Phil Robertson suspended for "anti-gay" remarks

[Denny Crane]

No I don't, but then again neither you nor I were there. A lot of people seem happy that aren't, and vice versa. There are a lot of people that commit suicide and immediately people say "wow, they seemed so happy" As well as many people living like dirt that are the happiest people ever

I volunteer at a prison here to speak to inmates. You would be shocked at how many of them are happy. Happy to be in prison even. Some of them have been released and do something to go right back because they are happier there with rules and structure.

I guess the old saying about one mans garbage being another mans treasure or something like that fits here.

I have had money, and have had nothing. Having money is better, but I sure do miss the simplicity of having none.

These look like happy people.

 

[donkiez]

No I don't, but then again neither you nor I were there. A lot of people seem happy that aren't, and vice versa. There are a lot of people that commit suicide and immediately people say "wow, they seemed so happy" As well as many people living like dirt that are the happiest people ever

I volunteer at a prison here to speak to inmates. You would be shocked at how many of them are happy. Happy to be in prison even. Some of them have been released and do something to go right back because they are happier there with rules and structure.

I guess the old saying about one mans garbage being another mans treasure or something like that fits here.

I have had money, and have had nothing. Having money is better, but I sure do miss the simplicity of having none.

Just because a few are happy with simplicity, does not mean a whole race is happy with no opportunity.

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[bodyman5000 and 1]

These look like happy people.

They should still be holding those signs then because they sure as fuck don't all have jobs. Neither do these scummy white trash 20 year olds with their tattoos and huge earrings they mutilate their bodies with. I suspect these white trash pieces of shit are happy too. Which adds backing to my belief that dumber people are generally happier.

What makes me unhappy is going to the grocery store on welfare day and being one of the few people using my own money.

This rant may not have much to do with the thread except that my prejudices have no effect on you morons any more than Phil Robertson's. Dude is a badass by the way.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Just because a few are happy with simplicity, does not mean a whole race is happy with no opportunity.

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They have plenty of opportunity. They have the opportunity to not have kids they can't pay for or properly educate. That right there is on them. Don't like being black? Don't have kids that have to be stuck being black. I wish I was black so I could throw down wicked 360 dunks and people would be more scared of me than normal. The person I would want to be in the last 50 years would be Shaq. I would have broken the arms of dudes trying to block my dunks.

Another comment that doesn't have much to do with anything but once again who cares what Phil Robertson says?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Just because a few are happy with simplicity, does not mean a whole race is happy with no opportunity.

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I agree. As he said though.... the people he observed. He didn't say a word about an entire race.

 

[MarAzul]

I agree. As he said though.... the people he observed. He didn't say a word about an entire race.

Well MM you must remember, these folks making the derogatory comments have no personal memories to give them reference. They know only the history that the PC police have allowed to filter through, and of course they emulated the correct response.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

They have plenty of opportunity. They have the opportunity to not have kids they can't pay for or properly educate. That right there is on them. Don't like being black? Don't have kids that have to be stuck being black. I wish I was black so I could throw down wicked 360 dunks and people would be more scared of me than normal. The person I would want to be in the last 50 years would be Shaq. I would have broken the arms of dudes trying to block my dunks.

Another comment that doesn't have much to do with anything but once again who cares what Phil Robertson says?

wow

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[PapaG]

I had no clue about who Phil Robertson was before this contrived controversy, but I'm guessing he's lived a more interesting life than anybody on this board.

http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/18740/how-good-was-phil-robertson-at-football

How good was Phil Robertson at football?

...

Williams: He was very well-liked. And he’s just an old country boy. He was just an old country boy then, too. … His main interest was not quarterbacking. His main interest was hunting and fishing. And the thing that I remember about Phil, coach (Joe) Aillet would make him come over and spend the night with him before the game, where he wouldn’t get up and go duck hunting at 4 o’clock in the morning so he’d have his mind on the ballgame instead of hunting and fishing. That’s just the way Phil was. What you see when you watch him on TV, that was Phil. That’s no put-on, that’s just Phil.

