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[Orion Bailey]

So wait......Zach = KD?

uhhhh, no.. I said Zach> KD.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

here ya go. Add 10# and he is still the lightest center in the league(assuming the 40 heaviest in the league are centers).

He is and will not be a center until he puts on at least 30#. If we let Nurk walk and let him take the center spot next season, that is a mistake because that will be a 3-5 year project.

Is Felton up there?

 

[Mediocre Man]

uhhhh, no.. I said Zach> KD.

It's gonna be a long off season

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

So wait......Zach = KD?

I think what makes a lot of guys that are 7 footers so effective in today's game is when they have good ball handling skills. KD handles the ball almost like a guard He has guard like moves to get the hoop. A lot of guys started as pg's and then grow 8 inches and became really, big point guards.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think what makes a lot of guys that are 7 footers so effective in today's game is when they have good ball handling skills. KD handles the ball almost like a guard He has guard like moves to get the hoop. A lot of guys started as pg's and then grow 8 inches and became really, big point guards.

Exactly

 

[CupWizier]

I agree, but Id say a minimum of 30#. KD is an interesting comparison . I think Zach might even have a better outside shot that KD when he came into the league, but KD had alot more post move agility. Did KD come in and start playing center? I dont think he did. Zach seems to have the drive like KD, not sure if he has the same confidence level, but sure looks like he could gain that confidence over the next next year. Kd was a mental beast though. I put him up there with the Jordans/Paytons/Kobe/, chris pauls of the world when it comes to killer instinct. Collins hasnt had enough playtime to gain that yet I think because of how little he played in college.
KD came straight from highschool though right?

Seriously? Did you watch Durant in college? The guy was one of the best pure shooters from the perimeter and was a dead eye from outside. I like Collins potential but to say he had a better outside shot than KD at the same stage is shocking.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Seriously? Did you watch Durant in college? The guy was one of the best pure shooters from the perimeter and was a dead eye from outside. I like Collins potential but to say he had a better outside shot than KD at the same stage is shocking.

Wait. I fucked this all up. I was thinking of Kevin Garnet. Not KD. Shit.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Wait. I fucked this all up. I was thinking of Kevin Garnet. Not KD. Shit.

Lol, we can scrub all of this, by editing posts. KG is probably a better example anyways!

 

[Orion Bailey]

Lol, we can scrub all of this, by editing posts. KG is probably a better example anyways!

I edited it ... jsut enough to show how much of a dumbass I am, but still got the general point across. lol.

But yeah Kevin Garnet I think is a good potential comparison.

 

[CupWizier]

I edited it ... jsut enough to show how much of a dumbass I am, but still got the general point across. lol.

But yeah Kevin Garnet I think is a good potential comparison.

You see, there is some things we agree on.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You see, there is some things we agree on.

No... really there isnt.


Carry on, we agree on nothing so far.

Edit:
Ahh we probably agree on we want the Blazers to win, but I think thats the extent of it.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Wait. I fucked this all up. I was thinking of Kevin Garnet. Not KD. Shit.

Don't back down

KD in college 40% from 3
ZC in college 47% from 3

 

[Mediocre Man]

You see, there is some things we agree on.

When your wrong.

 

[tlongII]

I didn’t really get that from what NO said, what made you come to that conclusion?

He wants Collins to play on the block. That tells me Collins will be the backup center next season.

 

[Mediocre Man]

He wants Collins to play on the block. That tells me Collins will be the backup center next season.

Or starting

 

[tlongII]

Or starting

If he starts it will be at the 4. He’ll still play backup 5 though.

 

[Mediocre Man]

If he starts it will be at the 4. He’ll still play backup 5 though.

That's speculation. We don't do that here.

What if the don't re-sign Nurk? Maybe he starts at the 5 then?

 

[tlongII]

That's speculation. We don't do that here.

What if the don't re-sign Nurk? Maybe he starts at the 5 then?

They’ll re-sign Nurk. They have to.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

That's speculation. We don't do that here.

What if the don't re-sign Nurk? Maybe he starts at the 5 then?

Where did this we don’t do speculation thing come from? Is it an inside Joke I missed or something...

 

[Mediocre Man]

They’ll re-sign Nurk. They have to.

Do they?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Where did this we don’t do speculation thing come from? Is it an inside Joke I missed or something...

Some forum members would like everyone to deal in facts only. Ironically, one of those forum members said KD was a far superior outside shooter than Collins at the same age, but looking at their college %'s from 3, Collins was far superior.

So facts only. Speculating only leads to rumors

 

[hoopsjock]

Where did this we don’t do speculation thing come from? Is it an inside Joke I missed or something...

It's because someone had a ridiculously horrible trade post which would never happen and when he was repeatedly called out about it Mediocre Man decided that because people thought the trade was so bad it didn't even warrant discussion that people weren't allowed to speculate or have discussions anymore.

Edit: It's mostly about Cup getting into it with everyone again just like on O-Live.

 

[CupWizier]

That's speculation. We don't do that here.

What if the don't re-sign Nurk? Maybe he starts at the 5 then?

Don't back down

KD in college 40% from 3
ZC in college 47% from 3

yeah, Collins shot 21 times from the 3 point line in college and Durant shot 203 times from the 3 point line in college. It clearly shows that Collins is the superior 3 point shooter as that would translate to 27 points for Collins from the 3 while Durant only scored 609 points from the 3.

 

[Mediocre Man]

yeah, Collins shot 21 times from the 3 point line in college and Durant shot 203 times from the 3 point line in college. It clearly shows that Collins is the superior 3 point shooter as that would translate to 27 points for Collins from the 3 while Durant only scored 609 points from the 3.

Stats=facts. You should like that

 

[tlongII]

Do they?

Yes.

 

[CupWizier]

Stats=facts. You should like that

Facts are simply numbers. It's how they are used (a perfect example is you claiming Collins the superior 3 point shooter over Durant) is what makes the difference. Totally taking things out of context seems to be the norm for you as well.

 

[CupWizier]

No... really there isnt.


Carry on, we agree on nothing so far.

Edit:
Ahh we probably agree on we want the Blazers to win, but I think thats the extent of it.

well, it looks like buttercup is back.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yes.

I'm not 100% convinced. It seems.....I know, I know....that the teams advancing farthest?...furthest? in the playoffs not only have elite players, but players who can guard multiple positions. The two "centers" left in the final 4 are Capela and Horford before they were eliminated. Both 6' 10", and both capable of switching and trapping. It would be nice to have a capable big to bang down low, but I don't think a team needs a plodding 7 footer as a starter. Nurk is one of the heaviest players in the league. Nice to have, but not for the money he'll command. He's great, fun to wat h, and makes us better in the regular season. I'm just not sure he makes us better in the post season

 

[Mediocre Man]

Facts are simply numbers. It's how they are used (a perfect example is you claiming Collins the superior 3 point shooter over Durant) is what makes the difference. Totally taking things out of context seems to be the norm for you as well.

You said Durant was superior. He wasn't....unless it's usage we are talking about.

Now had you said he was a better player, then you'd have been right

 

[CupWizier]

You said Durant was superior. He wasn't....unless it's usage we are talking about.

Now had you said he was a better player, then you'd have been right

and I stand by that 24/7. If I need a 3 pointer made, I'll go with Durant.