Poll: Biggest fear of the new ownership group (4 Viewers)

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What is your biggest fear of the new ownership group and how they run the team?

  • Them staying cheap and ruining the quality of the franchise (coaching staff hires etc)

    Votes: 14 29.2%

  • Changing everything immediately and over stepping

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • Pissing off players by trying to run it like it's a mom and pop store

    Votes: 1 2.1%

  • Making everything the cheapest possible/always scrimping to save money

    Votes: 13 27.1%

  • Other/none (comment below)

    Votes: 11 22.9%
  • Total voters
    48
Who the hell cares if Love isn’t traveling with the team. As it said, he’s ineligible to play & we wouldn’t want him playing anyway. Him being there doesn’t give us a better chance to win, not at all. Blazer fans will find anything to cry about & to make it seem a bigger issue than it really is.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
WTF are you talking about? Why should we get comfortable with it? The only reason we're okay with Billionaire assholes owning teams is so that they overspend their ill-gotten gains on something we enjoy. You know who tried to make money owning a team? Donald Fucking Sterling.
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Get comfortable with it because it’s what’s gonna happen. You guys want to bitch……please welcome the Kansas City Blazers
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
None of the above
I'm not worried about anything. Tom has turned the Hurricanes into one of the best teams in the NHL. I know it's harder to accomplish that in the NBA, but the fact that he's done it with an NHL teams gives me confidence he can do it with an NBA team as well.
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how are they even remotely relatable? in the nba we have seen time and again that you have to pay to win. sure there are outliers and no guarantees, but i'd rather have a guy overspend than cheap out at every corner.

i'm worried about what i'm reading about this guy
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Who the hell cares if Love isn’t traveling with the team. As it said, he’s ineligible to play & we wouldn’t want him playing anyway. Him being there doesn’t give us a better chance to win, not at all. Blazer fans will find anything to cry about & to make it seem a bigger issue than it really is.
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I care. I bet players care. When the team had so many injuries the two way players stepped in. They won some games for the Blazers. At least let them come along.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Who the hell cares if Love isn’t traveling with the team. As it said, he’s ineligible to play & we wouldn’t want him playing anyway. Him being there doesn’t give us a better chance to win, not at all. Blazer fans will find anything to cry about & to make it seem a bigger issue than it really is.
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such a bad take
 
FWIW dundon is known in the nhl as a cheap owner for non player things but willing to spend on players. Also cross posting this comment from Reddit last summer when the acquisition was announced:

Canes fan here. The Dundon era in Raleigh has been transformative. Here's what you can expect:

  1. He will put every dollar he can find on the court, because (a) he hates hates HATES to lose, and (b) he understands that the most sustainable financial advantage is winning.
  2. Conversely, he will dump people/things he doesn't see as contributing to winning. We had imho the best play by play man in hockey, John Forslund, who was (and still is) absurdly beloved in Raleigh. Dundon dumped him without a second thought. People will misconstrue this as "Dundon So Cheap".
  3. Your organization will now live and die by analytics. The Canes GM is Eric Tulsky, who was a Harvard/Berkeley educated nanotechnologist who got bored, started a hockey blog, and became the biggest fancy stats guru in the NHL. If there's a person like that in or near the NBA, Dundon will find them.
  4. He will be incredibly involved in the front office. Not necessarily in a bad way -- he will learn the NBA inside and out, quickly, and he will absolutely demand collaboration and a leadership team that can explain their reasoning for every single decision. If they don't play along, they're out. Previous president/GM Ron Francis was a legend in Carolina, but he didn't want to have to explain all his hockey wisdom to a newbie owner. He was gone in two months. Everyone was mad at the time. Not now.
  5. He will absolutely push for a new arena district. He's managing to build one in Raleigh under fairly impossible circumstances. Seems like you guys are ready for that, which is good. Give him what he wants/needs and the team will stay.
  6. He will play hardball, and he will work every angle. He will send away beloved players without a second thought if they are too expensive, too old, or don't quite fit. Player negotiations will be extremely uncomfortable. This will take some getting used to. Don't get too attached to jerseys until you know who fits.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Who the hell cares if Love isn’t traveling with the team. As it said, he’s ineligible to play & we wouldn’t want him playing anyway. Him being there doesn’t give us a better chance to win, not at all. Blazer fans will find anything to cry about & to make it seem a bigger issue than it really is.
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Because it’s not just this one thing. It’s like 5 different things in short order.

