OT: Will the Rockets make the playoffs?

[Hobbesarable]

Ive got you penciled in as 100% sure that the rockets make the playoffs. We'll see how it goes down. I think there's a good shot they make it but I'd never say I was 100% sure about a team in a conference as deep as the west.

They definitely have some adversity to overcome.

 

[Boob-No-More]

BNM jumping on me yet again never gets old.

Yeah, that never gets old, either.

Unlike you, I actually addressed the topic of the thread and provided reasons why the OP's question was a valid one. But, whatever...

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Completely asinine . Not only is the thread completely asinine, the OP goes on to say they would lose to their next three game to "make his point" so now that they won those games without their best player, this thread is even worse

And, in spite of those impressive wins, Hollinger's playoff odds STILL have the Rockets missing the playoffs. So, how about you get off the OP's ass and actually tell us why you think Hollinger's playoff odds are asinine and why the Rockets are a sure fire lock to make the playoffs. You know, actually contribute something to the thread...

BNM

 

[3RA1N1AC]

hollingers BEST CASE PROJECTION has the wolves finishing 43-39, their first season over .500 in over a decade.

in reality they are projected to have the 2nd worst record in the league

 

[3RA1N1AC]

rockets could very well make the playoffs, its not their fault they are beating shitty teams, but they probably should be beating them by more. they have a nice cushion built up at this point though, even if they start losing a few of these closer games

 

[Mediocre Man]

I suppose if your basketball points are rebuffed with data, you can always fall back on complaining that you're being targeted.

11-3 without their best player.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

11-3 without their best player.

Look, Parsons isn't walking through that door...

 

[Mediocre Man]

And, in spite of those impressive wins, Hollinger's playoff odds STILL have the Rockets missing the playoffs. So, how about you get off the OP's ass and actually tell us why you think Hollinger's playoff odds are asinine and why the Rockets are a sure fire lock to make the playoffs. You know, actually contribute something to the thread...

BNM

who said sure fire lock? Eric started this thread when they were 8-3 cause they lost to the Lakers. They are now 11-3 and are winning without their best player. They could miss the playoffs, but there is no reason to think they will at this point

 

[BlazerCaravan]

11-3 without their best player.

11-3 with a cream puff schedule.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Look, Parsons isn't walking through that door...

Haha. Classic.

 

[Mediocre Man]

11-3 with a cream puff schedule.

Yes. Still 11-3, and with injuries.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Yes. Still 11-3, and with injuries.

Fair point. We'll see how it goes. All we can do is follow our respective teams closely and snark at each other when the inevitable Houston/Blazers games come up.

 

[PDXFonz]

who said sure fire lock? Eric started this thread when they were 8-3 cause they lost to the Lakers. They are now 11-3 and are winning without their best player. They could miss the playoffs, but there is no reason to think they will at this point

You implied it when you called this thread asinine. If they are not a sure fire lock then there is nothing ridiculous about this thread.

 

[Boob-No-More]

who said sure fire lock?

So, if they aren't a sure fire lock, why is discussing the possibility they will miss the playoffs asinine?

Hollinger lists their odds at making the playoffs at slightly under 50%. Again, why is discussing the possibility they will miss the playoffs asinine?

Last year, when the Blazers got off to a hot start, you kept insisting they were an average team that benefited from an easy schedule, would finish at .500 and miss the playoffs. You were wrong. Why was that not asinine, but the possibility that the Rockets will miss the playoffs this year is, after a similar hot start and an even easier schedule?

BNM

 

[BBert]

I don't see the Rockets missing the playoffs. But that's just my gut voodoo chile feeling. Or indigestion, not sure which.

Their strength of schedule has been wimpy. They've had key players hurt. Maybe those two things balance out. Meanwhile, 11-3 is a pretty good record. They would have to take a major nose dive.

I love how they lost so many key players and got next to nothing back. But they still have two all stars and time to get healthy and jell in time for the playoffs. Still, I don't fear them at all at the moment.

Houton number 8 blazers number 1
Blazers in 4. Rest for round 2

That would be groovy.

Especially since no lottery pick for the Rockettes.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Hollinger lists their odds at making the playoffs at slightly under 50%. Again, why is discussing the possibility they will miss the playoffs asinine?

I think MM's point, and I kind of get it, is that Dwight hasn't played all 14 games, and that affects their margin of victory. Their strength of schedule is still shite, but maybe their MOV would have been better if Dwight had been playing.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I think MM's point, and I kind of get it, is that Dwight hasn't played all 14 games, and that affects their margin of victory. Their strength of schedule is still shite, but maybe their MOV would have been better if Dwight had been playing.

Injuries are part of the game. They have a starting center with a history of recent injury problems and they gave away his more than capable back up for a future draft pick that won't do anything to help them make the playoffs this year.

Yes, if healthy, Houston has a good chance to make the playoffs, but so do at least 9 other teams in the West. Given their thin roster, incredibly easy schedule, small margin of victory and the injury history of their best player, I don't see how discussing the possibility they will miss the playoffs is even remotely asinine. Calling the OP's thread asinine was more of a personal attack than a well thought out rebuttal of the merits of his position.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

So starting a thread about Portland might not make the playoffs wouldnt be asinine? Same record, injuries could happen.

