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Will Sterling be owner of the Clips on Nov. 1?

  • yes, he'll still be owner (Sterlng Wins, at least temporarily)

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • no, he'll be ousted (Sterling Loses)

    Votes: 8 25.0%

  • no, but he'll make an exorbitant amount of dough in the sale (Sterling basically wins)

    Votes: 18 56.3%
  • Total voters
    32
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

EL PRESIDENTE said:
Thought crimes! Cuban is right on this. You can't just kick him out because of his thoughts and seize his business due to his ideology. Let the market decide his fate.
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Yeah, I find it hard to believe Sterling would even need to be forced out as opposed to selling the team on his own. It'll never again be anywhere close to it's current value as a franchise as long as he's the owner. He's losing sponsors by the truck load, players won't sign with the team and current players may demand to be traded, his coach sounds like he wouldn't return, the fans will quit coming. This is a no-brainer, if Sterling has the slightest bit of intelligence.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

My prediction is that Silver will announce he's suspended him indefinitely while a thorough investigation is done.

There's supposed to be a press conference today. We'll find out soon.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/04/28/nba-statement-sterling-invesitgation/index.html

NBA statement regarding Donald Sterling investigation

Official Release
Posted Apr 29, 2014 8:48 AM

NEW YORK -- The following statement has been issued by Mike Bass, Executive Vice President, Communications, regarding the investigation involving Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling:

"The NBA will hold a press conference tomorrow [Tuesday] to make an announcement about its investigation involving Clippers owner Donald Sterling. Additional details will be announced."
 
Re: How would you protest?

Magic should be the honorary PA announcer and/or sing the national anthem.


I just hope Hedo Turkeyglue doesn't do black face in some misguided attempt at solidarity.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

2PM EST
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

HailBlazers said:
Only Takes 75% Owners’ Vote to Kick Donald Sterling Out of NBA
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Did you read the last sentence? The best potential claim that Munson could come up with was "assert that Sterling’s statements (read: stuff said in private, unrelated to his ownership of the team) violated the constitution’s requirements to conduct business on a “reasonable” and “ethical” level." The notion that private requests to his mistress constitute "unethical business practice" is so ridiculous as to be completely unfathomable to me.
 
Re: How would you protest?

Ok, all this stuff about Magic Johnson being involved. Isn't it kind of weird since he was always a Laker?
 
Re: How would you protest?

I think every single white ticket holder to the game should give their ticket to a black person they know or to an organization that will distribute the tickets to poor black kids.
 
Re: How would you protest?

Have Hedo Turkoglu and Reddick go out in blackface.
 
Re: How would you protest?

I think as a start, they should wear their road blue, Los Angeles jerseys, as opposed to home ones that say Clippers, symbolically, playing for LA and their fans, not for Clippers organization and Sterling.
 
Re: How would you protest?

The Halftime show is the BET awards.
 
Re: How would you protest?

New Clippers jerseys with the logo in Comic Sans
 
Re: How would you protest?

RR7 said:
I think as a start, they should wear their road blue, Los Angeles jerseys, as opposed to home ones that say Clippers, symbolically, playing for LA and their fans, not for Clippers organization and Sterling.
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I like this one a lot.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

The more I've been reading and hearing about the issue, the more uncomfortable I am becoming with the witch hunt. I am a believer in the invisible hand. If you disagree with what Donald Sterling said, then don't do business with him. Move out of his apartments. Don't follow the Clippers. But do it as an individual. The collective actions of millions of individuals will punish him in a way the NBA never could.

On a separate note, shame on President Obama for equating our issues with those in Malaysia, where they have real repression and political prisoners. The reaction in this country has been one of overwhelming condemnation of what Donald Sterling said. That is not the mark of a country "struggling" with anything. The idea we're a racist country is an insult to the vast majority of people who don't have a racist bone in their body. Twice a majority of voters elected a half-black president. The biggest television personality is a black woman. The wealthiest golfer--a lily white sport if there ever was one--is black, and earned most of his money through endorsements. The most popular form of music is largely created by black artists. And the biggest selling brand of shoes is based around a former black player.

Let's not focus on the crazies and the race hustlers. We're a country of 315MM people. Of course we can always point to individual examples of racism because with that many people, you're always able to find a whackjob. However, we are arguably the most racially tolerant country on the planet, certainly more than any in "enlightened" Europe.

The idea our President can't see that simple fact and defend it is an insult to everyone who voted for him and the vast majority of Americans who do their best to treat everyone equally.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Cuban is absolutely correct.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

maxiep said:
The more I've been reading and hearing about the issue, the more uncomfortable I am becoming with the witch hunt. I am a believer in the invisible hand. If you disagree with what Donald Sterling said, then don't do business with him. Move out of his apartments. Don't follow the Clippers. But do it as an individual. The collective actions of millions of individuals will punish him in a way the NBA never could.

On a separate note, shame on President Obama for equating our issues with those in Malaysia, where they have real repression and political prisoners. The reaction in this country has been one of overwhelming condemnation of what Donald Sterling said. That is not the mark of a country "struggling" with anything. The idea we're a racist country is an insult to the vast majority of people who don't have a racist bone in their body. Twice a majority of voters elected a half-black president. The biggest television personality is a black woman. The wealthiest golfer--a lily white sport if there ever was one--is black, and earned most of his money through endorsements. The most popular form of music is largely created by black artists. And the biggest selling brand of shoes is based around a former black player.

Let's not focus on the crazies and the race hustlers. We're a country of 315MM people. Of course we can always point to individual examples of racism because with that many people, you're always able to find a whackjob. However, we are arguably the most racially tolerant country on the planet, certainly more than any in "enlightened" Europe.

