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julius said:
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Where has he? And if he has, flag it, or tell a mod (most likely tel Slypokerdog)
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I'll just bump one of the threads where he said that. I'm pretty sure he said it more than once, but I remembered this case. Also, called those that disagreed with this nonsense motherfuckers and fuckers, iirc.

It's an old thread, and I don't give a shit about it being edited now any more than I did then. That's not the point.

Go Blazers
 
DaLincolnJones said:
see crandc..
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I, for one, definitely agree that crandc gets handled differently. She attacks other posters as much as anyone I've ever seen here, and they rarely get edited, and she rarely (if ever?) gets "warned". The thing is that if she did get treated equally here, she would probably hate it and flip the fuck out, like she already does pretty consistently. She is the female, gay, feminist version of PapaG.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
see crandc..
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Oh, I'm sorry. Has she been warned repeatedly, been suspended, came back under a fake screen name, went back to her normal screen name, continued to bring up shit that people told her, had been asked repeatedly again to tone it down, went off and had a melt down like papag just did?

because if so, I must've missed it.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
I, for one, definitely agree that crandc gets handled differently. She attacks other posters as much as anyone I've ever seen here, and they rarely get edited, and she rarely (if ever?) gets "warned". The thing is that if she did get treated equally here, she would probably hate it and flip the fuck out, like she already does pretty consistently. She is the female, gay, feminist version of PapaG.
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not all warnings are made public. In fact, most are made via PM
 
julius said:
Oh, I'm sorry. Has she been warned repeatedly, been suspended, came back under a fake screen name, went back to her normal screen name, continued to bring up shit that people told her, had been asked repeatedly again to tone it down, went off and had a melt down like papag just did?

because if so, I must've missed it.
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Who knows because she's never been warned. And who knows what would have happened if she was permanently banned. She may of done the same.

Honestly, I don't want to see either gone. I liked papag and still like crandc. But saying "this guy was guilty" while others get away with the same shit "myself included" is kinda silly, imo
 
magnifier661 said:
Who knows because she's never been warned. And who knows what would have happened if she was permanently banned. She may of done the same.
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you don't know what she has been or hasn't been warned of.

Honestly, I don't want to see either gone. I liked papag and still like crandc. But saying "this guy was guilty" while others get away with the same shit "myself included" is kinda silly, imo
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magnifier661 said:
I actually do know
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and how, pray tell, do you know?

because I've personally asked her to tone it down a few times.

And you're honestly telling me that in the 3300 times she's posted, she's on par with papag, who has posted almost 10 times as much as she has?
 
julius said:
I think if one of us pulled a papag, we probably wouldn't be defending him or her.
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thank you for proving my point

also..I do enjoy crandc, as did I PapaG. I used her as a lightening rod because I knew you would come to her defense, not fair, I know, but effective
 
DaLincolnJones said:
thank you for proving my point

also..I do enjoy crandc, as did I PapaG. I used her as a lightening rod because I knew you would come to her defense, not fair, I know, but effective
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False equivalences don't really prove any points. I didn't come to her defense, you acted like what she has done is on par with what he has done. It's not. It's not like you guys have read all of the posts that he's made, or had to clean up after him (and others). It's not like you guys are actually in on the PM's exchanged between posters and mods (I personally haven't even PM'd him about it, because I know others have and do).

I don't defend Mixum (not sure what his ideology is). I don't come to Mick Zaggers defense when he says things that are pushing the envelope. I didn't defend further either (in fact, guess what? I asked him to tone it down too! ZOMG!)

But hey, I know what, instead just stubbornly stick by your stance that we're just unfair and mean and blah blah blah.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I agree with you. It was a very difficult decision to make. One that had been discussed by all of the Blazer staff for quite some time.

