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bigbailes said:
Using the Utah Jazz as an example of a small market NBA team that has punched above their weight has me thinking this is Cronin's account on S2 after his Houston remarks. The Jazz and all their playoff success having been to the WCF 1 time in the last 25 years. I think we can all agree SA is the great outlier in the small market NBA scene and that was on the shoulders of a top 10 all time guy and some great role players. Look at their record pre/post Duncan and tell me they aren't like the rest of the small market teams.
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And now Wenby.... sigh
 
Whyachi said:
Nikola Jovic had a career high 24 in Milwaukee. He would have been a perfect addition to Blazers sucky lineup. We should have listened to Heat fans.
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You sir are in rare form today.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Well there is no doubt that this draft does not have a superstar at #1. Saar is no Wemby. But are we sure the rest of the draft is any worse than say last year? This year's projected lottery is all 18 and 19-year-olds.

Williams could be as good as Miller
Topic could be as good as Scoot
Risacher could easily be better than Amen
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I'm not a good prospect evaluator. Being a Duck fan I have been better on evaluating Pac-12 prospects when I have seen them a few times. I really wanted the Blazers to grab Brandon Roy but I had seen him play 15 or 16 times. I also knew nothing about his knees. On the other hand, I didn't think James Harden would be an all-star, so there's that

anyway, I have watched a few highlight videos on Sarr and no, he's not like Wemby. But he might be on the level of Holmgren, or at least close. And I'd say there's a good chance he'll be at the level of Evan Mobley or Nic Claxton or Jarrett Allen...maybe better. If the Blazers have a chance to draft him I would sure hope they wouldn't decline because they already have Ayton; shades of Telfaire/CP3

I haven't seem much of Cody Williams although he certainly dismantled my Ducks a few weeks ago. His shooting numbers are off the charts but I'd be a bit skeptical about them being sustainable. Still, a 6'8 pure shooter would be really nice to add
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm not a good prospect evaluator. Being a Duck fan I have been better on evaluating Pac-12 prospects when I have seen them a few times. I really wanted the Blazers to grab Brandon Roy but I had seen him play 15 or 16 times. I also knew nothing about his knees. On the other hand, I didn't think James Harden would be an all-star, so there's that

anyway, I have watched a few highlight videos on Sarr and no, he's not like Wemby. But he might be on the level of Holmgren, or at least close. And I'd say there's a good chance he'll be at the level of Evan Mobley or Nic Claxton or Jarrett Allen...maybe better. If the Blazers have a chance to draft him I would sure hope they wouldn't decline because they already have Ayton; shades of Telfaire/CP3

I haven't seem much of Cody Williams although he certainly dismantled my Ducks a few weeks ago. His shooting numbers are off the charts but I'd be a bit skeptical about them being sustainable. Still, a 6'8 pure shooter would be really nice to add
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I would take Saar in a heartbeat, then with the GS pick ......an athletic shooter at SF who would most likely need a year or two to develop behind Grant. A starting frontline of Grant, Ayton, and Saar would give us length we haven't had in a while.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Well there is no doubt that this draft does not have a superstar at #1. Saar is no Wemby. But are we sure the rest of the draft is any worse than say last year? This year's projected lottery is all 18 and 19-year-olds.

Williams could be as good as Miller
Topic could be as good as Scoot
Risacher could easily be better than Amen

I mean look at last year's lottery below, other than Wemby there are a lot of question marks. I bet it will take a few years to know for sure which is better.


