Plausible CJ trades that don't involve the Sixers?

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Rastapopoulos said:
We have a need for a 7'2" guy who plays 6'2" and is always injured?
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We have a need to big guy that can shoot and board and block shots. Like I said not sure I would want him and its because of what you bring up.
We need a legit 4 imo as RoCo plays out of position. I would think we could pkg CJ & some for a 4/3.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Yeah, the Knicks make sense until you look at their salaries (and the fact that they just signed a bunch of people). The guy they have that we'd want is Barrett and they ain't giving him up for CJ.
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Barrett would be a nice get but they'd want more than CJ.
 
Gotta look for desperate teams. Pelicans are jumping off the page for me. But I dont really want anyone outside of Ingram on their team.
 
Chris Craig said:
SAC: CJ McCollum and Robert Covington for Buddy Hield, Marvin Bagley, and Damion Jones.

MIN: CJ McCollum, Robert Covington, 1st, for Karl Anthony Towns and Taurean Prince

GSW: CJ McCollum and a 1st for Draymond Green and Jonathan Kuminga

NOP: CJ McCollum for Brandon Ingram

WAS: CJ McCollum and Robert Covington for Bradley Beal and Kyle Kuzma. (Or KCP)

IND: CJ McCollum, Robert Covington, and two 1sts for Domantas Sabonis, Caris Lavert, and Chris Duarte. (Could also add Jusuf in and take out a first and IND would throw in TJ Warren)

CLE: CJ McCollum and Robert Covington for Kevin Love, Isaac Okoro, and Darius Garland.
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I'd do any of those except the SAC; kind of doubt if the other teams would though?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Breaking my rule again, but only in letter, because Sixers would actually like this one (it's the latest version of an old fave):

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(And I only propose this because RoCo seems so much worse this year and we stand to lose him in the offseason.) We could add in a wrinkle and instantly become the most lovable team in the league:

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I like the first one. Just read somewhere that Harris is playing really good D this year.
 
illmatic99 said:
Gotta look for desperate teams. Pelicans are jumping off the page for me. But I dont really want anyone outside of Ingram on their team.
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CJ for Imgram would be a great deal for the Blazers....which means Portland would have to add a lot more. CJ + 2 firsts? Would the Pels even consider that...I don't know why they would. Too bad CJ doesn't have an expiring contract

The Pels sure went from a team with upside to a shit team in a damn hurry
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Breaking my rule again, but only in letter, because Sixers would actually like this one (it's the latest version of an old fave):

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(And I only propose this because RoCo seems so much worse this year and we stand to lose him in the offseason.) We could add in a wrinkle and instantly become the most lovable team in the league:

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It pains me to say it but I think Seth has been better than CJ this year. He’s scoring more efficiently and isn’t prone to iso ball. He gets his shots within the offense and doesn’t freeze teammates out.
 
Orion Bailey said:
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@Rastapopoulos

interested in this?
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Sure, except:
(a) The reason the Pacers are interested in trading at all is because Turner and Sabonis are supposed to be a poor fit together, but why trade both? And wouldn't Portland then have the same problem?
(b) I'm pretty sure the Pacers wouldn't consider that trade.
 
CJ has a bad contract. He is overpaid some and a vet. Portland would have to take some garbage/bad contracts back to sweeten the deal. I think you have to look at teams that absolutely needs a pure shooter/elite shot creator. CJ would be an ideal candidate for such a team. At the deadline, teams looking to make a push for a deep playoff run/dealing with injuries may also take a risk on CJ.
 
You probably can't trade CJ for a wing you like today. You have to trade him for a project wing that might look good tomorrow, a post-hype, pre-production wing most likely. Examples of these recently include Brandon Ingram and Andrew Wiggins. They were past their hype phase, but hadn't really panned out as productive players. Ingram wasn't overpaid yet, so he was more valuable at the time of trade, but not a hugely valuable player. Wiggins was overpaid, but the Warriors traded a very CJ-like player in DeAngelo Russell--also overpaid for what he provided, but Wiggins was a superior fit for Golden State.

Nobody would have been too thrilled with either Ingram or Wiggins at the time of trade, but either player would make Portland better in place of McCollum, IMO. That's the type of wing to look for, because any wing currently playing well isn't going to be dealt for McCollum, IMO.
 
Minstrel said:
You probably can't trade CJ for a wing you like today. You have to trade him for a project wing that might look good tomorrow, a post-hype, pre-production wing most likely. Examples of these recently include Brandon Ingram and Andrew Wiggins. They were past their hype phase, but hadn't really panned out as productive players. Ingram wasn't overpaid yet, so he was more valuable at the time of trade, but not a hugely valuable player. Wiggins was overpaid, but the Warriors traded a very CJ-like player in DeAngelo Russell--also overpaid for what he provided, but Wiggins was a superior fit for Golden State.

Nobody would have been too thrilled with either Ingram or Wiggins at the time of trade, but either player would make Portland better in place of McCollum, IMO. That's the type of wing to look for, because any wing currently playing well isn't going to be dealt for McCollum, IMO.
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ive been intrigued by the wing factory down in ATL (pun intended) for a while now.

And their record so far screams for consolidation. Not sure CJ is the right piece for them but Hunter/Reddish/Huerter/Bogie all deserve 30+ mpg, but those mins just aren't there. AND they're in luxury tax hell for the near future if they want to retain even half these guys.

Bogie + Reddish/Hunter for CJ would be a dream for me.

