OT - Parsons a Maverick

[B-Roy]

I agree it's a disaster, relative to expectations, but I don't think he fucked it up. Risks always have downsides and he's facing it. I think the risk he took was defensible and, if I were a fan of Houston, I'd rather he took that gamble than didn't.

But now that he hasn't matched, unless he really puts that $10 million to good use, Houston is a worse team today then they were going into the playoffs.

He's choosing flexibility again. Meaning he still wants to get that elusive 3rd star, essentially kicking next season to the curb. I wonder how Howard and Harden feel about that?

 

[OneLifeToLive]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...-houston-rockets-max-four-year-contract-offer





Yes, Bosh went with the extra year, but it had nothing to do with the Rockets though. More money wouldn't have helped the Rockets since they couldn't offer any more.

You could be right. It's hard say which he would have chose if the money and years was the same. The option in Houston with Howard, Harden and himself or the one in Miami with Wade.
When considering this, also consider that he was looking at Houston when LeBron was rumored of leaving. This from all accounts was due to the belief Miami wouldn't be as competitive or as good.

But, He did like Miami

 

[illmatic99]

Didn't Garcia leave as well?

hahah I hope he did. Their bench can be worse than ours

 

[jlprk]

So Morey basically turned Lin, Asik, and Parsons into Ariza and cap space. Cap space that allows big free agents to use Houston as leverage before settling on signing guys like Ariza. Sounds brilliant.

The Rockets also gave the Lakers Houston's own 2015 #1 and an acquired 2015 #2 (protected unless #51-55).

 

[B-Roy]

hahah I hope he did. Their bench can be worse than ours

Both Garcia and Casspi are terrible anyways. Addition by subtraction.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

The Rockets also gave the Lakers Houston's own 2015 #1

Ouch

 

[Minstrel]

He's choosing flexibility again. Meaning he still wants to get that elusive 3rd star, essentially kicking next season to the curb. I wonder how Howard and Harden feel about that?

I don't think he's throwing away the season. Their starting lineup will be about the same with Ariza (dollar for dollar, I'd rather have Parsons due to age, but Ariza is a better defender). They're worse because the bench is non-existent, unless he gets a couple of solid players, but they're still mid-range contenders like they were last season.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't think he's throwing away the season. Their starting lineup will be about the same with Ariza (dollar for dollar, I'd rather have Parsons due to age, but Ariza is a better defender). They're worse because the bench is non-existent, unless he gets a couple of solid players, but they're still mid-range contenders like they were last season.

The other thing that really isn't being factored is that they most likely could have gotten better deals for Asik and Lin. That's hard to quantify because who knows what they could have acquired if they weren't looking for cap space in return, but it definitely seems like they mortgaged their future by letting Parsons walk and dealing two substantial assets for next to nothing.

 

[BigGameDamian]

im happy all around, mavs overpaid, houston got weaker

Well I have a feeling the Blazers will have to over pay to keep Mathews when he becomes a free agent should they want to keep him.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Well I have a feeling the Blazers will have to over pay to keep Mathews when he becomes a free agent should they want to keep him.

Maybe not. He likes it here.

 

[B-Roy]

I don't think he's throwing away the season. Their starting lineup will be about the same with Ariza (dollar for dollar, I'd rather have Parsons due to age, but Ariza is a better defender). They're worse because the bench is non-existent, unless he gets a couple of solid players, but they're still mid-range contenders like they were last season.

They couldn't even get out of the first round, how are they still mid-range contenders with a worse roster? Obviously they won't be bad, they still have the best C and SG in the league. Still, I'm sure Howard wasn't thinking they would get worse next year when he signed that big contract. Future free agents will keep that in mind before signing with the Rockets.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

The Rockets also gave the Lakers Houston's own 2015 #1 and an acquired 2015 #2 (protected unless #51-55).

The best part is that Lin and Asik are expiring contracts, which would have been fantastic trade bait for the deadline this season.

 

[Minstrel]

They couldn't even get out of the first round, how are they still mid-range contenders with a worse roster?

The loss to Portland was an upset, it hardly means they're only a "first round and done" quality team. By "mid-range contender" I mean the tier below the true contenders, which is where they would have been even if they had held onto Lin and Asik. The shot for Bosh was a shot to get into the tier above where they are/were, where Portland and Golden State are. Currently, with Miami losing James, that tier is only San Antonio and Oklahoma City.

 

[B-Roy]

The loss to Portland was an upset, it hardly means they're only a "first round and done" quality team. By "mid-range contender" I mean the tier below the true contenders, which is where they would have been even if they had held onto Lin and Asik. The shot for Bosh was a shot to get into the tier above where they are/were, where Portland and Golden State are. Currently, with Miami losing James, that tier is only San Antonio and Oklahoma City.

