Pelican Bryce Dejean-Jones, 23, dies of gunshot wound

[SlyPokerDog]

He did use the term "dog droppings" to reference some posts.

I'm actually honored that someone joined the forum just to call me an asshole.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Long time lurker that fought the urge to join due to perils of social media finally finds a topic he can't ignore.

Typically I would just let moronic statements slide in a forum post, but I expect better from Blazer fans - call me naive and unrealistic on that count - so here is my rant.

TL;DR : OP got his answer through posted links. Yet other posters felt a need to offer unfounded stereotypical conjecture along with insensitive "jokes?". We should expect better from each other.

Rant below if interested.









Human dead less than 24 hours and the wild speculation begins. Woman; intoxicated; drugs; Darwin Award; shooter is a liar; Crabbe stands to benefit ( then poster attempts to validate his absurd statement with the tired logically invalid retort "doesn't mean it's not true"; rather than admitting his comment was out of line, he doubles down. Thankfully he later creates a narrative suggesting a more realistic, non-intoxicated and wholesome scenario. Admittedly tinged with stereotypical delivery, but at least seemingly trying to atone for his earlier derogatory miscue.

Everyone understands the Internet is full of dbaggery, but it is the responsibility of peers to bring attention to where they think things are going awry. Lest it be assumed I am a SJW nutcase or unreasonably PC, I assure you I am not. What I'm tired of is this rush to fill in the blanks about a situation with preconceived opinions and callous comments that show a disregard for other fellow humans. If this guy was a blazer, Oregon native or friend of those making the comments, would I be correct in assuming he wouldn't be disparaged as strongly?

Concluding, what has gotten in to some of you? OP asks reasonable question which was answered more or less with links, then the dogpile of dog droppings begins. If you think you are being funny, you aren't. We can do better and should do better.

p.s. If anyone wants to make a joke about any situation I am all for it, I have no sacred cows. Just make sure it truly is funny before hitting the send button.

Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to some of your thoughts about our Blazers!

Try perusing the OT forum.

 

[crandc]

You could apply this to pretty much 95% of the posts about basketball on this forum.....WOMAN!

Difference between basketball and someone getting killed.

 

[jlprk]

You could apply this to pretty much 95% of the posts about basketball on this forum.....WOMAN!

Hey Mex! Watch who you're calling a woman around here.

[SIGPIC]https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/595765219793707008[/SIGPIC]

Yes, it's Europe's freedom of speech to ridicule the 3 million we have killed or tortured. The Arabs are immature to get mad about it.

 

[riverman]

Long time lurker that fought the urge to join due to perils of social media finally finds a topic he can't ignore.

Typically I would just let moronic statements slide in a forum post, but I expect better from Blazer fans - call me naive and unrealistic on that count - so here is my rant.

TL;DR : OP got his answer through posted links. Yet other posters felt a need to offer unfounded stereotypical conjecture along with insensitive "jokes?". We should expect better from each other.

Rant below if interested.









Human dead less than 24 hours and the wild speculation begins. Woman; intoxicated; drugs; Darwin Award; shooter is a liar; Crabbe stands to benefit ( then poster attempts to validate his absurd statement with the tired logically invalid retort "doesn't mean it's not true"; rather than admitting his comment was out of line, he doubles down. Thankfully he later creates a narrative suggesting a more realistic, non-intoxicated and wholesome scenario. Admittedly tinged with stereotypical delivery, but at least seemingly trying to atone for his earlier derogatory miscue.

Everyone understands the Internet is full of dbaggery, but it is the responsibility of peers to bring attention to where they think things are going awry. Lest it be assumed I am a SJW nutcase or unreasonably PC, I assure you I am not. What I'm tired of is this rush to fill in the blanks about a situation with preconceived opinions and callous comments that show a disregard for other fellow humans. If this guy was a blazer, Oregon native or friend of those making the comments, would I be correct in assuming he wouldn't be disparaged as strongly?

