OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games (3 Viewers)

[maxiep]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

I think the difference is they've been looking for an excuse to get rid of Sterling. Also, trading owners doesn't mess with the league as they're invisible.

Let's put it this way: If Kevin Love, Dirk Nowitski or any other white star said those things, they would have fined him, made him attend "sensitivity" training and suspended him for a few games.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Damn.............. yowza and shes bangin that old wrinkley dude? wow.

Yowza? Really? She looks like she was a practice dummy for first-year plastic surgery students...

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Then all we'd need is for that fool Shaq to buy a Western Conference team and it will be smooth sailing to the WCF for the foreseable future.

Shaqramento is already here!

 

[KeepOnRollin]

They only need a 3/4 vote to kick him out. I don't think he's going to have much choice in the matter.

I not a math major but 24 out of 29 seems to be more then 3/4 vote. I don't see it being hard to get that many though.

 

[Eastoff]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

Wrong... Voting for "prop 8" is just as detrimental to the "good name" of the NBA. The line drawn is black and white. The moment you go gray, then everything is questionable.

I'd say the biggest difference is that an owner can keep his vote secret.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

How about starting with an actual english sentence - ooooh, burn. OK, not really. I finally figured out what you meant. I will be kind and assume you haven't made a poll before. The system posts your thread, and then allows you to make a poll so there is a delay. In this case, I wanted to word the poll semi-carefully so the delay was actually 3 or 4 minutes.

How about making a poll is you're going to ask for one?

 

[Eastoff]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

Certainly there is a difference in degree. But, I can almost guarantee that this will come up again in the context of a Christian owner and support of heterosexual marriage. Just a matter of time.

Let's stick to the real controversies for now, and keep the agitating language on other topics to the OT section.

 

[mook]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

In Sterling's mind, I think he's really already lost. He could have sold the team for a ridiculous amount of money at any point in the past 2 years. But what would he spend it on that he can't already buy? It's not about the money. It's about the celebrity, the fun, the excitement, the prestige....the relevance. Relevance is a big factor when you are 81.

He's a joke now, and he must know it. Even if he weren't banned from attending, there's no way he'd ever show his face at a Clippers game anyway. Even if he keeps the team, where's the joy in showing up to games and constantly having fans, players and other owners glare at you and mutter "asshole" under their breath?

 

[Mr. J]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

Wrong... Voting for "prop 8" is just as detrimental to the "good name" of the NBA. The line drawn is black and white. The moment you go gray, then everything is questionable.

How can it be as detrimental to the NBA if 2 out of 3 states ban gay marriage? As a country we have not reached a point where a vast majority of people are in support of same sex marriage. I think current polling shows around 51% of people in favor and 40% not in favor. However, there are no laws which, on their face, are explicitly racist, although they may have a disparate impact on particular groups. The social opprobrium attached to being racist and being homophobic aren't the same.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

If he gets at or below market value for the team and that happens semiquickly.

Not sure how B can happen without C happening in your poll.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Yowza? Really? She looks like she was a practice dummy for first-year plastic surgery students...

Agreed. She is an better then ok pull for a 81 year old man unless he is a multi-bazillion-aire in which case Sterling must have picked the first one that offered.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

If he gets at or below market value for the team and that happens semiquickly.

At market value should be at least a billion. That is a lot of dough. I think it goes even over market value due to the way sales have gone lately. SEA guy would love to buy the team even if he couldn't move it right away.

 

[riverman]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

It is over now. The NBA owners have the clause built in with 2/3 majority and the support of the players association as well as the fanbase. He's toast.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

At market value should be at least a billion. That is a lot of dough. I think it goes even over market value due to the way sales have gone lately. SEA guy would love to buy the team even if he couldn't move it right away.

This is what I think happens too.

Chris Hanson is gonna jump on this.

I really can't wait for a Sonics-Blazers rivalry with the amount of stars both teams will have... Almost would be as good as if the Sonics never left.

 

[riverman]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Easy answer to the thread, no.

 

[Mr. J]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Mark Cuban can bitch all he wants but these things happen all the time.

Example: A corporation can vote out the owner from handling the "day to day" operations, because that owner has tarnished the "good name" of the company. The same is said about the "NBA" kicking out an owner they feel has tarnished the brand "NBA".

And this isn't some "legal" court preceding here. It is an entity that nba owners and players all have a stake in. So if the Owners and Players feel that Sterling "staying an owner" will tarnish the "good name" of the "nab", then they have every right to kick him out.

Agreed. I always thought the NBA to have laws which allow it to protect itself from behavior which will tarnish its name. Associating with Sterling has drastic financial consequences and the NBA has a right to protect itself.

 

[maxiep]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

How about starting with an actual english sentence - ooooh, burn. OK, not really. I finally figured out what you meant. I will be kind and assume you haven't made a poll before. The system posts your thread, and then allows you to make a poll so there is a delay. In this case, I wanted to word the poll semi-carefully so the delay was actually 3 or 4 minutes.

