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Since when is Steve Politi on Corey Booker's payroll?
 
I'd say it's 65/35 or 60/40 LeBron stays in Cleveland. A lot of things need to come together, on and off the court, but that doesn't mean that doing what we are doing, positioning ourselves for 2010, wasn't the right move. In fact, it's not even close.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They're not similar and you can't compare the two.

KG is almost at the end of his career, LeBron will be at the top level in 2010. Boston had Pierce and then brought Allen.</div>
Near the end of his career last season and he's suppose to entice Lebron in 2 more years?


The point is KG didn't want to go there until they made the move to bring in Allen. Who knows what move the Nets can make in the next 2 years.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They're not similar and you can't compare the two.

KG is almost at the end of his career, LeBron will be at the top level in 2010. Boston had Pierce and then brought Allen.</div>

I think he's saying you never know what personnel moves teams are gonna make. Cavs could bring in some real crap - see: Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, Marko Jaric, Mike James.

And the Nets could bring in some real talent - possibly trading Vince's expiring for a star who wants to leave his team, a la Ray Ray.
 
^ I agree Real, a lot of things have to go the Nets way for LeBron to end up in Brooklyn.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 1 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 1 2008, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I should add that the "they're really starting over" remark also pretty clearly means he discounts VC's continued presence on the roster.</div>

True. Thought he could had said the same thing if it were only RJ left. I wonder if he would have a comment or what it would be if VC is moved.

If Kidd's stance is that LBJ won't want to play with Carter, the Nets should move Carter to the Cavs right now...
-Petey
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Yeah that would be a good plan if they included a draft pick or young talent. The formula has been expiring with young talent and/or draft pick.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 2 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Since when is Steve Politi on Corey Booker's payroll?</div>

FWIW, Star-Ledger endorsed Booker over Sharpe James in 2002. But then again, Sharpe James is a convicted felon asshole.
 
I believe Kidd also said that last year's Nets roster was the most talented team he had ever played on. So he's not exactly a great prognasticator or judge of talent is he?
 
Nil chance LeBron goes to Boston.

If he's leaving, he's going to New York.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nil chance LeBron goes to Boston.

If he's leaving, he's going to New York.</div>
you spoke to him personally?

or did you psychic reassure you about what would happen in 2 years time?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 2 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nil chance LeBron goes to Boston.

If he's leaving, he's going to New York.</div>
you spoke to him personally?

or did you psychic reassure you about what would happen in 2 years time?

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You know it's funny, before I read two Celtic fans speculating that LeBron would want to go to their team I never read one article or one thing linking LeBron to the Celtics. Why is that?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 2 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nil chance LeBron goes to Boston.

If he's leaving, he's going to New York.</div>
you spoke to him personally?

or did you psychic reassure you about what would happen in 2 years time?

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You know it's funny, before I read two Celtic fans speculating that LeBron would want to go to their team I never read one article or one thing linking LeBron to the Celtics. Why is that?
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Boston writers are too busy basking in the glory of winning the title?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 2 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 2 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nil chance LeBron goes to Boston.

If he's leaving, he's going to New York.</div>
you spoke to him personally?

or did you psychic reassure you about what would happen in 2 years time?

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You know it's funny, before I read two Celtic fans speculating that LeBron would want to go to their team I never read one article or one thing linking LeBron to the Celtics. Why is that?
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Boston writers are too busy basking in the glory of winning the title?

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Hey sorry to burst your bubble there but I dont see the celtics being a contender in 2010. That team has 1 more season left in it to make a run then it will suffer the same as what happend to the 06 Heat team. Face it KG(32) is on the Decline and only getting older , Allen(33) got fatigued throughout the playoffs and hes only getting older. The team struggled to get past each round in the EAST! no less and you beat a Laker team which overachieved last season.

Also Posey and House are both FA which will prob get good deals the Celtics wont be able to match, which were big parts of the Championship run. Leaving the team without their bench Cassell, Brown, Posey, House. I do like Rondo and Powe and I think they will be better players next season.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nil chance LeBron goes to Boston.

