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Whyachi said:
credit Mike from Locked on Blazers. He drifted into enemy territory, and sold Jerami Grant hard to the Locked on Lakers guys. I left the pod believing Jerami Grant is an MVP candidate on a salary cap friendly contract.
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Mike is my go-to guy in Blazers related podcasts. Never too high, never too low. I feel cleverer about my team when listening to him. And his dedication in his every day podcast (except for a few weeks) is impressive. I have a weekly podcast and it's really time consuming. I appreciate the effort.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Probably want to give us Lyles and nothing else. Maybe a 2nd?
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Timelord would fit into the MLE and I believe the Kings could use it without going over the 1st apron

but yeah, they'd probably want to move some salary

a 2nd round pick for Timelord works for me. Maybe pry two 2nd's
 
Houston paid 3 2nds for a broken Steven Adams when it was widely reported they were interested in Rob Williams first. That's the least I would take for Rob. But even then I think the risk/reward of maybe prying a future 1st if he proves he's healthy is worth more than a few seconds. Pretty sure that's how the team feels as well, especially since they just moved a 2nd for 3 future 2nds and then sold another one for nothing.
 
B-Roy said:
Houston paid 3 2nds for a broken Steven Adams when it was widely reported they were interested in Rob Williams first. That's the least I would take for Rob. But even then I think the risk/reward of maybe prying a future 1st if he proves he's healthy is worth more than a few seconds. Pretty sure that's how the team feels as well, especially since they just moved a 2nd for 3 future 2nds and then sold another one for nothing.
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* Adams has played 70 or more games in a season 7 times; he's played 80 games or more 4 times
* Timelord has played 60 games or more one time when he played 61

* Adams has averaged over 25 minutes/game 9 times
* Timelord has averaged over 25 minutes one time

* prior to last season, Adams had averaged playing in 71 games a season
* prior to last season, Timelord had averaged 42 games/season

* including last season, Adams has averaged 64 games
* including last season, Timelord has averaged 38 games

trying to prop up Timelord's trade value by labeling Adams "broken" in comparison is a joke, right?
 
I would assume calling Adams broken was in reference to him being out for the season for knee surgery, but don't let me stop you from doing a career games played recap of two scrubs
 
wizenheimer said:
* Adams has played 70 or more games in a season 7 times; he's played 80 games or more 4 times
* Timelord has played 60 games or more one time when he played 61

* Adams has averaged over 25 minutes/game 9 times
* Timelord has averaged over 25 minutes one time

* prior to last season, Adams had averaged playing in 71 games a season
* prior to last season, Timelord had averaged 42 games/season

* including last season, Adams has averaged 64 games
* including last season, Timelord has averaged 38 games

trying to prop up Timelord's trade value by labeling Adams "broken" in comparison is a joke, right?
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Adams was out for the season, like Timelord. It was widely reported they wanted Timelord, and ended up paying 3 2nds for Adams. You don't have to see it the same way, but that's what it is.
 
B-Roy said:
Adams was out for the season, like Timelord. It was widely reported they wanted Timelord, and ended up paying 3 2nds for Adams. You don't have to see it the same way, but that's what it is.
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I get that, but just because Houston paid that price doesn't mean any team would pay the same for Williams. There's also the factor that Houston was dumping the very negative value of Oladipo. The exchange rate for his contract was likely at least one of those 2nd round picks
 
BigGameDamian said:
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I don't know if there's any real strategic advantage to ditching RW3 contact a year early, but he is a big waste of money. He was more than just a filler in the Dame trade, he was supposed to be one of the key returns. I don't trust him to ever play meaningful minutes for us though.
 
beast crnjo said:
I don't know if there's any real strategic advantage to ditching RW3 contact a year early, but he is a big waste of money. He was more than just a filler in the Dame trade, he was supposed to be one of the key returns. I don't trust him to ever play meaningful minutes for us though.
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guys who get hurt and miss the season always seem like such a big waste of money. that's the gamble you get with rwiii, i guess.
 
Wow, talk about a worthless article. But since this is probably the slowest time of the year for NBA news, I can see why Amico is sharing a post from Ashish.

Yes, the Blazers could trade anyone on the roster.
 
Rastapopoulos said:


"Plenty of teams"? NAME THEM
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Man screw Aaron J. Fentress, he is one of the worse reporters around and super bias. I’m sure he got that from reading this forum lol.

the way he was engaging and posting about the Dame trade on Twitter, and how we’re are doing him wrong by not sending him to Miami and should do him a favor, even if it hurt us as a franchise.

