OT Philly

[ehizzy3]

If Philly and New Orleans really wanted to mix it up and go for it I'd love for something like this:

Por: CJ out; Jrue Holiday in
Philly: Simmons and Horford out; Lonzo and CJ in
NO: Jrue and Lonzo out; Simmons and Horford in

I also think Kevin Love would fit pretty much perfectly with Embiid. Cleveland wouldn't swap Love for Horford without some sweeteners though of course.

philly is getting robbed in that

 

[Buffalo Custard]

Saw an interesting article on Brown. The brief summary.

Nice guy; players like him.
Causes frustration by refusal to adapt on the fly.
Causes frustration with perceived lack of accountability.
Front office hired him with the expectation he would only last 2-3 years.
Recent roster changes didn't do him any favors.

Bottom line is that he and Stotts have a lot in common!

 

[GhostOfPGA]

POR: Kevin Love, Darius Garland, Pick Swap (#5)

CLE: CJ, Zach Collins, Pick Swap (high teens?)

Skip on Philly. I Actually think this would benefit both teams, even out lineups for both teams.

Dame / Garland
Trent / Simons
Ariza / Hood / Little
Love / Melo
Nurkic / Whiteside

then pray we land one of Toppin, Wiseman, Ball, Okoro, or Avdija at #5

Cleveland levels out too...

Sexton / Exum
CJ / Windler
Osman / Porter
Nance / Collins
Drummond / Zizic

they can use our pick on a big man.

 

[blazerkor]

POR: Kevin Love, Darius Garland, Pick Swap (#5)

CLE: CJ, Zach Collins, Pick Swap (high teens?)

Skip on Philly. I Actually think this would benefit both teams, even out lineups for both teams.

Dame / Garland
Trent / Simons
Ariza / Hood / Little
Love / Melo
Nurkic / Whiteside

then pray we land one of Toppin, Wiseman, Ball, Okoro, or Avdija at #5

Cleveland levels out too...

Sexton / Exum
CJ / Windler
Osman / Porter
Nance / Collins
Drummond / Zizic

they can use our pick on a big man.

I think your prospects of landing one of five players with the fifth pick are pretty good, probably no need for any prayers on that one.

 

[GhostOfPGA]

I think your prospects of landing one of five players with the fifth pick are pretty good, probably no need for any prayers on that one.

Well obviously yeah but more emphasis on Toppin or Wiseman.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Plus ça change...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I was thinking about the Bill Simmons Podcast suggestion of CJ and RoCo for Simmons. A way it would almost make sense for the Sixers is if they could be assured of getting Kyle Lowry. Is that possible?

(Also: Morey has acquired RoCo before, and of course RoCo was a Sixer before.)

 

[HolyBackboard]

If I was Philly, I'd play CJ at the 1.

McCollum/Thybulle/Covington/Harris/Embiid
Maxey/Curry/Korkmaz/Howard off the bench

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[TBpup]

I get fans tend to overvalue their players, but come on! The best clutch shooter in the NBA for perhaps the worst shooter in the NBA? I think not.

 

[illmatic99]

I get fans tend to overvalue their players, but come on! The best clutch shooter in the NBA for perhaps the worst shooter in the NBA? I think not.

Read the comments. Nearly everyone there thinks Simmons' value is a lot closer to that of CJ than Dame. Which is just unbelievable in my mind. I really hope Daryl listens to their fans.

 

[Hoopguru]

I was thinking about the Bill Simmons Podcast suggestion of CJ and RoCo for Simmons. A way it would almost make sense for the Sixers is if they could be assured of getting Kyle Lowry. Is that possible?

(Also: Morey has acquired RoCo before, and of course RoCo was a Sixer before.)

Morey would want Ant, imo.

 

[BonesJones]

Simmons is getting close to his ceiling IMO. People base too much off age and not off of what a players ceiling is. Wiggins was going to keep getting better because of his "age", and he didnt.

Ben Simmons is one of the most overrated players in the league. Not good enough to be a #1 but his game doesnt fit that of a #2 (which would be the only reason Philly would trade him in the first place).

Hmmm....

 

[BonesJones]

I'd rather trade for Tobias than Simmons.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't understand why Simmons can't/won't shoot. What broke his confidence?

 

[Haakzilla]

I don't understand why Simmons can't/won't shoot. What broke his confidence?

...his playing career

 

[Pinwheel1]

We could live with Simmons not taking a jump shot. His ball-handling (and size) allows him to get the rim.
But what we couldn't live with is his poor free-throw shooting. That HAS to get better. And I find it hard to believe it can't.
Even Andre Jordan eventually improved (Until this year)

But his D and Passing and rebounding are hard to resist. Even if he is overpaid.

 

[illmatic99]

We could live with Simmons not taking a jump shot. His ball-handling (and size) allows him to get the rim.
But what we couldn't live with is his poor free-throw shooting. That HAS to get better. And I find it hard to believe it can't.
Even Andre Jordan eventually improved (Until this year)

But his D and Passing and rebounding are hard to resist. Even if he is overpaid.

he's shooting 34% from the line this year.

But he shot 71% his rookie year on nearly the same number of attempts. And 58% the subsequent year.

think he's just got some mental stuff going on at the line. it's not unusual.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

CJ for Simmons would be ideal them have Simons spend the summer shooting drills with Dame

 

[damianlillard]

I'd rather trade for Tobias than Simmons.

Same. Simmons free throw shooting is what scare me away. I much rather have Harris when the game is on the line and we need a shot.

 

[illmatic99]

I don't understand why Simmons can't/won't shoot. What broke his confidence?

coaches coddling him and telling him it's fine if he doesn't.

 

[illmatic99]

Same. Simmons free throw shooting is what scare me away. I much rather have Harris when the game is on the line and we need a shot.

we gonna completely ignore the other side of the floor? or the passing?

 

[Chris Craig]

Same. Simmons free throw shooting is what scare me away. I much rather have Harris when the game is on the line and we need a shot.

Yeah, it will be double team Dame and hack a Shaq Simmons. No good

 

[Rastapopoulos]

A way it would almost make sense for the Sixers is if they could be assured of getting Kyle Lowry. Is that possible?

From Eric Koreen in the Athletic:

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If I'm Morey, I don't panic, I don't trade Simmons for anybody, and I focus on shoring up the bench. Simmons is not the problem, even with his shooting woes.



Remember: the one game Embiid was out in the playoffs, they won, and Simmons played well.

If they can do Koreen's suggested Lowry trade they don't need anything else.

 

[Hoopguru]

If I'm Morey, I don't panic, I don't trade Simmons for anybody, and I focus on shoring up the bench. Simmons is not the problem, even with his shooting woes.

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Remember: the one game Embiid was out in the playoffs, they won, and Simmons played well.

If they can do Koreen's suggested Lowry trade they don't need anything else.

What do you mean nobody?
Simmons and Embiid occupy the same space much of the time because he cant shoot.

 

[TBpup]

Simmons shot DOUBLE from the field what he shot from the FT line. That is almost unimaginable.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Simmons is a center under MDA.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Simmons is a center under MDA.

Especially if we trade MDA's past center (RoCo) for him.

 

[Rastapopoulos]