I don't think it was an upset, but that's another story. Plus, as Nate mentioned, Lin and Asik could have been moved for players that could have actually complemented the team instead of just cap space. A couple small moves here and there and they could easily have moved into the upper tiers. I don't think Bosh was the only way to get there. We've had this conversation before though.

 

[NewsSource]

Does Dwight Howard start sulking? Is Morey the new Bob Whitsitt, chemistry be damned? Does Howard opt out after the 2016 season, and join Parsons in Dallas?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--chandler-parsons-lured-dwight-howard-to-houston-045447291.html

Chandler Parsons lured Dwight Howard to Houston

"I think I had a big impact," Parsons said at USA Basketball's mini-camp. "The first thing he said at the press conference was that, 'You guys should thank Chandler Parsons because he is a big reason why I am here.'

"Obviously, he loves the team, [general manager] Daryl Morey, coach [Kevin] McHale and all that. But I think I just gave him that comfort that you got one of your boys here who is also a key part to the team, a young guy. And we can grow on this for a long time."

Parsons is an Orlando native and former University of Florida basketball player who originally met Howard while Howard starred with the Orlando Magic. The two became closer after Parsons switched to Howard's agent, Dan Fegan, in May. That connection sparked a fast friendship between Parsons and Howard, and eventually worked to the Rockets' benefit during the free-agency recruitment.

"I spent a lot of time during the summer in L.A.," Parsons said. "We kind of just hit it off. We literally would text every day. He'd call me at 8 p.m. with a question and then he'd call me at midnight with the same question. I respect the way he handled [his free agency]. He took his time and weighed all his options.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Does Dwight Howard start sulking? Is Morey the new Bob Whitsitt, chemistry be damned? Does Howard opt out after the 2016 season, and join Parsons in Dallas?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--chandler-parsons-lured-dwight-howard-to-houston-045447291.html

If Morey is the new Whitsitt (he's def aggressive enough) the disdain for him wouldn't be there by JL.

 

[B-Roy]

Reading some of the threads on Clutchfans reminds me of the "Pritchslap" days.

In Pritchard we trust --> In Morey we trust

Almost cult like.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Outgoing:
Chandler Parsons
Omar Asik
Jeremy Lim

Incoming:
Trevor Ariza

They see to think (or hope) that Morey is angling for Durant in 2016.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Outgoing:
Chandler Parsons
Omar Asik
Jeremy Lim

Incoming:
Trevor Ariza

They see to think (or hope) that Morey is angling for Durant in 2016.

lol.

 

[julius]

Its weird how some people still seem to think Morey did an OK job.

Also, how many years have we heard that Boozer was going to be amnestied? He's an expiring contract, they should save it for someone else.

 

[santeesioux]

I could see the Dwightmare starting if they aren't as good next year. It'd be funny if his opt out would have lined up with when we had cap space next year, but he would become angry here too eventually i'm sure.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

unless he uses that 10 million wisely they are going to be much worse than last year, they are losing like 35/16/9 off their team, and a #1 pick, for trevor ariza and?

 

[Minstrel]

unless he uses that 10 million wisely they are going to be much worse than last year, they are losing like 35/16/9 off their team, and a #1 pick, for trevor ariza and?

They're not losing a first round pick (overall). They lost a first round pick in the Lin deal, but picked one up in the Asik deal, so they're "draft neutral."

 

[3RA1N1AC]

thats true, and the pick they got back is a little better than they one they sent out looks like

all in all, dealing lin and asik for cap space to sign ariza? whatever. but losing parsons when they could have kept him for <1mm is pretty damn bad

 

[Shooter]

All I can say is Chandler played damn well against us in the playoffs. This is a very nice pickup for Dallas.

 

[julius]

All I can say is Chandler played damn well against us in the playoffs. This is a very nice pickup for Dallas.

Not really. He had 2 good games, and the other 4 were about his seasonal averages. He disappeared in the 2nd half in most of the games too.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

 

[dreamcloud]

How's Dallas' cap space situation going to be for next summer? Will they have much cap space as of right now to attempt to try to take LA from us after this MAX contract signing? Morey is apparently wanting to keep cap space open for next summer since they striked out this time lol.. But I can't see LMA going to Houston over us after that playoffs series, but idk

 

[Strenuus]

How's Dallas' cap space situation going to be for next summer? Will they have much cap space as of right now to attempt to try to take LA from us after this MAX contract signing? Morey is apparently wanting to keep cap space open for next summer since they striked out this time lol.. But I can't see LMA going to Houston over us after that playoffs series, but idk

I'm not scared one iota about LA leaving. We have the extra year/Extra money. Morey would be an absolute fool to try and go after another "Bosh" like scenario.