Brunet: Hunting and fishing was his life. He’d come into class all full of blood after skinning a deer or something. That was Phil.

Phil Robertson: That’s true. I can’t deny it.

Lewis: He had a good arm, but the thing was, the only thing he wanted to throw at was ducks. Football, let me say it this way, his love was hunting.

Terry Bradshaw, backup quarterback (from his 2001 book, “It’s Only a Game”): The quarterback playing ahead of me, Phil Robertson, loved hunting more than he loved football. He’d come to practice directly from the woods, squirrel tails hanging out of his pockets, duck feathers on his clothes. Clearly he was a fine shot, so no one complained too much.

...

 

[PapaG]

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/arti...-Montana-Phil-Robertson-visit-Ruston-Thursday

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

wow

One day people like you will realize that people like me that say things like that are the ones who aren't racist. I don't give a flying fuck what color someone is born. I judge every person I meet based on my interactions with them. The word racist is thrown at people like me way too often. I believe that whites held blacks down and it was pure bullshit. What am I supposed to do about it? There are homeless vets on every corner of Las Vegas and I'm supposed to worry about gays getting offended by a throwback redneck?

This PC bullshit is holding this country back and fostering resentment towards the new protected class. I know for a fact that homosexuals get treated better at their jobs than straights. Corporations don't want to be sued for discrimination. One gay guy I knew told female coworkers they were too fat to wear certain clothes, and he bitched to customers about gay rights and religion nonstop. He was just a whiny bitch. They get complaints constantly but he never gets reprimanded. Weird huh?

 

[barfo]

I had no clue about who Phil Robertson was before this contrived controversy, but I'm guessing he's lived a more interesting life than anybody on this board.

I'm not saying hunting, fishing, and college football aren't interesting, but they don't strike me as especially unusual or fascinating. Or maybe you are just saying you think your fellow posters are exceptionally boring people?

barfo

 

[ehizzy3]

. The word racist is thrown at people like me way too often.

maybe, because...wait for it....you say racist things?!

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

One day people like you will realize that people like me that say things like that are the ones who aren't racist. I don't give a flying fuck what color someone is born. I judge every person I meet based on my interactions with them. The word racist is thrown at people like me way too often.

Maybe if you didn't say shit like this:

Don't like being black? Don't have kids that have to be stuck being black. I wish I was black so I could throw down wicked 360 dunks and people would be more scared of me than normal.

people wouldn't say you were racist. For the record, all I said was "wow". It's almost like you were looking for the first opportunity to go on this tirade. Aren't you glad I bit?

I believe that whites held blacks down and it was pure bullshit.

That doesn't absolve the stupid shit you said.

What am I supposed to do about it?

Don't say stupid shit.

There are homeless vets on every corner of Las Vegas and I'm supposed to worry about gays getting offended by a throwback redneck?

Are you supposed to worry about this? Is anyone? Who started this thread anyway? The president of A&E?

This PC bullshit is holding this country back and fostering resentment towards the new protected class. I know for a fact that homosexuals get treated better at their jobs than straights. Corporations don't want to be sued for discrimination. One gay guy I knew told female coworkers they were too fat to wear certain clothes, and he bitched to customers about gay rights and religion nonstop. He was just a whiny bitch. They get complaints constantly but he never gets reprimanded. Weird huh?

Now that you mention it, it is weird that you assume the examples from your own personal life represent reality in the rest of the country, yes.

 

[Further]

There's some crazy trolls in this thread. I'll ignore them and just give my view.

1) I don't agree with any of the crap PR said.
2) I don't watch the show, seems dumb to me in the 2 minute clips I've seen.
3) if I did watch the show, I would stop because I don't want to support these rants.
4) I would hope others would also stop watching.
5) but I would never call for him to be censored, if enough people are turned off, he will lose viewership.
6) I would rather hear all sides of an issue even if I don't agree. Especially if I don't agree.
7) A&E has ever right to suspend/fire him, they want to control the image of their brand.
8) although it's their right, I would rather they make whatever decision they come to based on viewership or true ethics and not based on lobbying.
9) GLAD is a wonderful org, but I would rather they put their effort into explaining their views and encouraging acceptance instead of trying to silence the opposition. Let the sides debate. Openly, loudly, and without retribution. Something about using honey not vinegar.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Maybe if you didn't say shit like this:



people wouldn't say you were racist. For the record, all I said was "wow". It's almost like you were looking for the first opportunity to go on this tirade. Aren't you glad I bit?



