Payton Believes Stockton Was Tougher To Guard Than Jordan...Interesting read

[handiman]

Pippen lead the Bulls to 55 wins, and they were 2 points away from beating the Knicks in 6 games, but they lost in 7. The Knicks eventually went on to go to the championship. So without Jordan, they were still one of the top teams in the East. So even though it wasn't the WCF, the point still stands.

The East didn't have great depth, so a close loss to a team that advanced doesn't indicate much. The point is weak, at best.

Anyway, I don't even care much about this. I just think it's stupid to see people worshiping an athlete like he's some kind of god. But if you guys think MJ was so great, go ahead and stick his card down the front of your shorts.

Bull shit. You've made it quite clear that you care a great deal about this. Suddenly you "don't even care much about this" when that's your only out from a weak ass argument.

 

[Denny Crane]

The East was dominant in Jordan's time.

Without Jordan, 55 wins. With him, 69 and 72 and 67 wins.

 

[Masbee]

Pippen lead the Bulls to 55 wins, and they were 2 points away from beating the Knicks in 6 games, but they lost in 7. The Knicks eventually went on to go to the championship. So without Jordan, they were still one of the top teams in the East. So even though it wasn't the WCF, the point still stands.

Anyway, I don't even care much about this. I just think it's stupid to see people worshiping an athlete like he's some kind of god. But if you guys think MJ was so great, go ahead and stick his card down the front of your shorts.

You just mention that MJ may not be the best ever and people flip out like you've just posted posted a pornographic picture of Jesus Christ.

Really? Who is flipping out? Looks you are.

But, whatever.

I don't care if you don't think Jordan is the GOAT.

As a Blazer fan, I spent his entire career rooting AGAINST him. I don't have any emotional investment in hyping him.

I merely posted some of his career stats, then asked you if not him, then who? And you need to provide a well founded and supported argument for this alternate GOAT, as Jordan is widely regarded as being GOAT by sportswriters, analysts, coaches, gm's, etc.

We do we get from you? No argument, let alone a well supported one.

 

[BigGameDamian]

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[Sinobas]

Really? Who is flipping out? Looks you are.

But, whatever.

I don't care if you don't think Jordan is the GOAT.

As a Blazer fan, I spent his entire career rooting AGAINST him. I don't have any emotional investment in hyping him.

I merely posted some of his career stats, then asked you if not him, then who? And you need to provide a well founded and supported argument for this alternate GOAT, as Jordan is widely regarded as being GOAT by sportswriters, analysts, coaches, gm's, etc.

We do we get from you? No argument, let alone a well supported one.

How can you really compare the elite? It's a dynamic team game, not something simple like track and field, where every player can be compared by a measuring stick or stop watch. Sports writers don't know shit, and when has their ever been a coaches poll on the greatest of all time? You pulled that out of your ass.

Jordan was a great scorer, but there have been many great scorers in league history, and also great all-round players such as Bird, Magic, Robertson....

 

[Masbee]

How can you really compare the elite? It's a dynamic team game, not something simple like track and field, where every player can be compared by a measuring stick or stop watch. Sports writers don't know shit, and when has their ever been a coaches poll on the greatest of all time? You pulled that out of your ass.

Jordan was a great scorer, but there have been many great scorers in league history, and also great all-round players such as Bird, Magic, Robertson....

Yeah, that Jordon was so one dimensional. All he did was score. Not. Dude won Defensive Player of the Year. Magic or Bird ever do that?

First you argue that Jordan isn't the GOAT because he had Scottie Pippen, and well, there!

You name Magic and Bird, and everyone knows their teams were very thin and those dudes had to carry a bigger load for their teams. I mean, who WAS on their teams?

Now, you argue that you can't make a logical case, because you are more brilliant than sportswriters?

Dude, I don't care if you want to make this argument (Jordon is not GOAT). I welcome it. It could be interesting.

But, you have to try.

 

[magnifier661]

How can you really compare the elite? It's a dynamic team game, not something simple like track and field, where every player can be compared by a measuring stick or stop watch. Sports writers don't know shit, and when has their ever been a coaches poll on the greatest of all time? You pulled that out of your ass.

Jordan was a great scorer, but there have been many great scorers in league history, and also great all-round players such as Bird, Magic, Robertson....

Jordan was more than a great scorer. He was the best player to ever play the game. You talked about how the team won 55 games without him; but that was a 10 game drop. Do you realize that Jordan helped that team win 10 more games?

Also, how many titles did Chicago win without Jordan? Your argument is lame