He’s cutting things that NO OTHER TEAM is cutting. It’s not like he’s targeting things that the blazers were doing above and beyond the rest of the league. No other team had their 2 ways stay home.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Because it’s not just this one thing. It’s like 5 different things in short order.

He’s cutting things that NO OTHER TEAM is cutting. It’s not like he’s targeting things that the blazers were doing above and beyond the rest of the league. No other team had their 2 ways stay home.
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He's making his mark and charting a new direction. Can't say I'm surprised.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Who the hell cares if Love isn’t traveling with the team. As it said, he’s ineligible to play & we wouldn’t want him playing anyway. Him being there doesn’t give us a better chance to win, not at all. Blazer fans will find anything to cry about & to make it seem a bigger issue than it really is.
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It's a symptom of a potentially bigger problem.
 
Freshtown said:
FWIW dundon is known in the nhl as a cheap owner for non player things but willing to spend on players. Also cross posting this comment from Reddit last summer when the acquisition was announced:

Canes fan here. The Dundon era in Raleigh has been transformative. Here's what you can expect:

  1. He will put every dollar he can find on the court, because (a) he hates hates HATES to lose, and (b) he understands that the most sustainable financial advantage is winning.
  2. Conversely, he will dump people/things he doesn't see as contributing to winning. We had imho the best play by play man in hockey, John Forslund, who was (and still is) absurdly beloved in Raleigh. Dundon dumped him without a second thought. People will misconstrue this as "Dundon So Cheap".
  3. Your organization will now live and die by analytics. The Canes GM is Eric Tulsky, who was a Harvard/Berkeley educated nanotechnologist who got bored, started a hockey blog, and became the biggest fancy stats guru in the NHL. If there's a person like that in or near the NBA, Dundon will find them.
  4. He will be incredibly involved in the front office. Not necessarily in a bad way -- he will learn the NBA inside and out, quickly, and he will absolutely demand collaboration and a leadership team that can explain their reasoning for every single decision. If they don't play along, they're out. Previous president/GM Ron Francis was a legend in Carolina, but he didn't want to have to explain all his hockey wisdom to a newbie owner. He was gone in two months. Everyone was mad at the time. Not now.
  5. He will absolutely push for a new arena district. He's managing to build one in Raleigh under fairly impossible circumstances. Seems like you guys are ready for that, which is good. Give him what he wants/needs and the team will stay.
  6. He will play hardball, and he will work every angle. He will send away beloved players without a second thought if they are too expensive, too old, or don't quite fit. Player negotiations will be extremely uncomfortable. This will take some getting used to. Don't get too attached to jerseys until you know who fits.
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He sounds like a miserable scumbag who will be despised in Portland.
 
blazerkor said:
To early to tell but not the most encouraging signs so far.
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Yeah. If I wanted to move an NBA franchise this is exactly what I would do. Including getting them to invest as much money as possible into the stadium.

Even more of a reason for the fans to be pissed and boycott the team.

Hope I'm wrong, but...
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yeah. If I wanted to move an NBA franchise this is exactly what I would do. Including getting them to invest as much money as possible into the stadium.

Even more of a reason for the fans to be pissed and boycott the team.

Hope I'm wrong, but...
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This doesn't make sense. Not trying to be rude but getting the state, county and city to pass funding that you've already said will result simultaneously with the team signing a 20 year lease, isn't what an owner would do if they wanted to move the team. If he wanted to move the team he would have dug in his heels on a brand new arena.

I also don't see how any of the cheapskate bullshit that Dundon has reportedly been pulling hurts the fan experience at all... especially to a degree that would cause a boycott.