The Lakers might make the playoffs.

It was 11 games into the season, for fucks sake.

 

[PDXFonz]

So starting a thread about Portland might not make the playoffs wouldnt be asinine? Same record, injuries could happen.

The Lakers might make the playoffs.

It was 11 games into the season, for fucks sake.

No it would not.

 

[magnifier661]

So starting a thread about Portland might not make the playoffs wouldnt be asinine? Same record, injuries could happen.

The Lakers might make the playoffs.

It was 11 games into the season, for fucks sake.

I think BNM's point was you used SOS last season to give you proof that Portland's record isn't good evidence on Portland's turn around, but you used the record and weak schedule to support Houston making it.

And yes, you can start a thread on Portland not making the playoffs, and many can use Hollinger's playoff prediction to support their argument to your thread.

 

[Boob-No-More]

So starting a thread about Portland might not make the playoffs wouldnt be asinine? Same record, injuries could happen.

The Lakers might make the playoffs.

It was 11 games into the season, for fucks sake.

Hollinger's Playoff Odds:

POR = 99.5%
HOU = 49.6%
LAL = 0.2%

You don't see the difference? One team is a virtual lock to make the playoffs, one has a 50/50 chance and one has virtually no chance.

Maybe you don't buy into Hollinger's methods (if you don't please tell us why), but discussing the possibility that the team he gives a 50/50 chance of missing the playoffs might actually do just that hardly seems asinine.

If you're going to call other posters threads asinine, you need to be prepared to defend that position.

BNM

 

[BlazerCaravan]

So starting a thread about Portland might not make the playoffs wouldnt be asinine? Same record, injuries could happen.

The Lakers might make the playoffs.

It was 11 games into the season, for fucks sake.

Did you NOT read my Stats Tricks post? 11 games into the season is right about when KingSpeed makes crazy predictions. Why are you taking this even a little seriously?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Even beyond the record, the strength of schedule, and all that, here's why Portland's practically a lock in Hollinger-Bot's predictions:

The Northwest Fucking Sucks as a Division.

We're practically guaranteed to win the division, (though injuries happen... *shudder*) which guarantees us a playoff spot.

 

[Boob-No-More]

If the thread title was: "OT: Hollinger Predicts the Rockets Might Miss the Playoffs", would you still have called the OP asinine for starting the thread and suggested he be penalized for doing so?

Wouldn't that be a topic worthy of discussion? We talk about power rankings and playoff predictions all the time. Why is it you chose to single out this on thread as asinine?

BNM

 

[magnifier661]

Even beyond the record, the strength of schedule, and all that, here's why Portland's practically a lock in Hollinger-Bot's predictions:

The Northwest Fucking Sucks as a Division.

We're practically guaranteed to win the division, (though injuries happen... *shudder*) which guarantees us a playoff spot.

But we are also second best to make it to the finals. Explain that?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

But we are also second best to make it to the finals. Explain that?

Obviously that's where SRS (MOV weighted by SOS) comes in. I was just saying, even if it weren't that great, we'd still make the playoffs because of our division being goat turds.

What I'm saying is the Northwest is so bad, HOUSTON could make the playoffs playing in the Northwest

 

[magnifier661]

Obviously that's where SRS (MOV weighted by SOS) comes in. I was just saying, even if it weren't that great, we'd still make the playoffs because of our division being goat turds.

What I'm saying is the Northwest is so bad, HOUSTON could make the playoffs playing in the Northwest

Yeah I hear you. But it's really not that bad, but OKC's injury team made it that way. If they were healthy, we could possibly have the 1st and 2nd best team in the west

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If the thread title was: "OT: Hollinger Predicts the Rockets Might Miss the Playoffs", would you still have called the OP asinine for starting the thread and suggested he be penalized for doing so?

Wouldn't that be a topic worthy of discussion? We talk about power rankings and playoff predictions all the time. Why is it you chose to single out this on thread as asinine?

BNM

C'mon--you know why; no need to press the issue. Would you really derive some benefit by getting him to admit to the basis for his grudge?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I mean, they're pretty awful. Can barely beat Sixers, can't score 70 against OKC, lose to Lakers. Yes, they're 9-3 right now. They'll lose to Dallas. That's 9-4 and then the Knicks and Kings. They're losses too. So at 9-6, they'll be in trouble with a much more difficult schedule coming up. With teams like Sacramento didn'tO on the upswing, I just don't see how Houston makes the playoffs. Too much competition. Thoughts?

Here is the OP, well before Hollingers rankings came out. 11 games into the season, or 13% of the season played. To put that inperspective, that is 2 NFL games. Ask Green Bay and New England how they looked early. Saying how horrible they are stating as some kind of fact to back up his post that they would lose to Dallas and the Knicks....which they didn't. Yes their schedule has been easy, the original post was asinine.

 

[andalusian]

Yes their schedule has been easy, the original post was asinine.

The only asinine thing about this thread was your insistence of derailing it.