OT: Will the Rockets make the playoffs?

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Boob-No-More said:
The Rockets record is fool's gold. Their Strength of Schedule entering the game tonight was the lowest in the league, by far at .389. That's a ridiculously easy schedule. By comparsion, the Blazers SOS so far is 4th in the league at .542, but we have the same 9-3 record as they do.

They just has a stretch where they made 2 of 22 shots and keep missing lay up after lay up and are shooting .350 for the game. They flat out suck - with, or without Dwight.

BNM
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Thank you. See, I'm not crazy. I'm not a troll. And I'm not a jinx. Just calling it like I see it.
 
KingSpeed said:
We don't know the answer til April but that doesn't mean we can't talk about it now. I mean, should we close the forum and not talk about anything til March?
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No, but it makes you look highly reactionary.
 
KingSpeed said:
We don't know the answer til April but that doesn't mean we can't talk about it now. I mean, should we close the forum and not talk about anything til March?
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you don't talk about it. you make proclamations off of small sample sizes instead of letting things play out. it's reactionary.

but, sorry i hit a nerve.
 
Hobbesarable said:
No, but it makes you look highly reactionary.
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I'm just starting conservation and offering my point of view but the thread isn't just about what I think. It's about everyone offering their point of view. If you think Houston will make the playoffs, say so and why.
 
Strenuus said:
you don't talk about it. you make proclamations off of small sample sizes instead of letting things play out. it's reactionary.

but, sorry i hit a nerve.
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I didn't make a proclamation. I started a discussion. Isn't that what thread starting is all about? Introducing topics for discussion?
 
KingSpeed said:
I didn't make a proclamation. I started a discussion. Isn't that what thread starting is all about? Introducing topics for discussion?
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saying they'll lose the next three games is a proclamation. they haven't played it yet. should all underdogs just not play the game? should appalachian state just not have went to michigan to play? different sport, but it doesn't matter.,let the games play out, that's all i'm saying.
 
KingSpeed said:
I mean, they're pretty awful. Can barely beat Sixers, can't score 70 against OKC, lose to Lakers. Yes, they're 9-3 right now. They'll lose to Dallas. That's 9-4 and then the Knicks and Kings. They're losses too. So at 9-6, they'll be in trouble with a much more difficult schedule coming up. With teams like Sacramento and NO on the upswing, I just don't see how Houston makes the playoffs. Too much competition. Thoughts?
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they'll lose to dallas, huh? see what i mean now? let the games play out.
 
KingSpeed said:
Clippers looked great without Chris Paul for 18 games last year. Blake Griffin played like an MVP while Paul was out. Neither player is as good when they play together. It's not a good match.
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18 Regular Season games.
Playing like an MVP and being fundamentally sound are two different things.
Are you really trying to say that Griffin would be the MVP of the league if not for CP3? ha!
How many times did Griffin lead the clippers to the playoffs before CP3 showed up in town?

CP3 is the engine for the clippers. Take him off the roster for 82 games and they're a .500 ball club.
But Griffin would put up good numbers because there is no one else there.
His usage% would skyrocket.

Griffin is not a good match for anyone because he has no go-to-move, and 90% of his jumpers he is attempting to jump straight up but he jumps backward on his shot.
On his post moves he doesn't have his shoulders square to the hoop and he shys away from contact.
All things he needs to improve on to make CP3's job easier. But he hasn't so CP3 can't rely on him.

Fundamentals.
 
So Houston and Portland have the same record, but one, according to Eric, is a contender, and the other he questions if they will even make the playoffs? There should be penalties for starting too many asinine threads.
 
Mediocre Man said:
So Houston and Portland have the same record, but one, according to Eric, is a contender, and the other he questions if they will even make the playoffs? There should be penalties for starting too many asinine threads.
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I think Houston will make the playoffs, but probably the bottom 3 teams. Who knows though. With OKC and Clippers not playing at the level as expected (OKC has an excuse), there are 2 top spots that are open. I think Memphis took one of them, leaving Houston a chance to be a top 4 team. Then again, Dallas is looking pretty good too. Maybe a 4-5 matchup? That would be a hell of a series!
 
Mediocre Man said:
So Houston and Portland have the same record, but one, according to Eric, is a contender, and the other he questions if they will even make the playoffs? There should be penalties for starting too many asinine threads.
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Strength of Schedule and margin of victory are big deals, though. The SRS stat is MOV weighted by SOS. Houston's SRS is 2.83, much closer to 9th place Phoenix (2.61), than 7th place Kings (5.78). Then there is Dwight's mysterious knee injury that came right around when him beating his kid became a thing. Without Dwight's 100% engagement, Houston has troubles.

BTW, Portland's SRS is currently 9.80, second in the league to Golden State (10.73).
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Strength of Schedule and margin of victory are big deals, though. The SRS stat is MOV weighted by SOS. Houston's SRS is 2.83, much closer to 9th place Phoenix (2.61), than 7th place Kings (5.78). Then there is Dwight's mysterious knee injury that came right around when him beating his kid became a thing. Without Dwight's 100% engagement, Houston has troubles.