The team is trending in the right direction as far as wins and losses are concerned and we're about to get a completely rebuilt Rose Garden. I think that will equal more attendance at games not less.
 
blazerkor said:
This doesn't make sense. Not trying to be rude but getting the state, county and city to pass funding that you've already said will result simultaneously with the team signing a 20 year lease, isn't what an owner would do if they wanted to move the team. If he wanted to move the team he would have dug in his heels on a brand new arena.

I also don't see how any of the cheapskate bullshit that Dundon has reportedly been pulling hurts the fan experience at all... especially to a degree that would cause a boycott.

The team is trending in the right direction as far as wins and losses are concerned and we're about to get a completely rebuilt Rose Garden. I think that will equal more attendance at games not less.
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No worries. I don't take it as rude.

I haven't seen the details of that agreement. If there is a 20 year lease that a billionaire wouldn't be able to easily buy out then I'll feel much better.

You don't see how paying among the lowest coaching salary in the league and creating inconveniences for players and staff will impact the fan experience?

If we don't have good players or good coaches we'll probably not enjoy the team as much.

I sincerely hope it doesn't go there. But I'm not liking what I'm seeing.

*Edit* I'm also not sure we're trending anywhere on wins. We just decided not to tank this year. Deni is really freaking good.

But so was Dame.
 
blazerkor said:
This doesn't make sense. Not trying to be rude but getting the state, county and city to pass funding that you've already said will result simultaneously with the team signing a 20 year lease, isn't what an owner would do if they wanted to move the team. If he wanted to move the team he would have dug in his heels on a brand new arena.

I also don't see how any of the cheapskate bullshit that Dundon has reportedly been pulling hurts the fan experience at all... especially to a degree that would cause a boycott.

The team is trending in the right direction as far as wins and losses are concerned and we're about to get a completely rebuilt Rose Garden. I think that will equal more attendance at games not less.
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most times, renovations seem to reduce capacity, not expand it
 
Well guess I'm getting a spot on Dundon island fan club - I seem to be one of the only ones that likes what I've heard from him, from Canes fans, and have no problem with the cheap coach search/2 way actions.

I get why many fans here don't like him. Personally I don't care about those things though.

If he does get the team in a better position to win I'll be all for these changes.

Will save the bulk if my judgement for the summer moves.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Well guess I'm getting a spot on Dundon island fan club - I seem to be one of the only ones that likes what I've heard from him, from Canes fans, and have no problem with the cheap coach search/2 way actions.

I get why many fans here don't like him. Personally I don't care about those things though.

If he does get the team in a better position to win I'll be all for these changes.

Will save the bulk if my judgement for the summer moves.
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It seems far more likely to me that these changes will hinder winning than help it.

But I agree. If the team is legitimately contending I'll be fine with it.
 
Going through 4 years of a rebuild to finally start looking like a legitimate team then immediately getting this cheap owner. Unbelievable.

That trade he woulda pulled was probably Grant/Milwaukie picks in a salary dump. Nothing worse than a cheap hands on owner.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Raleigh, SC obviously
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Raleigh is in NC but he reportedly doesn't spend much time there.

I think he wants this team here, not because I'm an optimist but because it has one very important thing in common with the Hurricanes and that's the fact that there is no NHL team here, there is no MLB team here and there is no NFL team here. Raleigh is close to as far away from Charlotte as we are from Seattle.

He probably feels that like Raleigh that he has a captive audience that will fill the arena if the team is winning. I think he'll pursue winning, he'll pursue trying to upgrade the fan experience and he'll probably foolishly try to cut costs everywhere else.
 
blazerkor said:
Raleigh is in NC but he reportedly doesn't spend much time there.

I think he wants this team here, not because I'm an optimist but because it has one very important thing in common with the Hurricanes and that's the fact that there is no NHL team here, there is no MLB team here and there is no NFL team here. Raleigh is close to as far away from Charlotte as we are from Seattle.

He probably feels that like Raleigh that he has a captive audience that will fill the arena if the team is winning. I think he'll pursue winning, he'll pursue trying to upgrade the fan experience and he'll probably foolishly try to cut costs everywhere else.
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Forgot it was in NC, thank you. Also yeah the Blazers can’t really outcompete college ball in NC. I was just being a goof. I’m glad for your optimistic realism though.
 
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