If he's leaving, he's going to New York.</div>

Wish we could go below zero, but we can't do - here because I was going to say -100% that he goes to the Nets, see he might go to New York, but to the Knicks.

Again he's either staying in Cleveland, or might end up at a team like Miami, Lakers, a team with tradition, like the Celtics, or even the Bulls. But those teams need to be contenders for him to go there.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Jul 2 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey sorry to burst your bubble there but I dont see the celtics being a contender in 2010. That team has 1 more season left in it to make a run then it will suffer the same as what happend to the 06 Heat team. Face it KG(32) is on the Decline and only getting older , Allen(33) got fatigued throughout the playoffs and hes only getting older. The team struggled to get past each round in the EAST! no less and you beat a Laker team which overachieved last season.

Also Posey and House are both FA which will prob get good deals the Celtics wont be able to match, which were big parts of the Championship run. Leaving the team without their bench Cassell, Brown, Posey, House. I do like Rondo and Powe and I think they will be better players next season.</div>

You Nets fans are damn good at predicting. Last season you had your team winning it all and the Celtics not even making it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Keep predicting.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Jul 2 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey sorry to burst your bubble there but I dont see the celtics being a contender in 2010. That team has 1 more season left in it to make a run then it will suffer the same as what happend to the 06 Heat team. Face it KG(32) is on the Decline and only getting older , Allen(33) got fatigued throughout the playoffs and hes only getting older. The team struggled to get past each round in the EAST! no less and you beat a Laker team which overachieved last season.

Also Posey and House are both FA which will prob get good deals the Celtics wont be able to match, which were big parts of the Championship run. Leaving the team without their bench Cassell, Brown, Posey, House. I do like Rondo and Powe and I think they will be better players next season.</div>

You Nets fans are damn good at predicting. Last season you had your team winning it all and the Celtics not even making it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Keep predicting.

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Who said we're winning at all?

I'm predicting next year the Spurs win the championship and we think of them as veterans instead of old guys. But 2010 is up in the air.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Jul 2 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey sorry to burst your bubble there but I dont see the celtics being a contender in 2010. That team has 1 more season left in it to make a run then it will suffer the same as what happend to the 06 Heat team. Face it KG(32) is on the Decline and only getting older , Allen(33) got fatigued throughout the playoffs and hes only getting older. The team struggled to get past each round in the EAST! no less and you beat a Laker team which overachieved last season.

Also Posey and House are both FA which will prob get good deals the Celtics wont be able to match, which were big parts of the Championship run. Leaving the team without their bench Cassell, Brown, Posey, House. I do like Rondo and Powe and I think they will be better players next season.</div>

You Nets fans are damn good at predicting. Last season you had your team winning it all and the Celtics not even making it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Keep predicting.

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I dont think I made any bold comments in my prediction. Anyone here who predicted the Nets winning it all last season must be on drugs
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nil chance LeBron goes to Boston.

If he's leaving, he's going to New York.</div>

Wish we could go below zero, but we can't do - here because I was going to say -100% that he goes to the Nets, see he might go to New York, but to the Knicks.

Again he's either staying in Cleveland, or might end up at a team like Miami, Lakers, a team with tradition, like the Celtics, or even the Bulls. But those teams need to be contenders for him to go there.
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And the Nets don't have tradition?
 
From 1985 till 2001, the Nets made the playoffs 5 times, all lost in the first round, 2 sweeps, 2 of those won 1 game, and the other series won 2 games.

2001/2002 season was the first time for the Nets in the NBA that they got over 50 wins in a season. Then the 2 nba finals, and then downhill again after that.

I wouldn't call that tradition when compared to the bigger teams in the league. At this point all you good is a bunch of young players and Jay Z, which is a big name, but as far as I know he doesn't play ball. I don't see how LeBron would choose the Nets over 10 other teams which will be better at the point when he's a FA.


And I know about the ABA days, Drazen Petrovic, and all the other good things about the Nets, so its not like I don't know your teams history.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From 1985 till 2001, the Nets made the playoffs 5 times, all lost in the first round, 2 sweeps, 2 of those won 1 game, and the other series won 2 games.