He was almost trolling on Twitter regularly about it, while getting roasted in the comments, from me included. And he blocked me on Twitter lmao.

I don’t take anything that guy says.
 
These stories of the Blazers should / might etc trade so and so are so obvious that any clown could report this shit and be right at least to a certain degree. The truth as i see it unless something magical on the court happens we should see at least 2 of the 3 if not all 3 gone from the Blazers. This is not breaking news or anything just common damn sense.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
These stories of the Blazers should / might etc trade so and so are so obvious that any clown could report this shit and be right at least to a certain degree. The truth as i see it unless something magical on the court happens we should see at least 2 of the 3 if not all 3 gone from the Blazers. This is not breaking news or anything just common damn sense.
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It’s common sense that you guys think you’re so right lol. Why don’t you guys go and try to become a GM?

anyways, if the right deal is to be had sure, so it’s not about trading them in here, it’s what people what to trade them for. A lot of it will make us take a step back, and we already suck.

It’s all about getting fair value for them, if not keep them. If Cronin makes another CJ type trade people here will rip him lol.
 
sheed30 said:
It’s common sense that you guys think you’re so right lol. Why don’t you guys go and try to become a GM?

anyways, if the right deal is to be had sure, so it’s not about trading them in here, it’s what people what to trade them for. A lot of it will make us take a step back, and we already suck.

It’s all about getting fair value for them, if not keep them. If Cronin makes another CJ type trade people here will rip him lol.
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I never said they should be traded for nothing matter of fact in another post someplace on this forum I said Cronin who I am not a fan of has handled the situation very well and they SHOULD NOT just be traded for spare parts. However as someone pointed out to me that keeping them all might end up stunting the growth of certain younger players too. While the Blazers should try there best to get the most they can for these players at some point they might have to take 80 to 90% of that players worth so this team can move forward. Also and hate to break it to you this team BEST case scenario is prolly two seasons IF everything breaks right for the team to MAYBE sneak into the playoff picture cause as we all know the west is tough and that is a fact. One more thing the GM thing no one said being a GM was easy and the way you came off are you friends with Cronin or something cause your trying to defend him ( even though he was not being attacked BTW ) like your buddies with him or something.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
I never said they should be traded for nothing matter of fact in another post someplace on this forum I said Cronin who I am not a fan of has handled the situation very well and they SHOULD NOT just be traded for spare parts. However as someone pointed out to me that keeping them all might end up stunting the growth of certain younger players too. While the Blazers should try there best to get the most they can for these players at some point they might have to take 80 to 90% of that players worth so this team can move forward. Also and hate to break it to you this team BEST case scenario is prolly two seasons IF everything breaks right for the team to MAYBE sneak into the playoff picture cause as we all know the west is tough and that is a fact. One more thing the GM thing no one said being a GM was easy and the way you came off are you friends with Cronin or something cause your trying to defend him ( even though he was not being attacked BTW ) like your buddies with him or something.
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Nah I’m more pushing back on the fact that we don’t know what offers are there for Grant and Ant. Some are basically saying dump them or take what we can get regardless of how bad it is before training camp and I think that’s just dumb.

plus if it’s well known we need or should trade those two they why will any team send us fair value back right now?

how about play hard ball, and keep them into the season if we aren’t getting fair value and let OTHER teams up the offer when they get more desperate as next season goes on for teams that want Ant and Grant. We ain’t going anywhere next season, what’s the rush to dump them? So that’s my argument back.

Cronin has to play chess here or else we are going to get another CJ type trade that doenst really benefit us and the negativity Nancy’s in here will come for Cronin’s head.

Cronin played the Dame trade well and didn’t cave into the pressure or rush to trade Dame and got fair value back.

that’s what I want him to do here too.

A few posters here and they know who they are, are going to throw a hissy fit if we have Ant and Grant on the team to start the season, when they don’t know what the offers are.
 
