Playoffs in the Lillard era

[mook]

Aldridge era Blazers in the playoffs: 12-22 .333
Post-Aldridge era: 5-4 .556

This isn't just about Portland's current playoff luck with injuries. We had Aldridge for 9 seasons--that's a lot of playoff futility for a "franchise" player, for the guy who wanted to be the Best Blazer Ever (until he didn't).

The post-Aldridge era (or as I call it, the Lillard era) is a small sample size, but does anybody really expect Lillard's teams to experience that level of futility over the coming decade?

 

[KingSpeed]

Aldridge era Blazers in the playoffs: 12-22 .333
Post-Aldridge era: 5-4 .556

This isn't just about Portland's current playoff luck with injuries. We had Aldridge for 9 seasons--that's a lot of playoff futility for a "franchise" player, for the guy who wanted to be the Best Blazer Ever (until he didn't).

The post-Aldridge era (or as I call it, the Lillard era) is a small sample size, but does anybody really expect Lillard's teams to experience that level of futility over the coming decade?

Nope. This is the first time that we've won at least one of the first three games in the second round since 2000. Lillard rules.

 

[Strenuus]

Aldridge era Blazers in the playoffs: 12-22 .333
Post-Aldridge era: 5-4 .556

This isn't just about Portland's current playoff luck with injuries. We had Aldridge for 9 seasons--that's a lot of playoff futility for a "franchise" player, for the guy who wanted to be the Best Blazer Ever (until he didn't).

The post-Aldridge era (or as I call it, the Lillard era) is a small sample size, but does anybody really expect Lillard's teams to experience that level of futility over the coming decade?

We've already done more with Lillard than we did with that other Blazer.

So, easiest answer ever. No.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Two different positions. However, their mentality is completely different. Lillard could replace Chuck Norris in all those internet memes. In the Revenant he would have broke that bear's arm and stabbed it with it.

Aldridge had to grow up babied, I could be wrong and his life may have been hell but I doubt it.

 

[ThugginPaulyGAllen]

Aldridge era Blazers in the playoffs: 12-22 .333
Post-Aldridge era: 5-4 .556

This isn't just about Portland's current playoff luck with injuries. We had Aldridge for 9 seasons--that's a lot of playoff futility for a "franchise" player, for the guy who wanted to be the Best Blazer Ever (until he didn't).

The post-Aldridge era (or as I call it, the Lillard era) is a small sample size, but does anybody really expect Lillard's teams to experience that level of futility over the coming decade?

No. I don't expect to experience that futility. But, two completely different positions. It is way harder to be a dominant 'go to' big guy in this league than it is to be a dominant guard. Why? Usage, not having to rely people to get you the ball on time, in your spots, etc. So I don't believe it is an apt comparison, but it harkens back to me saying LMA isn't a go to player, no big guy is really. Can't create/get your own shot...you're screwed.

 

[Rhal]

No. I don't expect to experience that futility. But, two completely different positions. It is way harder to be a dominant 'go to' big guy in this league than it is to be a dominant guard. Why? Usage, not having to rely people to get you the ball on time, in your spots, etc. So I don't believe it is an apt comparison, but it harkens back to me saying LMA isn't a go to player, no big guy is really. Can't create/get your own shot...you're screwed.

Its definetly harder for a big to create there own shot then a gaurd but LMA has a higher USG in the playoffs then Lillard.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lillada01.html#playoffs_advanced::none
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01.html#playoffs_advanced::none

 

[BlazerCaravan]

There is no Aldridge Era playoff record. There is a Brandon Roy era record (6-12) and there is a Damian Lillard era (11-14). LaMarcus alone never made the playoffs.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Two different positions. However, their mentality is completely different. Lillard could replace Chuck Norris in all those internet memes. In the Revenant he would have broke that bear's arm and stabbed it with it.

Aldridge had to grow up babied, I could be wrong and his life may have been hell but I doubt it.

He built a house for his shoes after signing with the Spurs. So, it's not all bad for him.

 

[dviss1]

There is no Aldridge Era playoff record. There is a Brandon Roy era record (6-12) and there is a Damian Lillard era (11-14). LaMarcus alone never made the playoffs.