Concluding, what has gotten in to some of you? OP asks reasonable question which was answered more or less with links, then the dogpile of dog droppings begins. If you think you are being funny, you aren't. We can do better and should do better.

p.s. If anyone wants to make a joke about any situation I am all for it, I have no sacred cows. Just make sure it truly is funny before hitting the send button.

welcome to the forum...just a heads up..at the top of the thread there is an unwatch thread you can click to unwatch any thread. There is nothing funny about a senseless death...it's tragic. now for the lawyer jokes

 

[riverman]

I was so tempted to post "At least he got his shot in the NBA"....then carefully avoided it knowing it would rattle someone's cage...it's easy to laugh when you're completely detached from a situation...I've lost quite a few folks close to me and when it's close to home, it's hard to use the humor card.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm actually honored that someone joined the forum just to call me an asshole.

Then you should be super duper honored by how many of us haven't quit the forum just so we can continue to call you an asshole.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Long time lurker that fought the urge to join due to perils of social media finally finds a topic he can't ignore.

Typically I would just let moronic statements slide in a forum post, but I expect better from Blazer fans - call me naive and unrealistic on that count - so here is my rant.

TL;DR : OP got his answer through posted links. Yet other posters felt a need to offer unfounded stereotypical conjecture along with insensitive "jokes?". We should expect better from each other.

Rant below if interested.









Human dead less than 24 hours and the wild speculation begins. Woman; intoxicated; drugs; Darwin Award; shooter is a liar; Crabbe stands to benefit ( then poster attempts to validate his absurd statement with the tired logically invalid retort "doesn't mean it's not true"; rather than admitting his comment was out of line, he doubles down. Thankfully he later creates a narrative suggesting a more realistic, non-intoxicated and wholesome scenario. Admittedly tinged with stereotypical delivery, but at least seemingly trying to atone for his earlier derogatory miscue.

Everyone understands the Internet is full of dbaggery, but it is the responsibility of peers to bring attention to where they think things are going awry. Lest it be assumed I am a SJW nutcase or unreasonably PC, I assure you I am not. What I'm tired of is this rush to fill in the blanks about a situation with preconceived opinions and callous comments that show a disregard for other fellow humans. If this guy was a blazer, Oregon native or friend of those making the comments, would I be correct in assuming he wouldn't be disparaged as strongly?

Concluding, what has gotten in to some of you? OP asks reasonable question which was answered more or less with links, then the dogpile of dog droppings begins. If you think you are being funny, you aren't. We can do better and should do better.

p.s. If anyone wants to make a joke about any situation I am all for it, I have no sacred cows. Just make sure it truly is funny before hitting the send button.

Ok, update.

First I wrote a lengthy post calling your rant ridiculous. Then I deleted it and wrote that I'd deleted it but made a joke about your mom. Then I deleted that and made a joke about your.........

Awww fuck it I can't decide which way to go. Just write your own insults to yourself if you're gonna judge whether they are funny or not. Or out of line, you make the call.

I'll just go on reading shit on the Internet for entertainment.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't care what anyone says, my post I just made in the starting center thread is fucking hilarious and I only did it because of this thread.

I laughed at all the Challenger shuttle jokes too so sue me.

 

[Eastoff]

On a different but related topic, do gay guys talk the way they do naturally or is that something they do on purpose

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/is-there-a-gay-voice
Funny you should ask...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Ok, update.

First I wrote a lengthy post calling your rant ridiculous. Then I deleted it and wrote that I'd deleted it but made a joke about your mom. Then I deleted that and made a joke about your.........

Awww fuck it I can't decide which way to go. Just write your own insults to yourself if you're gonna judge whether they are funny or not. Or out of line, you make the call.

I'll just go on reading shit on the Internet for entertainment.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/is-there-a-gay-voice
Funny you should ask...

Thanks for the link. Genuine curiosity and I don't know if I got a real answer. Might read it again later.

 

[Bandwagonfansince77]

Thanks for the warm reception!

Now that we're all introduced properly I do hope to contribute in a positive way to this forum and fully expect to be called out when I have a half-baked opinion. Moreover, I hope I'm wrong _some_ of the time and get an astute forum member to rip me a new one as necessary.