Grant and Simons are the future! Two best players on the team as of right now.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
This is a surprisingly thoughtful piece (using actual stats!)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/matissa/2024/07/31/this-team-needs-to-trade-for-anfernee-simons/

(Of course, I'm biased, because I've suggested exactly the same trade before
Rastapopoulos said:
This is a surprisingly thoughtful piece (using actual stats!)
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Rastapopoulos said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/matissa/2024/07/31/this-team-needs-to-trade-for-anfernee-simons/

(Of course, I'm biased, because I've suggested exactly the same trade before.)
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http://www.sportstwo.com/posts/5657493/
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what would you do with Cole Anthony?

are we sure anthony black is any good?
 
sheed30 said:
Nah I’m more pushing back on the fact that we don’t know what offers are there for Grant and Ant. Some are basically saying dump them or take what we can get regardless of how bad it is before training camp and I think that’s just dumb.

plus if it’s well known we need or should trade those two they why will any team send us fair value back right now?

how about play hard ball, and keep them into the season if we aren’t getting fair value and let OTHER teams up the offer when they get more desperate as next season goes on for teams that want Ant and Grant. We ain’t going anywhere next season, what’s the rush to dump them? So that’s my argument back.

Cronin has to play chess here or else we are going to get another CJ type trade that doenst really benefit us and the negativity Nancy’s in here will come for Cronin’s head.

Cronin played the Dame trade well and didn’t cave into the pressure or rush to trade Dame and got fair value back.

that’s what I want him to do here too.

A few posters here and they know who they are, are going to throw a hissy fit if we have Ant and Grant on the team to start the season, when they don’t know what the offers are.
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I'll step forward and say that I want both Ant and Grant traded. No secret there. I would prefer Ant traded over Grant, but there seems to be little if no market for him. That could be a product of Cronin wanting too much in return for him. It could also be product of Ant's game. He is all offense, no defense. We can agree about the defense. But Dame was the same, but his offense and will to win was a whole other level making his defensive inabilities passable. Ant just isn't there and I do not foresee it. Just an opinion. I also do not see Ant getting a big contract like Grant did after this one expires. I could be wrong because of the new tv contracts and the crazy money that will be available. I am thinking Ant will have to get used to being instant offense off of the bench in the future, and teams aren't paying as much for sixth men these days. As a fan, I would much rather see Scoot struggle and overcome early than Ant play a much lower version of Dame. I like the prospect of Scoot getting his shot together, learning to finish better, but with both hands as has been pointed out. I love the prospects of him being a great passer finding teammates for not just open threes but spectacular dunks as well. Yes, he needs to learn the NBA game and protect the ball better, but aren't we watching the top point guard in the WNBA, a certifiable generational player struggling with the same fundamentals. Scoot also shows the potential to be a good defensive player as well. He has both size and speed with that wing span. Plus the want to excel defensively. I am not looking for Scoot to be the best player on the team nor the top offensive player. I am looking for Scoot to be the leader both offensively in distributing the ball and setting a tone defensively. I want 8+ assists per game and productive shooting splits on decent volume, not huge volume. I don't care if Scoot scores 12 points per game or 20. I want him to wear his ass off on defense and distribute the ball and score when the opportunity is there. The anti-Ant. As for Grant, he is getting just too much money to be on a rebuilding team that needs more ping pong balls, which trading him would provide. Unfortunately those ping pong balls will not be in the next draft. At least LA has interest in Grant. Get the deal done, open cap space to take on a contract for more draft capital and move this rebuild into overdrive. I look forward to seeing Scoot, Sharpe, Avdija and Ayton playing to win but coming up short and getting the top pick in the next draft. I don't live in Portland, but I would rather pay to see that lineup than one that has Ant/Grant playing ISO ball with no movement and little defensive effort. But that is just me.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Squint at him and pretend he's his dad.


Are we sure Anfernee is?
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with this rationale why not just wait until Ant expires? it doesn’t seem like you think much of black. his summer league and nba minutes weren’t very impressive, was able to watch a fair amount of magic this year. what did you think of Anthony black?
 
Samuel said:
it doesn’t seem like you think much of black.
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On the contrary, I think that Black is a special player, especially on defense. He's very similar to Stephon Castle, only even larger. His Achilles heel is shooting, unfortunately, but he was the proverbial "too good for Summer League" this year and even if he never becomes a great shooter he could have a less-athletic-Iguodala career. "If he's so good, why would Orlando trade him?" Because they can't really expect to win with him AND Suggs in the backcourt, and they have Franz Wagner at SF. Meanwhile, as that article points out, they could really use the shooting that is Anfernee's strength. (Of course, in theory, so could we, but we're not trying to win right now.)


 
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