/thread

 

[Natebishop3]

There is no Aldridge Era playoff record. There is a Brandon Roy era record (6-12) and there is a Damian Lillard era (11-14). LaMarcus alone never made the playoffs.

Burn!

 

[Elton]

It's amazing to even be discussing this already.

 

[blue9]

There is no Aldridge Era playoff record. There is a Brandon Roy era record (6-12) and there is a Damian Lillard era (11-14). LaMarcus alone never made the playoffs.

Exactly.
And Lillard's era, in one year, has produced better results than Roy's entire career, despite having a worse roster. I think we can close the door on who is the better player.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Kevin Love has never lost a playoff game.

4-0 vs the Celtics last year

4-0 vs the Pistons this year

4-0 vs the Hawks this year

(No Nate, I didn't just copy this from reddit, I swear I don't know what you're talking about.)

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Kevin Love has never lost a playoff game.

4-0 vs the Celtics last year

4-0 vs the Pistons this year

4-0 vs the Hawks this year

(No Nate, I didn't just copy this from reddit, I swear I don't know what you're talking about.)

How does that work? Did he get injured last year?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

How does that work? Did he get injured last year?

His arm got ripped out of his socket by a certain @MickZagger man crush.

 

[Natebishop3]

His arm got ripped out of his socket by a certain @MickZagger man crush.

Well that's disgusting.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Exactly.
And Lillard's era, in one year, has produced better results than Roy's entire career, despite having a worse roster. I think we can close the door on who is the better player.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here. We have no idea what kind of player Roy could have been with Stotts as his coach - or how effective Dame would have been playing for Nate. As you said, Nate had a better roster to work with, and still found a way to run a baboon-ass-ugly offense. I can honestly see Nate wrecking Dame's career. OTOH, Roy might have thrived under Stotts.

 

[oldmangrouch]

His arm got ripped out of his socket by a certain @MickZagger man crush.

That's disgusting. Bring the right hand over and grab your left wrist. How are you going to get any leverage like that?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here. We have no idea what kind of player Roy could have been with Stotts as his coach - or how effective Dame would have been playing for Nate. As you said, Nate had a better roster to work with, and still found a way to run a baboon-ass-ugly offense. I can honestly see Nate wrecking Dame's career. OTOH, Roy might have thrived under Stotts.

The thing is, Roy would have thrived... for five years tops before his knees gave out.

 

[crandc]

Aldridge most definitely did not grow up pampered. Look it up.

Hey, I love Dame as much as the next Blazers fanatic, but really, can't we praise Dame without dissing Aldridge? They are different players who had, mostly, different teammates, different coaches, played different teams. While we may remember Lillard's 0.9 second 3, it was Aldridge who blew Houston out of their own building in Games 1 and 2 of that series. I don't think I need to forget that in order to love Damian.

There are a lot of axe murderers and baby rapers and psychopaths in the world if you really feel the need to hate someone. Personally I'd LOVE to play the Spurs in the WCF.

 

[Natebishop3]

Aldridge most definitely did not grow up pampered. Look it up.

Hey, I love Dame as much as the next Blazers fanatic, but really, can't we praise Dame without dissing Aldridge? They are different players who had, mostly, different teammates, different coaches, played different teams. While we may remember Lillard's 0.9 second 3, it was Aldridge who blew Houston out of their own building in Games 1 and 2 of that series. I don't think I need to forget that in order to love Damian.

There are a lot of axe murderers and baby rapers and psychopaths in the world if you really feel the need to hate someone. Personally I'd LOVE to play the Spurs in the WCF.

I don't think it's a hate for the person, in real life. I don't know Aldridge personally. I think when someone says that they hate a player, they're talking about the player as a character in the TV show that is NBA basketball. For most fans, these guys are larger than life. They hate the basketball player, but not so much the man. It's like saying you hate a character in a book, or a movie. "Oh, I hate that guy!"

If someone feels an all-consuming hate for LaMarcus, they need to take a step back.

 

[Orion Bailey]

There is no Aldridge Era playoff record. There is a Brandon Roy era record (6-12) and there is a Damian Lillard era (11-14). LaMarcus alone never made the playoffs.