It came down to this, we have very few rules here but the biggest rule is no personal insults to other members. You can disagree with a person's opinion or view on something but repeatedly insulting people just can't happen. Personally I understand that someone could be having a bad day and just needs to vent. That's why I'll edit posts. But continuing to insult people time and time again when you know it's wrong... PapaG was asked multiple times publicly and privately to stop. He didn't.
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Umm, I must have missed it. I never noticed anything he did that would suggest this treatment.
 
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julius said:
False equivalences don't really prove any points. I didn't come to her defense, you acted like what she has done is on par with what he has done. It's not. It's not like you guys have read all of the posts that he's made, or had to clean up after him (and others). It's not like you guys are actually in on the PM's exchanged between posters and mods (I personally haven't even PM'd him about it, because I know others have and do).

I don't defend Mixum (not sure what his ideology is). I don't come to Mick Zaggers defense when he says things that are pushing the envelope. I didn't defend further either (in fact, guess what? I asked him to tone it down too! ZOMG!)

But hey, I know what, instead just stubbornly stick by your stance that we're just unfair and mean and blah blah blah.
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now, now, you of all people should know that I am one to adjust my opinion at times. As a matter of fact I believe you were instrumental just the other day in my doing so.

degree of guilt is not what this was about.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
now, now, you of all people should know that I am one to adjust my opinion at times. As a matter of fact I believe you were instrumental just the other day in my doing so.
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I did?

I have no idea what about.
degree of guilt is not what this was about.
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I think degree of guilt plays a huge role though. Let's say you kind of went off on me, and have no real history of it. Sure, you have your moments, but you aren't known for flying off the handle.

Should you have the same punishment as someone who has flown off the handle a lot? Or makes personal insults a lot? or accuses people of shit they didn't do?

In a perfect world, yes (but in a perfect world, you don't do it anyways). In reality, no.
 
julius said:
It's not like you guys are actually in on the PM's exchanged between posters and mods (I personally haven't even PM'd him about it, because I know others have and do).
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PapaG stated that he had not received a PM from a mod in over a year.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
PapaG stated that he had not received a PM from a mod in over a year.
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He also said that future made comments about his family and that turned out to be to false.

So....maybe he's not being honest about that?

Plus, this wasn't just solely about him getting warnings, but crandc too.
 
julius said:
I did?

I have no idea what about.


I think degree of guilt plays a huge role though. Let's say you kind of went off on me, and have no real history of it. Sure, you have your moments, but you aren't known for flying off the handle.

Should you have the same punishment as someone who has flown off the handle a lot? Or makes personal insults a lot? or accuses people of shit they didn't do?

In a perfect world, yes (but in a perfect world, you don't do it anyways). In reality, no.
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Democrats get a pass. Duh!
 
julius said:
He also said that future made comments about his family and that turned out to be to false.

So....maybe he's not being honest about that?

Plus, this wasn't just solely about him getting warnings, but crandc too.
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Yeah I didn't really believe it, but Sly responded to that comment of his and didn't dispute it.

I would just find that very odd, if true.
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
Yeah I didn't really believe it, but Sly responding to that comment of his and didn't dispute it.

I would just find that very odd, if true.
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while sly is the most active mod/whatever his title is, he's not the only one
 
VanillaGorilla said:
PapaG stated that he had not received a PM from a mod in over a year.
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I just searched through all my PMs. Lord I've gotten a lot of them, lol.

Anyway, I communicated with PapaG via PM on the following dates:

7/12/2013
7/12/2013
7/12/2013
6/15/2013
6/15/2013
3/7/2013
1/31/2013
1/31/2013
1/31/2013
11/20/2012
11/20/2012
11/20/2012
11/20/2012
11/20/2012
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I just searched through all my PMs. Lord I've gotten a lot of them, lol.

Anyway, I communicated with PapaG via PM on the following dates:

7/12/2013
7/12/2013
7/12/2013
6/15/2013
6/15/2013
3/7/2013
1/31/2013
1/31/2013
1/31/2013
11/20/2012
11/20/2012
11/20/2012
11/20/2012
11/20/2012
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