That doesn't absolve the stupid shit you said.



Don't say stupid shit.



Are you supposed to worry about this? Is anyone? Who started this thread anyway? The president of A&E?



Now that you mention it, it is weird that you assume the examples from your own personal life represent reality in the rest of the country, yes.

I'm not racist. I guess I should put a disclaimer like Maris. I made up the entire gay thing so it is weird. I literally hope you people don't get your blood pressure boiling over crap people type on the internet. The point I was trying to make without saying it too often was that words on here have no impact on real life. Just like Phil Robertson...means nothing to anyone with half a brain. Then today I saw Jesse Jackson is involved, now I have proof of that.

 

[Mediocre Man]

More hateful? You decide

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person," Robertson is quoted in GQ. "Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

"the statements uttered by Robertson are more offensive than the... driver" of civil rights icon Rosa Parks' bus.

 

[Denny Crane]

This will help:

https://www.weeklystandardstore.com

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

More hateful? You decide

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person," Robertson is quoted in GQ. "Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

"the statements uttered by Robertson are more offensive than the... driver" of civil rights icon Rosa Parks' bus.

You're forgetting the main argument of these discussions. Some people think you can't experience racism or be racist unless you are the minority or considered by the left to be marginalized. A white rich guy is everyone's favorite target for racism

 

[The_Lillard_King]

 

[MarAzul]

Heh, heh! Yep, that about sums it up.

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

I'm not racist. I guess I should put a disclaimer like Maris. I made up the entire gay thing so it is weird. I literally hope you people don't get your blood pressure boiling over crap people type on the internet. The point I was trying to make without saying it too often was that words on here have no impact on real life. Just like Phil Robertson...means nothing to anyone with half a brain. Then today I saw Jesse Jackson is involved, now I have proof of that.

Okaaaay.

 

[PapaG]

I'm not saying hunting, fishing, and college football aren't interesting, but they don't strike me as especially unusual or fascinating. Or maybe you are just saying you think your fellow posters are exceptionally boring people?

barfo

I'm guessing that Phil Robertson isn't anonymously participating in an internet thread that is dedicated to any of us here at S2.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

I'm guessing that Phil Robertson isn't anonymously participating in an internet thread that is dedicated to any of us here at S2.

I wouldn't be surprised. The drama that goes on here is the stuff of legend

 

[maxiep]

Good publicity all around.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Good publicity all around.

Is it? I am sure the rainbow warriors and Jackson followers will soon be boycotting and picketing stores to remove all duck calls of theirs

 

[Denny Crane]

Is it? I am sure the rainbow warriors and Jackson followers will soon be boycotting and picketing stores to remove all duck calls of theirs

Sounds like 1st amendment free speech and assembly to me.

 

[maxiep]

Is it? I am sure the rainbow warriors and Jackson followers will soon be boycotting and picketing stores to remove all duck calls of theirs

You bet it is. I now know the name of a guy whose show I have never seen. I now know that show is on A&E. A&E gets to pose pro their politically correct snapshot, making a stand for the gay community. And while I still have no interest in watching it, I know lots of people who are tuning in to see what all the fuss is about.

A&E gets higher ratings, and Duck Dynasty is more popular than ever. Win-win.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You bet it is. I now know the name of a guy whose show I have never seen. I now know that show is on A&E. A&E gets to pose pro their politically correct snapshot, making a stand for the gay community. And while I still have no interest in watching it, I know lots of people who are tuning in to see what all the fuss is about.

A&E gets higher ratings, and Duck Dynasty is more popular than ever. Win-win.

But the guys from Duck Dynasty aren't rich from the show, they are rich because of their duck calls.