Good thing I'm never wrong, as I only need the one hole, TYVM. {feels like I'm setting myself up to be the butt of a joke...} ;-)

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I'm actually honored that someone joined the forum just to call me an asshole.

Your mother been telling you stories about me again?

 

[BonesJones]

Since none of us have the facts, how about stop the unfounded wildass speculation.

But if we had the facts then speculation is impossible, because based on the definition of "speculate", it's only possible to speculate on what you don't know...

 

[BlazerWookee]

Thanks for the warm reception!

Now that we're all introduced properly I do hope to contribute in a positive way to this forum and fully expect to be called out when I have a half-baked opinion. Moreover, I hope I'm wrong _some_ of the time and get an astute forum member to rip me a new one as necessary.

Good thing I'm never wrong, as I only need the one hole, TYVM. {feels like I'm setting myself up to be the butt of a joke...} ;-)

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken...

 

[dviss1]

Awww, shit. Hadn't even thought of how racist that seemed when I read it.

However, if black guys don't want people to assume they talk like that all of the ones who do should stop. It might be the single biggest barrier left for them here.

It is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me and I bet 99 percent of the country.

On a different but related topic, do gay guys talk the way they do naturally or is that something they do on purpose?

I'm not singling out these groups as I've always hated accents from different parts of the country too. "I'm gonna go warsh the car"

Where's there a fucking r in wash?

I can't believe you posted this load of crap. You know who taught us their version of English right? The same idiots who couldn't pronounce the word negro...

This post is wrought with unmitigated crapola.

For the record, my mother, who regularly says warshington, and "fisten to", used to thump me in the head if I didn't pronounce my ERS and INGs. I must run in the best black circles because most of the people I associate with do the same.

But I guess broken English from Southern Whites is ok?

 

[dviss1]

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/is-there-a-gay-voice
Funny you should ask...

Ignorance at it's finest. Meet some gay people, (you don't have a cousin or something?) and have conversation with them. Just like I fucking HATE watermelon, all gays don't talk like that..

 

[crandc]

Ignorance at it's finest. Meet some gay people, (you don't have a cousin or something?) and have conversation with them. Just like I fucking HATE watermelon, all gays don't talk like that..

I don't know any who do. And I actually know gay people.

I guess the notion that someone should react to a person's tragic death by just expressing condolences is too "politically correct" for some posters. Yep, he was black, he must have bad grammar and therefore deserved to die.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Weird. I know a few gay people that do talk like that. Its really interesting hearing a soft flamboyant voice from a big muscular man too. But id feel that way about a straight guy too so....*shrug*

Ive also known gay men that act no different than a straight guy and i never would have known they were gay unless they told me.

Either way, stereotypes are lame.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I can't believe you posted this load of crap. You know who taught us their version of English right? The same idiots who couldn't pronounce the word negro...

This post is wrought with unmitigated crapola.

For the record, my mother, who regularly says warshington, and "fisten to", used to thump me in the head if I didn't pronounce my ERS and INGs. I must run in the best black circles because most of the people I associate with do the same.

But I guess broken English from Southern Whites is ok?

Nope, read it again.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't know any who do. And I actually know gay people.

I guess the notion that someone should react to a person's tragic death by just expressing condolences is too "politically correct" for some posters. Yep, he was black, he must have bad grammar and therefore deserved to die.

Yes, that's it. Dumb hoodrat. Probably gay too. Should have been shot more just because he was gay.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Ignorance at it's finest. Meet some gay people, (you don't have a cousin or something?) and have conversation with them. Just like I fucking HATE watermelon, all gays don't talk like that..

I guarantee you that I know more gay men than anyone on this website except Kingspeed. Even that might not be a big lead.

See, my wife has managed hair salons for 15 years. I've met and talked to probably over 100. I went to a gay wedding in Vegas and hadn't met the man who was marrying the man I knew.

I saw him out front waiting for someone and being Vegas there were 10 weddings going on. He was black and had a deep voice, when I was introduced to him as the guy marrying the other guy I knew my gaydar wasn't 100 percent accurate as I had thought it was.