First Round

1. Spurs draft Victor Wembanyama (Metropolitans 92)

2. Hornets draft Brandon Miller (Alabama)

3. Blazers draft Scoot Henderson (G League Ignite)

4. Rockets draft Amen Thompson (Overtime Elite)

5. Pistons draft Ausar Thompson (Overtime Elite)

6. Magic draft Anthony Black (Arkansas)

7. Pacers draft Bilal Coulibaly (Metropolitans 92) – Traded to Wizards

8. Wizards draft Jarace Walker (Houston) – Traded to Pacers

9. Jazz draft Taylor Hendricks (UCF)

10. Mavericks draft Cason Wallace (Kentucky) – Traded to Thunder

11. Magic draft Jett Howard (Michigan)

12. Thunder draft Dereck Lively II (Duke) – Traded to Mavericks

13. Raptors draft Gradey Dick (Kansas)

14. Pelicans draft Jordan Hawkins (Connecticut)

15. Hawks draft Kobe Bufkin (Michigan)
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Heard from a couple people and read a few articles from those I truly believe know whats going on around the game, that this draft, Cam Whitmore, who I believe was around the 20th pick last season….would have been THIS years draft’s Number 1 pick. That’s why I’m not too excited……
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I would take Saar in a heartbeat, then with the GS pick ......an athletic shooter at SF who would most likely need a year or two to develop behind Grant. A starting frontline of Grant, Ayton, and Saar would give us length we haven't had in a while.
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Sarr is a C like Wemby is a C like Holmgren is a C...and Ayton is not a PF
 
THE HCP said:
No sir/ma’am, you have never been more wrong. This draft is absolutely horrible and this is a tough season to be excited about draft picks.
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Honestly the truth lies somewhere in the middle on this ... there will be a couple of guys that pop (maybe not MVP level stuff but good players) from this draft, the difficulty is really in knowing who. This is a draft where having #1 probably won't be any better than having #5, it's just about who gets 'lucky' with their guy.

One thing I do like about this draft is there is some length to it, not many of the lottery guys are 6'4" and under ... most are in the 6'8" range and that's something we all know Portland desperately needs.
 
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bigbailes said:
Honestly the truth lies somewhere in the middle on this ... there will be a couple of guys that pop (maybe not MVP level stuff but good players) from this draft, the difficulty is really in knowing who. This is a draft where having #1 probably won't be any better than having #5, it's just about who gets 'lucky' with their guy.
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You just proved my point with this collections of words.
 
wizenheimer said:
Sarr is a C like Wemby is a C like Holmgren is a C...and Ayton is not a PF
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I am not a fan of a 215 lb center. (Wemby is an exception) I have watched enough of his videos to see that Saar can guard the perimeter much like Holmgren can.
His 3pt shot percentage is not great, but the scouts all seem to think he will get a lot better at it
 
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THE HCP said:
You just proved my point with this collections of words.
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Not at all ... you said the draft will be horrible and that's some hyperbole, it might not be loaded but I'm also not into judging draft classes months after they've happened, let alone months BEFORE they have happened.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I am not a fan of a 215 lb center. (Wemby is an exception) I have watched enough of his videos to see that Saar can guard the perimeter much like Holmgren can.
His 3pt shot percentage is not great, but the scouts all seem to think he will get a lot better at it
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Would you prefer a 265 lb center? Tankathon presently mocks us getting Williams at 5 and Clingan at 13.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Would you prefer a 265 lb center? Tankathon presently mocks us getting Williams at 5 and Clingan at 13.
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I saw that and I would love to get Williams at 5. However, I think both Williams and Saar go before that.
I honestly do not know much about Clingan. Although I would like to grab one of the SFs that can score. Someone who slips down to us because they are not quite ready now. 15 or 16 tends to be a good spot for that.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I am not a fan of a 215 lb center. (Wemby is an exception) I have watched enough of his videos to see that Saar can guard the perimeter much like Holmgren can.
His 3pt shot percentage is not great, but the scouts all seem to think he will get a lot better at it
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well, I'm not a fan of playing guys with unsuited skillsets out of position. Now, it might not matter much in Sarr's rookie season, but I think the Blazers would be wasting a #1 pick by trying to play Sarr at PF just to accommodate Ayton. It would be just another straddled fence in my view

by the way, Nic Claxton is a 215 pound C and he's doing fine. Also, Sarr looks a little bigger than 215 to me. I do agree he's more mobile than Ayton but I wouldn't want him trying to guard Lebron or Kawhi or Grant or Giddey or Doncic or Durant or Zion or any other of those SF's that masquerade as PF's these days. It might work against KAT and Markkanen but you can't play Minny and Utah every night
 
wizenheimer said:
well, I'm not a fan of playing guys with unsuited skillsets out of position. Now, it might not matter much in Sarr's rookie season, but I think the Blazers would be wasting a #1 pick by trying to play Sarr at PF just to accommodate Ayton. It would be just another straddled fence in my view
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I agree with you, but unless things have changed, he has been projected as a forward since he was 16. This video is two years old

 
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