OT - Clippers Owner Donald Sterling to GF -- Don't Bring Black People to My Games (2 Viewers)

[blue9]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Wow - what a difference a commissioner makes! From Stern to Silver - night & day! Best 1st round of the Playoffs, ever. Most parity in the league in decades. Kicking Sterling to the curb.
I know Silver isn't responsible for everything, but it's pretty awesome that all these great things are happening under his watch. He's gotta feel like Milhouse:
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[Further]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

I'm pretty impressed with the swiftness and strength of Silvers ax.

 

[Sinobas]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

The logical slope here after this if the league forces him out:

1. What if an owner does not support same sex marriage. That is equal to bigotry and hatred and therefore he should lose his franchise.

2. What if an owner does not recognize that gender is a social construct. That is equal to bigotry and hatred and therefore he should lose his franchise.

and so forth and so on.

I agree, you know there are bound to be plenty of players that are racist, sexist, hateful of homosexuals etc....should we kick them out of the league? I think the NBAs harsh response was made out of fear of being accused of being "soft on racism".

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

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Hit the road, Jack..... And dontcha come back no more no more no more.......

 

[BBert]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Not at all. He agrees with the ban, but not with the forced sale. I think he's been consistent.

My take too. Cuban said you can't take someone's property over something they said in presumed private that was not business related.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

There are bylaws I'm sure that have "exit strategies" for events like this. Buying into the league, I'm sure you must sign the bylaws. So I am sure if the owners vote, the price can't come out from "thin air". Most likely "Fair Market Value" will be the wording...

He'd sue for being to sell below market value. His sale would be "distressed."

 

[BBert]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

OK then.

Can we get back to basketball now?

I know the networks are not going to want to let this die down, shit like this sells, and selling is all that matters.

But, can we get back to basketball now?

 

[Mote]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

I'm pretty impressed with the swiftness and strength of Silvers ax.

I am thinking Silver came down with the swift and strong sanctions to get all focus back on the playoffs themselves.

 

[Reep]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

This decision really bothers me. Sterling is pretty much a nothing of a person in my mind and I will be glad to see him no longer associated with the NBA--if it happens. But, where do you now draw the line? If it comes out that Joe Lacob (Warriors owner) voted yes on Prop 8, does he have to sell his team? Many would argue that it is just as offensive as what Sterling did.

I also would rather see this dealt with by the fans and sponsors withdrawing money and forcing Sterling to sell. Clearly Sterling is a vile racist, but having big brother force him out over a private conversation seems troubling.

Where do you draw the line?

What if he said the same thing about other protected classes, like gays, Catholics or old people? Should the league react the same way? Why not?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Has a player who committed an actual crime ever been fined this much and suspended for life? Ridiculous double standard.

 

[mook]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

He's 81. I imagine some of the calculus on the legal side is that he may die before it's all settled. Meanwhile, the NBA can look responsive to the controversy and get him out of league-sanctioned limelight, which is what matters.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Early indications are that Sterling is going to fight it. If he does my guess is that there are many ways he can delay things into oblivion.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

He'd sue for being to sell below market value. His sale would be "distressed."

Exactly... And we know that Sterling is a "sue happy" billionaire. It's not like you will be dealing with a person that can't afford to "take it to the man"

 

[maxiep]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

How about making a poll if you're going to ask for one?

I think he'll be gone in two months. The NBA keeps several ownership groups on tap in case of owner death, financial troubles, etc. They've all been vetted and approved.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Yes he will still be the owner. I think this will take at least 2 years to kick him out.

 

[BBert]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Has a player who committed an actual crime ever been fined this much and suspended for life? Ridiculous double standard.

Anal rape a hotel clerk and you can still get a $28 million contract extension, but don't say something racist or homophobic in the "privacy" of your home, or you're fined and banned for life. Is that kind of your point?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Nah, Magic Johnson will be

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

My take too. Cuban said you can't take someone's property over something they said in presumed private that was not business related.