2001/2002 season was the first time for the Nets in the NBA that they got over 50 wins in a season. Then the 2 nba finals, and then downhill again after that.

I wouldn't call that tradition when compared to the bigger teams in the league. At this point all you good is a bunch of young players and Jay Z, which is a big name, but as far as I know he doesn't play ball. I don't see how LeBron would choose the Nets over 10 other teams which will be better at the point when he's a FA.


And I know about the ABA days, Drazen Petrovic, and all the other good things about the Nets, so its not like I don't know your teams history.</div>

Well I see the you convinently left out the ABA days. The Celtics have the richest history in the NBA but didn't exactly have the best years since Larry Bird left, including getting beat by the Nets on their home court, and humiliated the next year. Celtics are 0-2 verses the same franchise you're saying isn't "traditional enough."

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You Nets fans are damn good at predicting. Last season you had your team winning it all and the Celtics not even making it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Keep predicting.</div>

You're saying that Net fans are playing prophet, but I said the Nets were going to win 25-30 games this year and had a 30-35 perecnt chance to get LeBron, not exactly good odds. It's ironic that you're playing prophet now by saying that there are 10 other teams that will have a shot at LeBron and will be better than the Nets in 2010. I guess that can now be set in stone.

I have a question for you. Exactly how many Celtic fans predicted in May 2007 that the Celtics would win the 2008 World Championship?
 
Who predicts things in May when the season is still going on. (playoffs)?


I predicted we would win as soon as the KG trade was made. (i'll be more than happy to show you the posts)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who predicts things in May when the season is still going on. (playoffs)?


I predicted we would win as soon as the KG trade was made. (i'll be more than happy to show you the posts)</div>

That's not what I asked you.

Did you or did you not believe the Celtics could/would win the NBA Championship in 2008 in May 2007? It's a yes or no question.
 
In May I was watching the playoffs series, wasn't even thinking about the future.


I know you're trying to connect the two but its not working so far Real. Admit it that most Nets fans (of course not you, and some others here at S2) but most of them are damn sure that LeBron will be with the Nets in 2010. I'm not going to say that in 2010 for example Boston will get Wade. Its the same chance as the Nets getting LeBron, but I'm not going to talk 2 years before about it and predict it.
 
Boston getting Wade and the Nets getting Lebron do NOT have the same chances!

It would be naive of you to think that nets have the same chances as any other team to land lebron in 2010. In case you havent noticed hes pretty much best friends with Jay-z a minority owner of the nets and he (Lebron) just said this week he loves Brooklyn.

If that doesnt give us an advantage along with the cap room we'll have, then idk what does.

I can sense your fear as a Celtic fan of the strong possibilty the Nets landing Lebron and pretty much have him dominate the Atlantic division for the next 10years ruining your hopes of a dynasty in beantown. So I understand where your coming from lol but hey its all gravey at least you guys won it this year
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And the Nets don't have tradition?</div>
ummm no not really

New Jersey Nets (NBA, 1978-2008) — 16 Playoff Appearances
New York Nets (NBA, 1977-1977)
New York Nets (ABA, 1969-1976) — 2 League Championships and 7 Playoff Appearances
New Jersey Americans (ABA, 1968-1968)


Claiming that 2 championships in the ABA is significant is like a city claiming they won a football championship in the Defunct USFL.. kinda sad.

but hey, 16 playoff appearances in 30 years... and ONLY 10 of them were 1st round exits.. yup big tradition with the NETS.

besides this decade, the NETS have been bad, it's just a fact.

Good to see them do well finally, but this Lebron chatter is just a wet dream IMO.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Jul 2 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey sorry to burst your bubble there but I dont see the celtics being a contender in 2010. That team has 1 more season left in it to make a run then it will suffer the same as what happend to the 06 Heat team. Face it KG(32) is on the Decline and only getting older , Allen(33) got fatigued throughout the playoffs and hes only getting older. The team struggled to get past each round in the EAST! no less and you beat a Laker team which overachieved last season.

