss1
Hey Ive been thinking maybe Im not doing a good job of compartmentalizing the difference between BLM the movement and BLM the organization. Ive said numerous times there is a lot about the movement Im for. Even defunding the police to an extent. Ive heard some arguing for abolishing them completely, not on board with that unless there is some sort of replacement plan for law enforcement / peace officers - though with (a lot) more accountability then they have now. - Giving Black people equity, and equality and not having systems intended to hold them back of course I think those are good ideas. I know that politically many of the objectives of the BLM organization you probably agree with more than I do just because we have different perspectives. Using it as a front to fund Bidens campaign, the fact its a not a charity and a private entity meaning they can do whatever they want with funds, some of that, Im not on board with. I was talking to some Black and a couple Asian friends of mine, some are for whats going on some are against, but I think the point I really took away is the movement itself, empowering black communities, being able to say Black Lives Matter you dont have to be on board with all the political things to recognize that there are very good things coming from the protests and I support many of them.

Sorry if what I said came off as combative or offensive. I do support the movement overall, even if I think some of the political aspects arent really for me.
 
God damn y’all really derailed this thread into some weird religious shit lol back to the main point...

changing the name of the game is still dumb, and always will be dumb, but it’s gonna happen, so what can you do?
 
In Europe during medieval or renaissance times artists were commissioned by the church to paint portraits of deities....often they used themselves or whover was around as models to paint from...Da Vinci and Rembrandt and Michaelangelo painted depictions of people using their own face and mirrors to copy...I think it's as simple as that...many of these artists had little exposure to any people who weren't Anglican in feature...see the Sistine Chapel...or the sculptures of David, etc....it's how they painted..I doubt there was a conspiracy about it at all anymore than them depicting God as a man
 
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yankeesince59 said:
Jesus' skin color means dick...and if you're not a christian why do you even care about his skin color and why are you making such a big deal out of nothing?
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Utter bullshit. If it didn't mean anything why is he MADE white?

It's a big deal to me because when black people pray, they have to close their eyes and call on a white saviour... built on a lie...

Imagine that. Being so conditioned....
 
dviss1 said:
Utter bullshit. If it didn't mean anything why is he MADE white?

It's a big deal to me because when black people pray, they have to close their eyes and call on a white saviour... built on a lie...

Imagine that. Being so conditioned....
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To borrow a page out of your sphincter tightening playbook of responses, "IDGAF" about what you think. And IDGAF what color Jesus was, and not sure why you do.
 
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