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I will never understand why anyone goes on twitter.... ever.

I use it for news. That's it.
I generally don't. But when looking for news I do skim some comments underneath and wish I hadn't.

I'm just saying, it goes both ways. Are some Beaver fans hurt and spewing vitriol at the Ducks way? Yes. Are some Ducks fans dancing on the Beavers grave and rubbing it in? Yes.

If you are looking for it you will find it. I don't know why after the events of today people are saying they lost all feelings of empathy for something that has a long road ahead of them. Rivalry be damned.

Oregon did what was best for them. That's it.
 
What it really helps is with recruiting. Lanning must be dizzy with possibilities. And the other sports immediately got a boost in the same vein.

I think, from a football standpoint, this could turn Oregon into a juggernaut eventually. With Nike, there's a good pool for NIL possibilities, and the competition has been raised considerably. It won't be as easy for the Midwest schools to occasionally raid the Pacific Northwest for top recruits when those recruits can stay in state and still have the visibility and development afforded by playing in the Big 10.
 
Evans is a Western Oregon State grad, not an OSU grad.


He went to both:

Paul spent over four years on active duty serving most of that time with the 728th Air Control Squadron. Upon completion of his military commitment in 1997, he returned home to further his education, earning his Master of Arts in Interdisciplinary Studies with an emphasis in American Government, Environmental Policy, and Rhetoric at Oregon State University
 
The Pac leadership refused to address the lack of performance and vision of Larry Scott. The demise started years ago, and along the way missed opportunities to be pro active and control cost, coupled with not knowing the pulse of what was really happening, created the perfect storm for failure. The big12 was at a crossroads a few years back but reacted aggressively with success. And that was after a number of their schools interested in the PAC, but we snubbed them and they kicked our ass at the top. It all starts at the top.
All PAC schools and their leadership is responsible for the demise.
 
I generally don't. But when looking for news I do skim some comments underneath and wish I hadn't.

I'm just saying, it goes both ways. Are some Beaver fans hurt and spewing vitriol at the Ducks way? Yes. Are some Ducks fans dancing on the Beavers grave and rubbing it in? Yes.

If you are looking for it you will find it. I don't know why after the events of today people are saying they lost all feelings of empathy for something that has a long road ahead of them. Rivalry be damned.

Oregon did what was best for them. That's it.

Ship's sinking and at this point I don't think anyone can logically blame Oregon for finding a life raft.
 
Never been on twitter, Facebook or Instagram. Im not the type that would want top spend all that extra time in a bs/jungle.
 
I don't disagree.

Just the dancing on the grave of the Beavs is dumb.

And the blaming Oregon is dumb.

It's reactionary man. Fans start out feeling bad for OSU, and then they see a few Beaver fans saying "fuck the Ducks" or whatever, so they equate it to all Beaver fans and then start firing back.

Of course, there's also the reverse. Beaver fans see a few douchey Duck fans gloating and then turn around and blame all Duck fans.
 
It's reactionary man. Fans start out feeling bad for OSU, and then they see a few Beaver fans saying "fuck the Ducks" or whatever, so they equate it to all Beaver fans and then start firing back.

Of course, there's also the reverse. Beaver fans see a few douchey Duck fans gloating and then turn around and blame all Duck fans.
Agreed. We all have fallen into that trap.

Just kinda dumb when something like this happens and one program has a chance of being really fucked. This isn't normal trash talk.
 
Beavs can only move forward , to achieve future goals in football, if they get an invite to Big 12 Pac. Mountain West kills off dreams.
 
On the bright side, this means I save whatever little time I still spent on college sports.
It's gone from somewhere near 100% cult-like devotion to the Pac-8 when I was a kid to near 0% over many decades, and now that obsession is finally completely deceased.
Oh well.

barfo
 
All I know is that I haven’t been to an OSU football game in like 15 years but I’m definitely going to one this year. The last season of the pac12, that’s crazy to say
 
Oregon State AD Scott Barnes livid about Pac-12 defections: ‘Puts this university in harm’s way’

“I’m furious.”

Those two words summed up the feelings of Oregon State athletic director Scott Barnes, hours after Beavers’ athletics was shaken to its core when Oregon and Washington decided to bolt for the Big Ten Conference.

The move of those two programs left the Pac-12 in disarray, as the seven remaining members tried to figure out what’s next. For Oregon State, is that a retooled Pac-12? Mountain West? Big 12? Something else?