The idea our President can't see that simple fact and defend it is an insult to everyone who voted for him and the vast majority of Americans who do their best to treat everyone equally.
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"former black player," lol.

Sorry, maxie, that just cracked me up...
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

PtldPlatypus said:
Did you read the last sentence? The best potential claim that Munson could come up with was "assert that Sterling’s statements (read: stuff said in private, unrelated to his ownership of the team) violated the constitution’s requirements to conduct business on a “reasonable” and “ethical” level." The notion that private requests to his mistress constitute "unethical business practice" is so ridiculous as to be completely unfathomable to me.
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Fathom this: His mistress is part of the Clippers brand. As an owner you are 100% responsible for how that brand is represented to the public. It is unequivocally related.

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Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

EL PRESIDENTE said:
Thought crimes! Cuban is right on this. You can't just kick him out because of his thoughts and seize his business due to his ideology. Let the market decide his fate.

Alexander's idea is fucking stupid as well.
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Sterling is a franchisee, it's not "his" business, so much as his business is part of a larger whole, whose brand and image are potentially being damaged by the actions of one member.

I say let him keep his team, but eject the Clippers from the league and make them an independent entity. This might also void all of his current contracts that exist outside of the collective bargaining agreement.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

HailBlazers said:
Fathom this: His mistress is part of the Clippers brand. As an owner you are 100% responsible for how that brand is represented to the public. It is unequivocally related.

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Damn.............. yowza and shes bangin that old wrinkley dude? wow.
 
What I'd like to hear Silver say

I would like for him to say that--if these statements are true--it's not for the other NBA owners to throw him out of the league. This is a league by and for the fans. The fans should decide the punishment.

There are two teams in Los Angeles, and the fans can choose which one to support. The fans can see which companies continue to support the Clippers and can decide whether or not to patronize those companies. The fans can decide whether or not to spend their money on those games and that apparel.

Any result in declining revenue from the Clipper franchise year over year will be calculated in any revenue sharing and will be directly reduced from the Clipper franchise and hence will be reduced from Mr. Sterling's payout.

As for the Clipper players and employees, I think the NBA should allow them freedom to speak their mind about their employer and defend them against any fines Mr. Sterling may choose to levy. If there are any limits on what the players may say that is in their contract, those clauses will be temporarily suspended for the Clipper players.

In the interim, Mr. Sterling is suspended from the franchise indefinitely until a thorough investigation can be done. I would put that investigation on a slow boat, so it lasts until he dies.

Anything that the NBA discovers in their investigation will be shared with any team sponsor as well as made public. If the sponsors decide to sue to end their sponsorship agreements with the team, the NBA will not stand with the Clippers.

Starting next year, all national telecasts in which the Clippers play will be cancelled and replaced with another team. Furthermore, no Clipper uniform will appear in any NBA commercial.

If Mr. Sterling chooses to sell the team, the NBA will assist him in any way possible and these sanctions will end.

In other words, let the fans decide the punishment. The owners simply circle the wagons and leave him out of the circle. What happens to Donald Sterling is none of their concern.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

maxiep said:
The more I've been reading and hearing about the issue, the more uncomfortable I am becoming with the witch hunt. I am a believer in the invisible hand. If you disagree with what Donald Sterling said, then don't do business with him. Move out of his apartments. Don't follow the Clippers. But do it as an individual. The collective actions of millions of individuals will punish him in a way the NBA never could.

On a separate note, shame on President Obama for equating our issues with those in Malaysia, where they have real repression and political prisoners. The reaction in this country has been one of overwhelming condemnation of what Donald Sterling said. That is not the mark of a country "struggling" with anything. The idea we're a racist country is an insult to the vast majority of people who don't have a racist bone in their body. Twice a majority of voters elected a half-black president. The biggest television personality is a black woman. The wealthiest golfer--a lily white sport if there ever was one--is black, and earned most of his money through endorsements. The most popular form of music is largely created by black artists. And the biggest selling brand of shoes is based around a former black player.

Let's not focus on the crazies and the race hustlers. We're a country of 315MM people. Of course we can always point to individual examples of racism because with that many people, you're always able to find a whackjob. However, we are arguably the most racially tolerant country on the planet, certainly more than any in "enlightened" Europe.

The idea our President can't see that simple fact and defend it is an insult to everyone who voted for him and the vast majority of Americans who do their best to treat everyone equally.
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Well we have learned to love Black people but we still hate Mexicans so at least we still got that going for us. Otherwise I agree with you for once.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

HailBlazers said:
Fathom this: His mistress is part of the Clippers brand. As an owner you are 100% responsible for how that brand is represented to the public. It is unequivocally related.
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Again, the terms are "ethical" and "reasonable", specifically in relation to how he "conducts business". You're suggesting that those terms can be stretched to include "representation to the public", ie, "public image". That would be an absolutely horrible precedent to set.

Mark Cuban criticizing the officials too much? Giving the league a black eye--strip him of his franchise.
Dan Gilbert issues a statement criticizing Lebron leaving Cleveland? Makes him look petty--strip him of his franchise
Mikhail Prokhorov spends $100M+ on a bunch of aging vets? Makes him look stupid--strip him of his franchise
Joshua Harris allows moves to blatantly tank? Put a bad product on the floor--strip him of his franchise
Maloof Brothers have the Kings miss the playoffs 9 years in a row?--strip them of their franchise

There are myriad ways that an owner can cause his franchise to look bad, without those constituting unethical or unreasonable business practices. Even when they have--such as the Wolves colluding with Joe Smith to circumvent the salary cap--the league never attempted to strip an owner of his franchise. To do it now, in light of prior precedent, would be unsupportable legally.
 
Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Does anyone else hope that Silver comes out to pick a bail of cotton as his entrance music for the press conference?
 
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