(Edit, maybe crandc knows more, whatever.)

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I can't believe you posted this load of crap. You know who taught us their version of English right? The same idiots who couldn't pronounce the word negro...

This post is wrought with unmitigated crapola.

For the record, my mother, who regularly says warshington, and "fisten to", used to thump me in the head if I didn't pronounce my ERS and INGs. I must run in the best black circles because most of the people I associate with do the same.

But I guess broken English from Southern Whites is ok?

Why would anyone who speaks proper English want to hang out with people who speak like morons?

If I meet a redneck who asks me if I can "borrow him" some money I don't want to be buddies.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Oh Dviss, one more thing. My gramps taught me how to change the channel and adjust the rabbit ears on our tv.

I haven't regularly changed a tv channel without a remote in 30 years. He also taught me the N word, guess I can keep using it then...it's what I was taught.

What language former slaves were taught over 100 years ago doesn't mean shit now. We have public schools.

And I can't run around calling people the N word either.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I would first like to apologize for some of the words and terms I used in my failed humorous attempt to explain how he was shot. It was not my intention to offended anyone. I have deleted the post but I would like to clarify a few things.

I was intentionally trying to be over the top. I wasn't trying to be racist.

I used terms like Humpty Dumpty for sex. I don't recall anyone white or black ever using that as a euphemism for sex. And I especially don't think Mr Jones had.

Baby Mama, I swear to god I didn't know this was a black thing. I've heard this multiple times, I think... I think the first time I actually heard it was a Beastie Boys song.

Who dat, this was intentional. He played for the Pelicans, Louisiana is the Who Dat state. I only know this because I have relatives in Louisiana. Not a black thing. Maybe he said it, maybe he didn't. If I had to guess I would say he did.

I was not in anyway stating that he deserved to be shot because of his grammar.

Again, I was only in a humorous way attempting to show that he got shot out of a series of tragic mistakes and not because of drugs or some of the other reasons given.

I'm sorry, I can understand why some of you would think that what I posted was racist, that's why I have deleted my post.

 

[THE HCP]

Very interesting thread to tell you the truth. Couple things-
Half my friends, half my school and half my neighborhood growing up were black. The hip hop culture didn't really take hold of kids probably til after I graduated HS (1990). I remember going to summer camp or even playing pickup games in different parts of town and hearing other kids make fun of how I talked. The "black" slang I used or the cadence of my speech. It really got shoved in my face after HS when I went into the Army. Rednecks and hillbillies would not only give me shit for hanging out with the "brothers", but would crack on the music I listened to and the way I spoke. I think some stereotypes of how people talk and act are accurate. When I walk into a convenience store in NC while traveling for work, I look up and have already predetermined what the guy behind the counter will sound like. It's what it is.
You guys were mentioning how gay people speak. Interesting, my wife and I were talking about this the other night. Watching a show with a gay guy speaking and wondered how that happens. I'd say half the gay guys I know have a very feminine way of speaking. Is it a learned behavior?
The HCP loves all races and people of all sexual orientations. Like The Stylistics said, "People Make The World Go 'Round"..........







PS....... That said, stereo types don't just make themselves up.

 

[Eastoff]

Ignorance at it's finest. Meet some gay people, (you don't have a cousin or something?) and have conversation with them. Just like I fucking HATE watermelon, all gays don't talk like that..

Four of the five gay men I hang out with on a regular basis have a 'gay' accent. They don't all talk like that, but there could be an internal want to be proud of who they are and subconsciously change their speech patterns.

 

[THE HCP]

And if it makes anybody feel better...... I have to turn on my NERD/VIRGIN/NO SOCIAL SKILLS WHATSOEVER vibe on to understand whats going on here at S2!
And who does this rookie think he is coming on here and putting you guys on blast like that?

 

[Eastoff]

I don't know any who do. And I actually know gay people.

I guess the notion that someone should react to a person's tragic death by just expressing condolences is too "politically correct" for some posters. Yep, he was black, he must have bad grammar and therefore deserved to die.

Maybe living in the bay area, there is less of a need to self identify.