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This effectively takes OKC out of the Ben Gordon sweepstakes too. But they will have money in 2010 still to sign their free agent now, instead of 2009 and 2010. It'll be interesting to see what the Thunder can do. The Ben Gordon scenario was based on that they could overpay a guy to come play for them. Now, they will have to stack up against half the league having capspace competing for guys.

Of course if they land Blake Griffin, what they do in 2010 free agency won't matter all too much.
 
Nice move for the Thunder. If I'm Chris Paul, however, I start making noise about wanting to get the hell out of the Big Easy.
 
Ford just said that Gordon would sign for the 7-8M OKC's going to have. I don't pretend to know the Bulls' situation too well... would Gordon go somewhere else for the same money just to say "screw you" to CHI?
 
Денг Гордон said:
This effectively takes OKC out of the Ben Gordon sweepstakes too. But they will have money in 2010 still to sign their free agent now, instead of 2009 and 2010. It'll be interesting to see what the Thunder can do. The Ben Gordon scenario was based on that they could overpay a guy to come play for them. Now, they will have to stack up against half the league having capspace competing for guys.

Of course if they land Blake Griffin, what they do in 2010 free agency won't matter all too much.
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They're still going to have around 8 million in cap room to spend this summer ... that's more than enough to get Gordon (and don't give me any shit about him demanding 10+ million a year; no one is going to pay that much for an undersized shooting guard in this economic climate).
 
Nikolokolus said:
The Hornets now have no legitimate defender in the post ... they may squeak into the playoffs based on David West and Chris Paul's ability, but they are now a perennial one-and-done team until and unless they can get a legit center.
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Agreed, wow, I cant believe this trade went down. Is the NO owner hurting that much? NO wasnt doing as good this year but all you need is health and a streak in the playoffs. This team was far from rebuild mode. Whatever, Lakers play NO later this week! :ghoti:
 
Nikolokolus said:
They're still going to have around 8 million in cap room to spend this summer ... that's more than enough to get Gordon (and don't give me any shit about him demanding 10+ million a year; no one is going to pay that much for an undersized shooting guard in this economic climate).
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Chad Ford's wrong. They're going to have around $54 million in salary going into free agency when you factor in their draft picks. The cap will be at $59 million at most (it was at $58.68 this year I believe)...and I even have my doubts about it being at $59 million.

So basically the Thunder can offer Ben Gordon the MLE (because the MLE will be more than the amount they have in capspace).

The Bulls can easily outdue that, because they have the 10.5% raises. Thunder can only give 8% raises.

If Gordon does a screw you deal, I can guarantee you it will be to play with the Knicks. It'll be a 3 year MLE deal. Gordon will be showcased in D'Antoni's offense, probably average 25 PPG. Then they will use Gordon and Duhon to pitch to 2010 free agents (here is your perfect third option in Gordon, and here's a point guard who will get you the ball), and then after the Knicks obtain his bird rights, they will reward him with a big contract. (which will of course be post 2010).
 
I always figured the Blazers, Jazz and Hornets were the teams of the future out West. But it's now looking like Oklahoma City and Portland.

I bet the league is just drooling over all those great TV ratings. :)
 
Денг Гордон said:
Chad Ford's wrong. They're going to have around $54 million in salary going into free agency when you factor in their draft picks. The cap will be at $59 million at most (it was at $58.68 this year I believe)...and I even have my doubts about it being at $59 million.

So basically the Thunder can offer Ben Gordon the MLE (because the MLE will be more than the amount they have in capspace).

The Bulls can easily outdue that, because they have the 10.5% raises. Thunder can only give 8% raises.

If Gordon does a screw you deal, I can guarantee you it will be to play with the Knicks. It'll be a 3 year MLE deal. Gordon will be showcased in D'Antoni's offense, probably average 25 PPG. Then they will use Gordon and Duhon to pitch to 2010 free agents (here is your perfect third option in Gordon, and here's a point guard who will get you the ball), and then after the Knicks obtain his bird rights, they will reward him with a big contract. (which will of course be post 2010).
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You're thinking FA signing only. Being under the cap by $6-8 mil can leave enough room for a decent S&T.
 
mook said:
I always figured the Blazers, Jazz and Hornets were the teams of the future out West. But it's now looking like Oklahoma City and Portland.