Barnes declined to discuss Oregon State’s options. Barnes said he and key OSU staff members have been scenario planning for weeks, and “we will continue to pursue” remaining possibilities. Barnes disclosed that there are multiple options for OSU’s conference future.

Among the options unavailable to OSU is a conference that includes long-standing rivalries with Oregon and Washington. Or playing in the conference that stood for decades as best in the West.

Barnes didn’t hold back on his feelings toward Oregon and Washington leaving the conference for a lucrative deal with the Big Ten.

“The great history and tradition of this conference has been severely damaged. The best interest of the student athlete hasn’t been served,” Barnes said. “Traveling to the Eastern seaboard multiple times a year is not in the best interest of student-athletes.

“I’m furious because it puts this university in harm’s way and our student athletes in harm’s way. There’s some damage done that we’re going to have to mitigate.”

The past 18 hours have been turbulent. Thursday night it appeared Arizona was on the verge of leaving for the Big 12, and multiple schools held emergency board of regents meetings. No decisions emerged, then Friday morning word leaked that the Pac-12 might remain as a nine-team conference.

“We were literally hours away from a deal that everybody could embrace,” Barnes said.

At the 11th hour, the Big Ten reengaged and lured Oregon and Washington from the Pac-12.

Oregon State is Barnes’ fourth school as athletic director. This is the fifth conference realignment of his career, but like nothing he’s experienced.

“I’ve never seen so many last-minute decision and twists and turns as I’ve seen through this process,” Barnes said. “Conference realignment just doesn’t make sense anymore. What this enterprise was built on was regionality and rivalries. That is gone. That is leaving the Pac-12. Some of the most special pieces about our model is regionality of competition and rivalries. Those things are forgotten.”

Oregon revealed in a press release that it would “prioritize competition across all sports with Oregon State.” Barnes wasn’t that certain.

“To be determined,” he said.

As for a timetable on finding a new home, Barnes said “we will move expeditiously and work with others. Our intent is to work with the remaining Pac-12 members; it’s a strong option. We’ll look at other opportunities. The timing is something we want to pursue as soon as possible, but we have some time to get it right.”

Most options point to Oregon State having to work with a smaller budget. The athletic budget for the 2023-24 school year is $95 million. Barnes wouldn’t speculate on how OSU might tackle a smaller budget. The Mountain West, for example, has school budgets ranging from $39 million to $65 million.

Barnes said Oregon State coaching contracts are secure. The largest is football coach Jonathan Smith, who signed a six-year, $30.6 million contract in December. Men’s basketball coach Wayne Tinkle still has more than $10 million left on his deal.

Barnes said the debt service on Reser Stadium, which is wrapping up a $161 million remodel this summer, is not an issue.

“Reser Stadium is actually a revenue generator. Not only do we cover the debt service, but we generate upwards of $4 to $5 million in additional dollars. Reser is a huge financial opportunity and is obviously counted on even more now,” Barnes said.

Barnes oversees an athletic department with 179 employees and some 600 athletes, many who will have questions. Barnes said the message will be to control what OSU can control.

“We’ve got so much to sell,” Barnes said. “The reason we have coaches stay and less numbers of students-athletes leave is because this place is special. We’re gonna lean into that and remember that as we find a new path forward.”

Barnes is hopeful this saga ends soon.

“The sooner we get back to football and who’s starting at quarterback and who we’re playing next is better, right?” Barnes said.

https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/...ctions-puts-this-university-in-harms-way.html
 
On the bright side, this means I save whatever little time I still spent on college sports.
It's gone from somewhere near 100% cult-like devotion to the Pac-8 when I was a kid to near 0% over many decades, and now that obsession is finally completely deceased.
Oh well.

barfo

I haven't watched a college sporting event in at least a decade. (Willingly tuned in, that is). Haven't missed a thing!
 
Oregon State AD Scott Barnes livid about Pac-12 defections: ‘Puts this university in harm’s way’

“I’m furious.”

Those two words summed up the feelings of Oregon State athletic director Scott Barnes, hours after Beavers’ athletics was shaken to its core when Oregon and Washington decided to bolt for the Big Ten Conference.

The move of those two programs left the Pac-12 in disarray, as the seven remaining members tried to figure out what’s next. For Oregon State, is that a retooled Pac-12? Mountain West? Big 12? Something else?