Ah, that's what happened. It looks like I was too quick on the draw. I've made a couple of polls, but not frequently enough to know in what order it appears.

As for my typo...oops. Obviously, I meant to write "if" instead of "is".

 

[Wheels]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Has a player who committed an actual crime ever been fined this much and suspended for life? Ridiculous double standard.

wouldnt Sterling's alleged transgressions and Whatever Player(s) you are referring to, have to had similar transgressions for it to be a double standard?

 

[blue32]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Yep. Anal rape, illegal drugs, battery of a woman=ok, just dare dare say you dont like black people.

Well, when you put it that way.......

 

[magnifier661]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Agreed. I always thought the NBA to have laws which allow it to protect itself from behavior which will tarnish its name. Associating with Sterling has drastic financial consequences and the NBA has a right to protect itself.

Yeah man... And the last thing we need are a bunch of NBA players sitting out the playoffs or "regular season" because they don't feel like the commish didn't back them.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Has a player who committed an actual crime ever been fined this much and suspended for life? Ridiculous double standard.

I feel terrible for Donald

 

[RR7]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

Devos, owner of the magic has been a big donor opposing gay marriage.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

What the commish sent to all fans of the nba. Just received mine via email...

Dear Fans,

This afternoon I announced that, following the completion of a thorough investigation into an audio recording obtained by TMZ, I banned Donald Sterling for life from any association with the Clippers or the NBA, effective immediately. Mr. Sterling may not attend any NBA games or practices, be present at any Clippers office or facility, or participate in any business or player personnel decisions involving the team. I also fined Mr. Sterling $2.5 million, the maximum amount allowed under the NBA Constitution. These funds will be donated to charitable organizations dedicated to anti-discrimination and tolerance efforts that will be jointly selected by the NBA and its Players Association.

The views expressed by Mr. Sterling are deeply offensive and hurtful. I am extremely proud of this great league's diverse, respectful and inclusive culture, and we will not allow one individual's intolerant views to define us. Let me be clear: Mr. Sterling's views have no place in the NBA.

This has been a painful episode for all members of the NBA family. I very much appreciate your understanding during this process. I also want to express my thanks and admiration to Coach Doc Rivers, Chris Paul, and the entire Clippers organization for their professionalism throughout this matter, and to Chris and Mayor Kevin Johnson for their leadership and partnership on behalf of the Players Association.

And now I am eager to turn the spotlight back where it belongs: on the game we all love and on these thrilling playoffs, which have been some of the most exciting basketball I've seen in my 22 years with the league. I hope you enjoy the rest of the playoffs and The Finals.

Sincerely,

 

[crandc]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

No, this is not thought police or slippery slope. And it has nothing to do with any vote, which is a private matter. Nor has it anything to do with anyone's religion (not every Christian is antigay, but please, can we stick to the issue?)

It is an extreme measure taken in an extreme case against an owner with a long history. Had Sterling just made the awful remarks, without the lawsuit and other past crap, he'd probably get away with a fine.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Re: How would you protest?

Can't remember where but someone already posted this: http://www.nba.com/clippers/one

Now the Blazers are getting into the act: https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hph...99_10152178685946137_926593624910056535_o.jpg

 

[magnifier661]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

How can it be as detrimental to the NBA if 2 out of 3 states ban gay marriage? As a country we have not reached a point where a vast majority of people are in support of same sex marriage. I think current polling shows around 51% of people in favor and 40% not in favor. However, there are no laws which, on their face, are explicitly racist, although they may have a disparate impact on particular groups. The social opprobrium attached to being racist and being homophobic aren't the same.

Because it sets a precedent that is beyond "law". Think about it bro. Is it against the law for a white man to yell out racial slurs? Yet an NBA owner is being forced out, for not breaking the law. So what Cuban is proclaiming is the same. The nature in which he was forced out has nothing to do with 30% of the States voting for it. Hell 0% of the states in the USA says its against the law to say racial slurs.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

No, this is not thought police or slippery slope. And it has nothing to do with any vote, which is a private matter. Nor has it anything to do with anyone's religion (not every Christian is antigay, but please, can we stick to the issue?)

It is an extreme measure taken in an extreme case against an owner with a long history. Had Sterling just made the awful remarks, without the lawsuit and other past crap, he'd probably get away with a fine.

Exactly

 

[Eastoff]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Here is video of the press conference.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Easy answer to the thread, no.

Apparently, it's not easy for 9 of 11 of us

My guess is that Sterling, like the rest of us, doesn't like being told what to do. If that's the case, then selling the team for its current market value is losing, even if a billion dollars seems like a lot to all of us reading this board.

 

[mook]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

But Sterling's children can keep the case going.

If Sterling is dead, who cares that he was a racist fuck when he was alive. At that point maybe the NBA drops the whole thing. The media, fans and players won't care at that point.