I actually deleted that post because I re-read the article and changed my mind. What Cuban kept saying he had a problem with was "kicking someone out of the league" for thoughts/statements. Seems like the lifetime ban is exactly what he was saying shouldn't happen.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

He's 81. I imagine some of the calculus on the legal side is that he may die before it's all settled. Meanwhile, the NBA can look responsive to the controversy and get him out of league-sanctioned limelight, which is what matters.

But Sterling's children can keep the case going.

 

[KingSpeed]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

I've decided I want Sterling to keep the team. It's time for the Clips to suck again, and Sterling owning the team would guarantee it.

Hahaha yep!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Banned for life and $2.5 mm fine!

Anal rape a hotel clerk and you can still get a $28 million contract extension, but don't say something racist or homophobic in the "privacy" of your home, or you're fined and banned for life. Is that kind of your point?

Yep. Anal rape, illegal drugs, battery of a woman=ok, just dare dare say you dont like black people.

 

[KingSpeed]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Can we please merge the 4 Sterling threads?

 

[Mr. J]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

This decision really bothers me. Sterling is pretty much a nothing of a person in my mind and I will be glad to see him no longer associated with the NBA--if it happens. But, where do you now draw the line? If it comes out that Joe Lacob (Warriors owner) voted yes on Prop 8, does he have to sell his team? Many would argue that it is just as offensive as what Sterling did.

I also would rather see this dealt with by the fans and sponsors withdrawing money and forcing Sterling to sell. Clearly Sterling is a vile racist, but having big brother force him out over a private conversation seems troubling.

Where do you draw the line?

What if he said the same thing about other protected classes, like gays, Catholics or old people? Should the league react the same way? Why not?

You bring up a legitimate point. But I think the NBA has more of a vested interest in this matter considering 80+ percent of the players are Black and not to mention myriad fans.

With regard to supporting Prop 8 and other anti-gay marriage initiatives, gay marriage is only legal in 17/50 states and isn't perceived to be on the same level as race relations. Moreover, this country as had an ugly history with Black people that it hasn't had with gay people.

 

[magnifier661]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

Mark Cuban can bitch all he wants but these things happen all the time.

Example: A corporation can vote out the owner from handling the "day to day" operations, because that owner has tarnished the "good name" of the company. The same is said about the "NBA" kicking out an owner they feel has tarnished the brand "NBA".

And this isn't some "legal" court preceding here. It is an entity that nba owners and players all have a stake in. So if the Owners and Players feel that Sterling "staying an owner" will tarnish the "good name" of the "nab", then they have every right to kick him out.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Re: Mark Cuban's Comments on Sterling

So, how's Cuban gonna vote?

 

[magnifier661]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

You bring up a legitimate point. But I think the NBA has more of a vested interest in this matter considering 80+ percent of the players are Black and not to mention myriad fans.

With regard to supporting Prop 8 and other anti-gay marriage initiatives, gay marriage is only legal in 17/50 states and isn't perceived to be on the same level as race relations. Moreover, this country as had an ugly history with Black people that it hasn't had with gay people.

Wrong... Voting for "prop 8" is just as detrimental to the "good name" of the NBA. The line drawn is black and white. The moment you go gray, then everything is questionable.

 

[BBert]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Nah, Magic Johnson will be

And I wish him all the success as an owner that Michael Jordan has enjoyed over the years.

Here's to Magic Johnson, team owner!

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Not sure how B can happen without C happening in your poll.

 

[Reep]

Re: What I'd like to hear Silver say

You bring up a legitimate point. But I think the NBA has more of a vested interest in this matter considering 80+ percent of the players are Black and not to mention myriad fans.

With regard to supporting Prop 8 and other anti-gay marriage initiatives, gay marriage is only legal in 17/50 states and isn't perceived to be on the same level as race relations. Moreover, this country as had an ugly history with Black people that it hasn't had with gay people.

Certainly there is a difference in degree. But, I can almost guarantee that this will come up again in the context of a Christian owner and support of heterosexual marriage. Just a matter of time.

 

[BBert]

Re: Poll: Will Sterling be owner of the Clippers at the beginning of next season

Then all we'd need is for that fool Shaq to buy a Western Conference team and it will be smooth sailing to the WCF for the foreseable future.