PDX vs MIA Game 5 SL-- 1pm PST

[Wizard Mentor]

Kendell Gill on Will Barton: "He's beatin' those guys like a pinata."

More Gill: "Protect the women and children, there's a monster in the building - and his name is Will Barton."

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Seriously thought they should have thrown Pittman out of the game for his flagrant 2 on Barton, smacking hard in the head.

 

[Sinobas]

Why did Will Barton get 4 FTs on that flagrant? Is that a new rule, or some summer league thing?

 

[Sinobas]

This Miami team is hard to watch.

They suck most heinously.

And that flagrant foul on Barton was most non-triumphant.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Barton or EWill?

Depends what for. Elliott is a LOT more athletic, but Barton is a lot more versatile. From what I saw of Elliott in actual games, he's kind of a gunner. Barton does a bit of everything.

Elliot was certainly projected higher, but I'm loving me some Barton.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Why did Will Barton get 4 FTs on that flagrant? Is that a new rule, or some summer league thing?

Flagrant 2, 2 FT for the flagrant, 2 FT for being fouled in the act of shooting.

 

[Sinobas]

Depends what for. Elliott is a LOT more athletic, but Barton is a lot more versatile. From what I saw of Elliott in actual games, he's kind of a gunner. Barton does a bit of everything.

Elliot was certainly projected higher, but I'm loving me some Barton.

Maybe Barton can win the backup SF job?

 

[Natebishop3]

Maybe Barton can win the backup SF job?

That really shouldn't be hard.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

And that flagrant foul on Barton was most non-triumphant.

Indeed!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Dee Bost should've got himself a job somewhere with his play in Vegas, certainly in the last two games. European teams scout these leagues extensively.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Maybe Barton can win the backup SF job?

We have a bunch of tweeners, so I dunno how useful position labels will be.
PG/SG: Lillard, Nolan, Elliot
SG/SF: Barton, Wesley, Batum
SF/PF: Claver
PF/C: Aldridge, Freeland

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I think Claver will be handed the job of backup 3 and Elliot Williams will be handed 2. Barton should backup both of those guys, IMHO. Of course unless there's an injury we're not talking about a lot of minutes.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Dee Bost should've got himself a job somewhere with his play in Vegas, certainly in the last two games. European teams scout these leagues extensively.

Most likely Dee Bost > Ronnie Price but it's not always about what you know....

 

[MARIS61]

Bobby M. wants Meyers to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle before the season begins.

Time to fire Tubby Medina, Kingspeed's heartthrob.

Big men should play at their natural weight, and the lighter they are naturally, the better.

Leonard may be the fastest center in the league right now, and is no weakling by any sense of the word. Saddling his feet and legs with another 20 lbs to pound them into the boards is a sure-fire recipe for a career-ending injury, besides taking away his best advantages of speed and agility.

Once he masters positioning and footwork, look out.

 

[Tortimer]

Time to fire Tubby Medina, Kingspeed's heartthrob.

Big men should play at their natural weight, and the lighter they are naturally, the better.

Leonard may be the fastest center in the league right now, and is no weakling by any sense of the word. Saddling his feet and legs with another 20 lbs to pound them into the boards is a sure-fire recipe for a career-ending injury, besides taking away his best advantages of speed and agility.

Once he masters positioning and footwork, look out.

I don't agree with you that often but you are 100% correct on Leonard gaining 20 more pounds.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Time to fire Tubby Medina, Kingspeed's heartthrob.

Big men should play at their natural weight, and the lighter they are naturally, the better.

Leonard may be the fastest center in the league right now, and is no weakling by any sense of the word. Saddling his feet and legs with another 20 lbs to pound them into the boards is a sure-fire recipe for a career-ending injury, besides taking away his best advantages of speed and agility.

Once he masters positioning and footwork, look out.

Agreed, he needs to change his attitude around the basket, not his weight.

 

[PapaG]

I think Claver will be handed the job of backup 3 and Elliot Williams will be handed 2. Barton should backup both of those guys, IMHO. Of course unless there's an injury we're not talking about a lot of minutes.

Babbitt will be the back-up three going into camp, with Nic playing 35+ as a starter and a big contract guy.

Claver must beat out Babbitt in camp to enter the rotation going into the season, IMO. The only reason not to play Babbitt today was because you saw what he can do, and it wasn't worth playing him more, IMO.

 

[PapaG]

I don't agree with you that often but you are 100% correct on Leonard gaining 20 more pounds.

Leonard is already 245. Why add weight that is unnecessary to him, and have him lose some athleticism? Let his body mature and see if the weight comes naturally before making him some beast that his body isn't used to being.

 

[Blazinaway]

We have a bunch of tweeners, so I dunno how useful position labels will be.
PG/SG: Lillard, Nolan, Elliot
SG/SF: Barton, Wesley, Batum
SF/PF: Claver
PF/C: Aldridge, Freeland

IMO EWill is NOT a PG, in fact he may be the "purest" SG on the team, Wes can play some SF and maybe Barton as well, don't think Ewill could do that nearly as well as either one of those

 

[VanillaGorilla]

IMO EWill is NOT a PG, in fact he may be the "purest" SG on the team, Wes can play some SF and maybe Barton as well, don't think Ewill could do that nearly as well as either one of those

I don't know why people keep calling Elliot a PG or combo guard. He's a SG, and I've seen no indication that he'll get any minutes at PG.

 

[PapaG]

I don't know why people keep calling Elliot a PG or combo guard. He's a SG, and I've seen no indication that he'll get any minutes at PG.

He's too short to be an elite starting SG in the NBA. That's probably why people call him a Tweener. Nothing against him, because I like his game and think he can be a great 6th man if given the chance.

 

[tlongII]

He's too short to be an elite starting SG in the NBA. That's probably why people call him a Tweener. Nothing against him, because I like his game and think he can be a great 6th man if given the chance.

What did he measure at at the combine?

 

[PapaG]

What did he measure at at the combine?

He is listed at 6'4" on draftexpress, but he never went to the NBA pre-draft camp.

 

[PapaG]

Take a look at Babbitt's measurements from the same draft, though.

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-results

 

[drexlersdad]

He's too short to be an elite starting SG in the NBA.

balderdash

his injuries and level is what is keeping him from being an elite sg in the nba

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Elliot Williams is listed at 6'5", and inch taller than Dwayne Wade.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Elliot Williams is listed at 6'5", and inch taller than Dwayne Wade.

These are the best pictures I could find that we might be able to guess his height with.

Danny Green is 6'6.5" listed at 6'6"

Armon Johnson is 6'3.25", listed at 6'3".

Luke Babbitt is 6'8.75", listed at 6'9".

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I'd bet Williams would measure over 6'5" in shoes.

 

[BBert]

This is one game i'm not to mad I can't watch now that I know whos not playing

I actually enjoyed watching this game. If this were our NBDL team (plus a couple of big guys), I'd break out the popcorn and beer and root them on regularly. I hope Bost is on our NBDL team for example.

 

[BBert]

Bobby M. wants Meyers to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle before the season begins.

Yeah. To hell with his knees.