Also Posey and House are both FA which will prob get good deals the Celtics wont be able to match, which were big parts of the Championship run. Leaving the team without their bench Cassell, Brown, Posey, House. I do like Rondo and Powe and I think they will be better players next season.</div>

Nice revisionist history there all of the Sudden the East was tougher than the West and we beat an overachieving team that beat the Spurs, Jazz and Nuggets and only lost 3 games prior to the finals.. umm but you forgot the part about the Celtics having the best team turnaround in NBA history going from 24-66 wins.
MAYBE there were just that good.
You also have to remember, this Celtics team was relatively rebuilt and everone was new to one another and sure they struggled in the 1st 2 round of the playoffs, chemistry is more important during the playoffs and the Celtics obviously hadn't developed it enough yet. Add to that, Doc is not a great playoff coach and KG and Allen just didn't have enough recent meaningful or intense playoff games under their belt it added to the Celtics inability to polish off bad teams. Shit happens, Doc improved throughout the playoffs and basically outcoached Phil Jackson in the Finals (never thought I'd type that) and KG and Allen got better as the playoffs went along too. Least ye forget Allen setting a finals record for 3 pters made


This team has 2-4 years left in it, depending on who Ainge can add to the core. Winning a title is attractive to players who want to win ya know


assuming Posey AND House are leaving is a bit premature. Posey has given a lot of indication he'd like to stay. We'll have to wait until July 9 to see what happens.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have a question for you. Exactly how many Celtic fans predicted in May 2007 that the Celtics would win the 2008 World Championship?</div>

only the foolish would predict a 24 win team would win the title the following year unless drastic changes happened. Suprise, Surprise drastic change did happen.. but not until the Summer.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well I see the you convinently left out the ABA days. The Celtics have the richest history in the NBA but didn't exactly have the best years since Larry Bird left, including getting beat by the Nets on their home court, and humiliated the next year. Celtics are 0-2 verses the same franchise you're saying isn't "traditional enough."


You're saying that Net fans are playing prophet, but I said the Nets were going to win 25-30 games this year and had a 30-35 perecnt chance to get LeBron, not exactly good odds. It's ironic that you're playing prophet now by saying that there are 10 other teams that will have a shot at LeBron and will be better than the Nets in 2010. I guess that can now be set in stone.</div>


1. did you enjoy those 2 trips to the finals in the last 30 years?

2. Nets fans in general, not just you Real


3. Saying LeBron could be enticed to go to a team OTHER than just the Nets is not prophetic but rather pragmatic IMO. Truth is no one knows for sure what he'll do in 2 years time.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Jul 3 2008, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Boston getting Wade and the Nets getting Lebron do NOT have the same chances!

It would be naive of you to think that nets have the same chances as any other team to land lebron in 2010. In case you havent noticed hes pretty much best friends with Jay-z a minority owner of the nets and he (Lebron) just said this week he loves Brooklyn.

If that doesnt give us an advantage along with the cap room we'll have, then idk what does.

I can sense your fear as a Celtic fan of the strong possibilty the Nets landing Lebron and pretty much have him dominate the Atlantic division for the next 10years ruining your hopes of a dynasty in beantown. So I understand where your coming from lol but hey its all gravey at least you guys won it this year
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We don't fear LeBron, we just beat him on the way to the championship. And then we beat the best player on the planet, a much better player than LeBron, in Kobe. So there's no fearing going on around Beantown.

As for LeBron being friends with Jay-Z, thats adds a 1% chance on top of the other 30 to 35% chance that you already have, if everything goes planned.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Truth is no one knows for sure what he'll do in 2 years time.</div>

That's precisely my point.

You and CelticKing had no idea what would happen the next year until the KG trade. You might have had an idea what would have happened, but it turned out to be a flawed one.

Your views changed within a month. We have two years to work with. LeBron has not been linked to any team other than the Lakers, Knicks, or the Nets. That is what I am basing my statement on.

As it was foolish to predict a 24 win team would do as well as they did this year, you or any other person cannot say that in two years the Nets will not be in a good or better position to land LeBron, because a lot can happen in two years, just as a lot can happen in one month.
 
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