I bet the league is just drooling over all those great TV ratings. :)
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Don't forget the Spurs. Tim Duncan can play until he's like 40 with no effect in his production.
 
yuyuza1 said:
LOL.

We do have Oden, you know. Chandler is nothing to worry about.
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Actually, if I were building my team to compete with Portland in 2 years, Chandler is exactly the kind of piece I'd add. Got to give them props for getting a critical piece they were missing.
 
This paves the way for the inevitable Chris Paul for Channing Frye, Shavlik Randolph, and Sergio Rodriguez trade.
 
Aside from Green being more of a PF than SG, then yeah. Add Harden in at SG?
 
BrianFromWA said:
Aside from Green being more of a PF than SG, then yeah. Add Harden in at SG?
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or if they sign Ben Gordon, or perhaps even go after a "real" point guard and let Westbrook play shooting guard.

... they're gonna be a tough out for a long while to come.
 
MIXUM said:
wow...

westbrook - pg
green - sg
durant - sf
09 draft pick
chandler - c

thats a playoff team next year with depth added. add them to the list
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Green plays power forward (according to espn's depth chart).

PG - Westbrook
SG - Kyle Weaver
SF - Durant
PF - Green
C - Chandler
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F/C - Krstic
G - whoever
G/F - Wilkins


Not a bad outlook for next year, little lacking on depth though.



There's about .0000001% chance that its even discussed now (and it wasn't much more than that before the Chandler trade), but I think that, if they wanted to, the Thunder could still land Stoudemire (no, I will not shut up about Amare and OKC):

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5018529

One expiring deal to Phoenix, one 2010 expiring, and Collison, and toss in a couple of those 1st rounders; Amare to the Thunder. It might work, it might not, depends on if Sarvey-poo is enticed enough by the two 1st rounders in spite of the one medium-sized expiring.


PG: Westbrook
SG: Weaver
SF: Durant
PF: Stoudemire
C: Chandler
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F: Green
F/C: Krstic
G: Weaver
F/C: Ibaka
G/F: Wilkins



Dayum.
 
Денг Гордон said:
Don't forget the Spurs. Tim Duncan can play until he's like 40 with no effect in his production.
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Heh. People have been predicting his downfall almost as long as Fidel Castro, so you won't catch me betting against him.

I just don't think the Spurs can successfully rinse-and-repeat the Duncan/Parker/Ginobili show forever. Great teams like the Billups Pistons and Shaq Lakers and even the Jordan Bulls can only hold it together for only so long. Somebody gets injured, somebody has a precipitous decline, somebody's ego gets out of hand....

The Spurs have been milking a great formula for 10 years now. (8 years, if you count the current Parker/Ginobili iteration). I'm envious. But history shows that even really great franchises have a hard time keeping that kind of a run going.
 
mook said:
Actually, if I were building my team to compete with Portland in 2 years, Chandler is exactly the kind of piece I'd add. Got to give them props for getting a critical piece they were missing.
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In only his third game as a pro, Oden put up a double-double in 24 mins while holding Chandler to 2 points.

Although he certainly makes them more formidable in the front court, Chandler should not directly affect us in any way. That said, this was a shrewd move by an up-and-coming GM that not only shows his smarts but also the commitment by their owner.
 
I'm suprised that nobody has suggested that the Hornets now want to trade us CP3 and Peja for RLEC, Bayless, Outlaw, . . .
 
You know I was just looking at CP3's contract situation. He is getting 4.5mil this year and then it jumps up to 13.75mil next year. How do trades like that go down? Is NO just fucked if they want to trade him now? Do they have to wait until summer to trade him at his 13mill value?

NO Salary situation link
 
DaRizzle said:
You know I was just looking at CP3's contract situation. He is getting 4.5mil this year and then it jumps up to 13.75mil next year. How do trades like that go down? Is NO just fucked if they want to trade him now? Do they have to wait until summer to trade him at his 13mill value?

NO Salary situation link
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It's that poison pill thing... I still don't completely understand how it works.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's that poison pill thing... I still don't completely understand how it works.
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I think you average all his remaining salary figures for each remaining year of the contract, and that becomes his trade value for whatever team is taking him on.


Ex for random player: 4 mil one year, 6 mil next year, 7 mil next year, 11 mil final year. Averages out to 7 mil, that would be the player's salary figure (per year) for trade purposes.


I could very well be wrong though.
 
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