WTF!!!! Sly said you weren't posting anymore to maintain the mojo!!!!! Are you going south on our Blazers????

 

[BlazerCaravan]

WTF!!!! Sly said you weren't posting anymore to maintain the mojo!!!!! Are you going south on our Blazers????

After Game 1, he asked me when I'd come back. I said "screw it, might as well" so I came back before Game 2. We won Game 3 and almost won Game 2 so I get to stay

 

[Orion Bailey]

I don't think it's a hate for the person, in real life. I don't know Aldridge personally. I think when someone says that they hate a player, they're talking about the player as a character in the TV show that is NBA basketball. For most fans, these guys are larger than life. They hate the basketball player, but not so much the man. It's like saying you hate a character in a book, or a movie. "Oh, I hate that guy!"

If someone feels an all-consuming hate for LaMarcus, they need to take a step back.

This goes for most things that don't have person to person contact. Just look at Kings post about HCP. He was mad at HCP, not John.

 

[crandc]

I don't think it's a hate for the person, in real life. I don't know Aldridge personally. I think when someone says that they hate a player, they're talking about the player as a character in the TV show that is NBA basketball. For most fans, these guys are larger than life. They hate the basketball player, but not so much the man. It's like saying you hate a character in a book, or a movie. "Oh, I hate that guy!"

If someone feels an all-consuming hate for LaMarcus, they need to take a step back.

Reminds me of a man I saw on BART Saturday, he looked JUST like the guy on the latest Law & Order SVU who raped a teen model. And I thought "ick", then realized of course the guy on SVU did not actually rape the young woman, he was just an actor who pretended to do so. And was no doubt acting "creepy" for the show, he could have been perfectly nice in real life.

 

[Natebishop3]

Reminds me of a man I saw on BART Saturday, he looked JUST like the guy on the latest Law & Order SVU who raped a teen model. And I thought "ick", then realized of course the guy on SVU did not actually rape the young woman, he was just an actor who pretended to do so. And was no doubt acting "creepy" for the show, he could have been perfectly nice in real life.

A truly great actor can definitely do that. Must be tough to be that good, but have people have this visceral reaction when they see you. There's that story that Anthony Hopkins wife left him after he played Hannibal because she couldn't get the image out of her head. I don't know if that's true or not.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

A truly great actor can definitely do that. Must be tough to be that good, but have people have this visceral reaction when they see you. There's that story that Anthony Hopkins wife left him after he played Hannibal because she couldn't get the image out of her head. I don't know if that's true or not.

Martha Stewart dated Sir Anthony Hopkins, but ended the relationship after she saw The Silence of the Lambs. She stated she was unable to avoid associating Hopkins with the character of Hannibal Lecter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Stewart

 

[andalusian]

Hey, I love Dame as much as the next Blazers fanatic, but really, can't we praise Dame without dissing Aldridge? They are different players who had, mostly, different teammates, different coaches, played different teams. While we may remember Lillard's 0.9 second 3, it was Aldridge who blew Houston out of their own building in Games 1 and 2 of that series. I don't think I need to forget that in order to love Damian.

Well said. The only time I met LMA he was very nice to my kid - and he did give us many years of great games. I will continue to cheer for him anytime he does not play the Blazers.

To be fair however, seen the last Spurs game - and their offense which was so beautiful and free-flowing all the time 2 years ago - seems to go in out of beautiful ball movement to slow-down pound the rock and boring at times - and part of it is their need to feed LMA.

 

[Natebishop3]

Martha Stewart dated Sir Anthony Hopkins, but ended the relationship after she saw The Silence of the Lambs. She stated she was unable to avoid associating Hopkins with the character of Hannibal Lecter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Stewart

That's gotta be extremely frustrating as an actor..... you do such a good job that people can't stop hating you.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

That's gotta be extremely frustrating as an actor..... you do such a good job that people can't stop hating you.

"Oh damn, Martha Stewart hates me, whatever will I do?"

I'm sure he did/does just fine. Also I'm sure there are some women who are interested in him just because he was Lecter.