BTW, Portland's SRS is currently 9.80, second in the league to Golden State (10.73).
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Wouldn't a WCF between Portland and Golden State be fun to watch?
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Strength of Schedule and margin of victory are big deals, though. The SRS stat is MOV weighted by SOS. Houston's SRS is 2.83, much closer to 9th place Phoenix (2.61), than 7th place Kings (5.78). Then there is Dwight's mysterious knee injury that came right around when him beating his kid became a thing. Without Dwight's 100% engagement, Houston has troubles.

BTW, Portland's SRS is currently 9.80, second in the league to Golden State (10.73).
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Houston has been hanging in there and winning close games with only two starters playing every game so far.
 
Hobbesarable said:
Houston has been hanging in there and winning close games with only two starters playing every game so far.
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It's definitely a credit to their starters that they are winning, but they have had the second easiest strength of schedule so far this year, too.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Strength of Schedule and margin of victory are big deals, though. The SRS stat is MOV weighted by SOS. Houston's SRS is 2.83, much closer to 9th place Phoenix (2.61), than 7th place Kings (5.78). Then there is Dwight's mysterious knee injury that came right around when him beating his kid became a thing. Without Dwight's 100% engagement, Houston has troubles.

BTW, Portland's SRS is currently 9.80, second in the league to Golden State (10.73).
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Exactly. MM doesn't understand this. There should be a penalty for his running in with I told you so after one Indiana win in the ECF last year. Too soon for such an asinine post, MM. Learn the game, Mr Man. Then post. Go Blazers!
 
Mediocre Man said:
So Houston and Portland have the same record, but one, according to Eric, is a contender, and the other he questions if they will even make the playoffs? There should be penalties for starting too many asinine threads.
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And there should also be penalties for pointless whining. If you don't like the topic of the thread, don't read it. If you don't like the OP's posts, put him on ignore. No one forced you to open this thread. You knew both the subject and the identity of the poster when you opened the thread. You chose to do so and you also chose to respond. No one to blame but yourself and you own lack of self control.

This comes from the same poster that after the Blazers started 22-4 last year kept insisting they were a mediocre team that benefited from an easy schedule, would finish .500 and miss the playoffs. Oh the irony....

As others have pointed out, Houston has had a ridiculously easy schedule, way easier than the Blazers had at this point last year. Hollinger's Playoff Odds don't come out until December, but his current Power Rankings, which factors in strength of schedule and margin of victory, has the Rockets ranked 10th in the Western Conference. So yes, will the Rockets make the playoffs is a legitimate question.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
And there should also be penalties for pointless whining. If you don't like the topic of the thread, don't read it. If you don't like the OP's posts, put him on ignore. No one forced you to open this thread. You knew both the subject and the identity of the poster when you opened the thread. You chose to do so and you also chose to respond. No one to blame but yourself and you own lack of self control.

This comes from the same poster that after the Blazers started 22-4 last year kept insisting they were a mediocre team that benefited from an easy schedule, would finish .500 and miss the playoffs. Oh the irony....

As others have pointed out, Houston has had a ridiculously easy schedule, way easier than the Blazers had at this point last year. Hollinger's Playoff Odds don't come out until December, but his current Power Rankings, which factors in strength of schedule and margin of victory, has the Rockets ranked 10th in the Western Conference. So yes, will the Rockets make the playoffs is a legitimate question.

BNM
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It actually came out already...

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

The funny thing is that it shows Houston missing the playoffs
 
To be fair, it would be much easier to Ignore Thread if there was an actual Ignore Thread option on these forums. Stupid threads keep rising to the top of my feed.

Boob-No-More said:
And there should also be penalties for pointless whining. If you don't like the topic of the thread, don't read it. If you don't like the OP's posts, put him on ignore. No one forced you to open this thread. You knew both the subject and the identity of the poster when you opened the thread. You chose to do so and you also chose to respond. No one to blame but yourself and you own lack of self control.

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BNM
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magnifier661 said:
It actually came out already...

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

The funny thing is that it shows Houston missing the playoffs
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Excellent, when I checked two days ago, it said the Playoff Odds weren't coming out until December.

The Rockets are currently ranked 9th in the West for making the playoffs with a 49.4% chance. So, according to Hollinger's formula and simulations, the Rockets have a 50/50 chance of missing the playoffs. Perhaps this wasn't such an asinine thread after all.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Excellent, when I checked two days ago, it said the Playoff Odds weren't coming out until December.

The Rockets are currently ranked 9th in the West for making the playoffs with a 49.4% chance. So, according to Hollinger's formula and simulations, the Rockets have a 50/50 chance of missing the playoffs. Perhaps this wasn't such an asinine thread after all.

BNM
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Completely asinine . Not only is the thread completely asinine, the OP goes on to say they would lose to their next three game to "make his point" so now that they won those games without their best player, this thread is even worse
 
I suppose if your basketball points are rebuffed with data, you can always fall back on complaining that you're being targeted.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Completely asinine . Not only is the thread completely asinine, the OP goes on to say they would lose to their next three game to "make his point" so now that they won those games without their best player, this thread is even worse
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Ive got you penciled in as 100% sure that the rockets make the playoffs. We'll see how it goes down. I think there's a good shot they make it but I'd never say I was 100% sure about a team in a conference as deep as the west.
 
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