Barnes declined to discuss Oregon State’s options. Barnes said he and key OSU staff members have been scenario planning for weeks, and “we will continue to pursue” remaining possibilities. Barnes disclosed that there are multiple options for OSU’s conference future.

Among the options unavailable to OSU is a conference that includes long-standing rivalries with Oregon and Washington. Or playing in the conference that stood for decades as best in the West.

Barnes didn’t hold back on his feelings toward Oregon and Washington leaving the conference for a lucrative deal with the Big Ten.

“The great history and tradition of this conference has been severely damaged. The best interest of the student athlete hasn’t been served,” Barnes said. “Traveling to the Eastern seaboard multiple times a year is not in the best interest of student-athletes.

“I’m furious because it puts this university in harm’s way and our student athletes in harm’s way. There’s some damage done that we’re going to have to mitigate.”

The past 18 hours have been turbulent. Thursday night it appeared Arizona was on the verge of leaving for the Big 12, and multiple schools held emergency board of regents meetings. No decisions emerged, then Friday morning word leaked that the Pac-12 might remain as a nine-team conference.

“We were literally hours away from a deal that everybody could embrace,” Barnes said.

At the 11th hour, the Big Ten reengaged and lured Oregon and Washington from the Pac-12.

Oregon State is Barnes’ fourth school as athletic director. This is the fifth conference realignment of his career, but like nothing he’s experienced.

“I’ve never seen so many last-minute decision and twists and turns as I’ve seen through this process,” Barnes said. “Conference realignment just doesn’t make sense anymore. What this enterprise was built on was regionality and rivalries. That is gone. That is leaving the Pac-12. Some of the most special pieces about our model is regionality of competition and rivalries. Those things are forgotten.”

Oregon revealed in a press release that it would “prioritize competition across all sports with Oregon State.” Barnes wasn’t that certain.

“To be determined,” he said.

As for a timetable on finding a new home, Barnes said “we will move expeditiously and work with others. Our intent is to work with the remaining Pac-12 members; it’s a strong option. We’ll look at other opportunities. The timing is something we want to pursue as soon as possible, but we have some time to get it right.”

Most options point to Oregon State having to work with a smaller budget. The athletic budget for the 2023-24 school year is $95 million. Barnes wouldn’t speculate on how OSU might tackle a smaller budget. The Mountain West, for example, has school budgets ranging from $39 million to $65 million.

Barnes said Oregon State coaching contracts are secure. The largest is football coach Jonathan Smith, who signed a six-year, $30.6 million contract in December. Men’s basketball coach Wayne Tinkle still has more than $10 million left on his deal.

Barnes said the debt service on Reser Stadium, which is wrapping up a $161 million remodel this summer, is not an issue.

“Reser Stadium is actually a revenue generator. Not only do we cover the debt service, but we generate upwards of $4 to $5 million in additional dollars. Reser is a huge financial opportunity and is obviously counted on even more now,” Barnes said.

Barnes oversees an athletic department with 179 employees and some 600 athletes, many who will have questions. Barnes said the message will be to control what OSU can control.

“We’ve got so much to sell,” Barnes said. “The reason we have coaches stay and less numbers of students-athletes leave is because this place is special. We’re gonna lean into that and remember that as we find a new path forward.”

Barnes is hopeful this saga ends soon.

“The sooner we get back to football and who’s starting at quarterback and who we’re playing next is better, right?” Barnes said.

https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/...ctions-puts-this-university-in-harms-way.html

If they simply allowed AI to do the schoolwork things like travel wouldn't be an issue for our treasured student-athletes.
 

If thats true they obviously would want Cal and Stanford first. So Oregon State and Washington State would need to hope they go to the Big 10.

If that all happens might as well merge the ACC and SEC if this is where we are going.
 
"Upon completion of his military commitment in 1997, he returned home to further his education, earning his Master of Arts in Interdisciplinary Studies with emphasis in American Government, Environmental Policy, and Rhetoric at Oregon State University"

https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/evans/Pages/biography.aspx

Your link you provided this: “Upon graduating from Western Oregon State College (now Western Oregon University)”….

Your own quote talks about him furthering his education and getting his Masters from OSU, not “graduating”.

I haven’t been following that part of the conversation, but I found your post hilarious.
 
If thats true they obviously would want Cal and Stanford first. So Oregon State and Washington State would need to hope they go to the Big 10.

If that all happens might as well merge the ACC and SEC if this is where we are going.
I’m not sure if Stanford and Cal would want to join the Big 12.
 
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