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illmatic99 said:
ive been intrigued by the wing factory down in ATL (pun intended) for a while now.

And their record so far screams for consolidation. Not sure CJ is the right piece for them but Hunter/Reddish/Huerter/Bogie all deserve 30+ mpg, but those mins just aren't there. AND they're in luxury tax hell for the near future if they want to retain even half these guys.

Bogie + Reddish/Hunter for CJ would be a dream for me.

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I agree, prying one of the Atlanta wings away would be ideal. I think Reddish is the best target--has talent, but quite inconsistent. He's probably the one they find most frustrating (Portland coaches/decision-makers would just have to believe they could coax consistency from him).
 
Minstrel said:
You probably can't trade CJ for a wing you like today. You have to trade him for a project wing that might look good tomorrow, a post-hype, pre-production wing most likely. Examples of these recently include Brandon Ingram and Andrew Wiggins. They were past their hype phase, but hadn't really panned out as productive players. Ingram wasn't overpaid yet, so he was more valuable at the time of trade, but not a hugely valuable player. Wiggins was overpaid, but the Warriors traded a very CJ-like player in DeAngelo Russell--also overpaid for what he provided, but Wiggins was a superior fit for Golden State.

Nobody would have been too thrilled with either Ingram or Wiggins at the time of trade, but either player would make Portland better in place of McCollum, IMO. That's the type of wing to look for, because any wing currently playing well isn't going to be dealt for McCollum, IMO.
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ive always liked Ingram.
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I say again: would Atlanta REALLY start a backcourt of Trae and CJ? Really? Are they trying to drive Nate McMillan to quit? I don't see it.
 
Pacers are the best bet, I think. They have stalwart defender Brogdon at one guard spot and Turner behind to clean up any defensive messes. They also have a slew of mid-size contracts for not-as-good-as-CJ scorers (LeVert, Warren, Lamb) that could be bundled with the main target: Duarte.

That said, it's probably more likely that the Pacers are happy to sit on Duarte.
 
illmatic99 said:
ive been intrigued by the wing factory down in ATL (pun intended) for a while now.

And their record so far screams for consolidation. Not sure CJ is the right piece for them but Hunter/Reddish/Huerter/Bogie all deserve 30+ mpg, but those mins just aren't there. AND they're in luxury tax hell for the near future if they want to retain even half these guys.

Bogie + Reddish/Hunter for CJ would be a dream for me.

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It goes against the anti-Philly premise of the thread, but I could see some sort of 3 way deal, where Atlanta gets Simmons, we get pieces from Atlanta, and Philly get s CJ plus stuff from Atlanta.
 
Only way I see it is either something for Simmons or a three way trade where Simmons is directed somewhere else. CJ looks like a poor fit for most teams in the league and his contract is very expensive. We are in a very tough spot and we should have traded him a couple years ago.
 
Avdija is kind of out of the rotation in Washington, but has promise. Maybe if they want to shoot for the moon to really make sure Beal doesn't want to leave?
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Fun fact: KCP was taken two picks ahead of CJ. He brings the defense, Bertans brings the shooting (like: better than Curry 3%) and Avdija brings the future potential...
 

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Minstrel said:
You probably can't trade CJ for a wing you like today. You have to trade him for a project wing that might look good tomorrow, a post-hype, pre-production wing most likely. Examples of these recently include Brandon Ingram and Andrew Wiggins. They were past their hype phase, but hadn't really panned out as productive players. Ingram wasn't overpaid yet, so he was more valuable at the time of trade, but not a hugely valuable player. Wiggins was overpaid, but the Warriors traded a very CJ-like player in DeAngelo Russell--also overpaid for what he provided, but Wiggins was a superior fit for Golden State.

Nobody would have been too thrilled with either Ingram or Wiggins at the time of trade, but either player would make Portland better in place of McCollum, IMO. That's the type of wing to look for, because any wing currently playing well isn't going to be dealt for McCollum, IMO.
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Depends on needs and the trading partners roster construct. If a team has a glut at the wing spot and needs more shooting/creating and are looking for a jolt to rejuvenate their season than I think it’s possible.

Look at a team like the Raptors. Scottie Barnes looks like a star in the waiting they want to get him minutes immediately. OG Anonoby has blossomed and is younger than Siakam.

But then again I don’t think Ujiri is dumb and would pair CJ in the back court with Van Vleet
 
MickZagger said:
Depends on needs and the trading partners roster construct. If a team has a glut at the wing spot and needs more shooting/creating and are looking for a jolt to rejuvenate their season than I think it’s possible.
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Sure, but my point is that a good wing is fundamentally higher value than CJ. Your point would work if it were a two team league, like just the Raptors and Blazers to trade with each other. But if I'm correct that a good wing carries more value than CJ, the overwhelming likelihood is that another team can offer more than CJ while still helping fulfill a need.

I think that if the Raptors did put Siakam on the trade block, there would be tastier offers out their for them than CJ.
 
Shaboid said:
Doesn't involve CJ but who besides the Raptors don't do this? (Yes, I hate clutch points too)

https://clutchpoints.com/blazers-trade-that-damian-lillard-needs-done-asap/

Trail Blazers receive: Pascal Siakam and Goran Dragic


Raptors receive: Nassir Little, Anfernee Simons, Larry Nance Jr., Robert Covington, and a future 1st round draft pick
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I don't do that deal; it absolutely destroys our forward depth, and does nothing to correct our overabundance of guards. We'd be starting Norm and Siakam at 3-4, and our reserve forwards would be Snell and Brown.
 
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