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Steve Blake is 0-for-the-series, did you know that? And we're getting lit up by everybody prepared to play PG for the Grizzlies. Can we PLEASE give his minutes to Tim Frazier? What's the harm? At this point, I'm guessing the only reason for Blake is so that we can play CJ, but maybe we can just play CJ instead of Blake.

In fact: CJ should spend the summer working on PG skills. If he could be Mo Williams with slightly less disastrous D, then that might be the best role for him.
 
I'm really hoping he retires and we draft a decent pg like Dwright's brother.
 
It seems to me that CJ means that we can't have another small PG. If CJ is going to get minutes, either he has to be a PG or we get a PG who can guard SGs. Are there any candidates in the draft this year?
(Basically, whomever we draft better fucking be an AWESOME defender, because without Wes our backcourt defense has been a sieve.)
 
I really like Steve Blake and his game and he is still more persistent on defense than say lillard; but against a good team that anticipates and is disciplined, his whole game is just too slow.
 
Stotts isn't going to change anything. He hasn't yet and I don't see him change thing for game 4. More of the same, hoping they all have an exceptional shooting night.
If they do and beat the Griz by 30 on a 55% shooting night, it just luck and Stotts will still be inadequate.
 
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MarAzul said:
Stotts isn't going to change anything. He hasn't yet and I don't see him change thing for game 4. More of the same, hoping they all have an exceptional shooting night.
If they do and beat the Griz by 30 on a 55% shooting night, it just luck and Stotts will be still inadequate.
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Pretty much.

We just need a different coach.
 
I posted a few thoughts on the topic in the brutal honesty thread.

Blake HAS to be the worst backup PG in the playoffs and I'd argue the league. If not he's darn close. I'd prefer a guy w/ deficiencies but who can do one or two things well off the bench than Blake's below-average everything game 100 times out of 100.

I'd like to see Batum be our starting PG, Dame at the 2 and a defensive-minded 3. I think that would help. Pairing CJ w/ a larger defensive-minded pg type would help as well and give us a lot of rotational flexibility.

The downside to building around combo guards is finding good fits for backcourt mates. Unfortunately, two of our best pieces moving forward are both combo players who don't exactly make a perfect match...
 
Blake is ok to fill in, be a cog in a wheel but not the driving force.
 
MarAzul said:
I think Batum could be our PG but if that happened, we need a shooter/defender at the SG. Not an undersized SG.
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And do what w/ Dame? He's a 2 in a pg's body and a defensive liability against anyone w/ a pulse. Bring in another defender that's 2 or 3 sized and hide dame on D.

I think that's ab the best we can hope for.
 
glazeduck said:
He's a 2 in a pg's body and a defensive liability
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I agree. What do you want to do with him? Other than hide him which can't be done. There is room for only one PG size guy on the court and he sure as hell better play PG.
 
riverman said:
It's natural to look for scapegoats but Blake isn't the reason we're losing. It's a collective effort.
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He didn't help much but he sure isn't among the top 10 reasons we lost three in a row.
 
MarAzul said:
I agree. What do you want to do with him? Other than hide him which can't be done. There is room for only one PG size guy on the court and he sure as hell better play PG.
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Why? Batum is better with the ball in his hands and maybe not having to run the offense would help Dame's focus on D???

I think a backcourt of Nic, Dam and a Draymond Green/Danby Green/Jimmy Butler/Rudy Gay type would be really effective.
 
I like Stotts but he has clearly been out coached for the last month and he shows it in the post game interviews. He looks visibly shaken to me. He's not even saying I like the way we competed anymore
 
MarAzul said:
He didn't help much but he sure isn't among the top 10 reasons we lost three in a row.
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This, to me, is all about perspective. I'd argue that the absolute nothing he gives us on offense results in our starters having to expend more energy trying to keep us in the game. Could be one reason why Dame is slumping and completely worthless on D.

There's also the opportunity cost argument -- Blake was billed as a key veteran signing. Bringing him in precluded us from going after a guy like Barbosa, Augustin or others.

I think it's fair to argue that a guy who was brought in as a key piece to play D (isn't), score off the bench (doesn't) and run our second unit (can't) is a fairly substantial part of the problem.
 
glazeduck said:
This, to me, is all about perspective. I'd argue that the absolute nothing he gives us on offense results in our starters having to expend more energy trying to keep us in the game. Could be one reason why Dame is slumping and completely worthless on D.

There's also the opportunity cost argument -- Blake was billed as a key veteran signing. Bringing him in precluded us from going after a guy like Barbosa, Augustin or others.

I think it's fair to argue that a guy who was brought in as a key piece to play D (isn't), score off the bench (doesn't) and run our second unit (can't) is a fairly substantial part of the problem.
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All five starters got their ass kicked and the coach was out coached. It doesn't matter who the PG on the bench is.
 
MarAzul said:
All five starters got their ass kicked and the coach was out coached. It doesn't matter who the PG on the bench is.
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We're getting our ass kicked by Calathes and Udrih. Backups can absolutely make a difference. Blake may not the the #1 reason but he has to be on the list.
 
Blake played his best with a healthy Kaman this season. He's come into games and racked up 7 assists in 5 minutes, made some momentum changing shots and helped us win games. He's a role player and wasn't brought here to score. Fact is we came out and got dominated almost every qtr off the series. Poor play is contagious. Our bench has produced more this season than it has for a long time and he's helped. He basically took Earl Watson's spot on the team. CJ was to provide the scoring Mo gave us before and CJ had two horrible games to start the series. You can't dig a first half hole against the best defensive teams and expect to win.
 
riverman said:
Blake played his best with a healthy Kaman this season. He's come into games and racked up 7 assists in 5 minutes, made some momentum changing shots and helped us win games. He's a role player and wasn't brought here to score. Fact is we came out and got dominated almost every qtr off the series. Poor play is contagious. Our bench has produced more this season than it has for a long time and he's helped. He basically took Earl Watson's spot on the team. CJ was to provide the scoring Mo gave us before and CJ had two horrible games to start the series. You can't dig a first half hole against the best defensive teams and expect to win.
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Yes, he has done about what I expected
 
Didn't Blake excersize his option already. Too bad this isn't the NFL.
 
I admire that Blake put's in max effort every time he's on the court - but, imo, both he and especially Kaman, are done.
They've both lost a step and are too slow to be effective.
 
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