Portland #5

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Top 5 teams in East and West

5. Portland Trail Blazers (11-5, .688)- 5th in West

Two words for ya, Greg Oden.

In 24.4 MPG this season, Oden has averaged 11.3 PPG, 8.4 RPG, and 2.3 BPG on an outstanding 64 percent shooting from the field (only player in the league to shoot that high through 16 games played thus far) including shooting 79.1 percent from the charity stripe.

As long as Oden keeps up his production and remains healthy the Blazers are almost guaranteed a top playoff spot.

Like I said two days ago. Stop worrying about Blake vs. Miller (two role players) and focus on feeding the damn Beast. Seriously! When Oden actually develops that "Shaq-like" dominance in the paint, we will be impossible to stop. Focus on getting him the ball and having a nice two man game with Roy and Oden. They can seriously feed off each other and destroy teams. And guess what? We got some other stud named Aldridge to fill everything else up they are leaving behind.

Seriously, when this team finally clicks, we will be upset if we don't win 60 games a season. We will be so accustom to success.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm worried about Blake vs Miller because Miller "feeds the beast" and Blake doesn't. That's the point of the whole debate (at least for me).

 

[ehizzy3]

oden is getting some national media hype again...woody paige, jackie mcmullen and cowlishaw all said they were believers of him

 

[RoyIsClutch07]

I'm worried about Blake vs Miller because Miller "feeds the beast" and Blake doesn't. That's the point of the whole debate (at least for me).

They all were pretty consistent in feeding the post last night, no?

 

[Natebishop3]

oden is getting some national media hype again...woody paige, jackie mcmullen and cowlishaw all said they were believers of him

It was only a matter of time.

They all were pretty consistent in feeding the post last night, no?

One game is not enough. I need to see a stretch of games where Oden is getting the ball in scoring position before I'll be convinced that Blake and Roy have finally shown Oden some faith.

 

[THE HCP]

Shit, if Greg ever reaches his full potential, I could play PG for these bitches!

 

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I'm worried about Blake vs Miller because Miller "feeds the beast" and Blake doesn't. That's the point of the whole debate (at least for me).

Nothing wrong with us having that debate, but there is some thing wrong with Nate putting too much energy on trying to make that work. Oden is the #1 concern in development. The sooner he can dominate the game, the sooner us fans will be setting up parades in Portland.

 

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oden is getting some national media hype again...woody paige, jackie mcmullen and cowlishaw all said they were believers of him

I really loved when Brett Barry said during half-time that "I think it's time we forget about if Oden is a bust and come out and say he truly is a great center" <-- Not word for word, but basically Barry is a believer and I suspect many to follow sooner than later.

 

[RoyIsClutch07]

I really loved when Brett Barry said during half-time that "I think it's time we forget about if Oden is a bust and come out and say he truly is a great center" <-- Not word for word, but basically Barry is a believer and I suspect many to follow sooner than later.

I want to see guys like Colin Cowherd eat whatever words and takes they had. Clearly, they were wrong. Not that he or Bill Simmons would come out and admit it.

 

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I want to see guys like Colin Cowherd eat whatever words and takes they had. Clearly, they were wrong. Not that he or Bill Simmons would come out and admit it.

If we are popping the champaign, they won't have to. Actions always speak louder than words.

 

[Natebishop3]

Simmons next take will be that Roy is carrying Oden or some shit.

 

[RoyIsClutch07]

If we are popping the champaign, they won't have to. Actions always speak louder than words.

But, there is no doubt that the Colin Cowherds of the world look at themselves as "experts" and know more about the game than the average fan. Greg Oden coming to life and finally showing signs of greatness I would hope shows them the error of their ways and thinking. And humbles them.

 

[magnifier661]

But, there is no doubt that the Colin Cowherds of the world look at themselves as "experts" and no more about the game than the average fan. Greg Oden coming to life and finally showing signs of greatness I would hope shows them the error of their ways and thinking. And humbles them.

Cowherd?!?!?! Humble?!?!?! Never!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Simmons next take will be that Roy is carrying Oden or some shit.

He won't say that, he'll say Oden still looks awkward and KD plays beautiful basketball and Greg has no passion unlike KD who eats, breathes and dreams basketball 25 hours a day. "Kevin Durant knows the secret" (or some other bullshit).

The only way Greg is going to quiet his more harsh detractors is if he puts up Tim Duncan kinds of numbers and even then they'll probably shrug and just say it's no big deal because that's what number 1 picks are supposed to do.

 

[Nikolokolus]

But, there is no doubt that the Colin Cowherds of the world look at themselves as "experts" and no more about the game than the average fan. Greg Oden coming to life and finally showing signs of greatness I would hope shows them the error of their ways and thinking. And humbles them.

Didn't you know that it only takes 10 minutes to look at a player and decide if he has "it" or not? Colin said he watched Oden and could tell he didn't have "it" ... that he'd basically be a 7 foot Ben Wallace (as if a 7 foot Ben Wallace in his prime would have been a bad player. Yikes!)

 

[Natebishop3]

He won't say that, he'll say Oden still looks awkward and KD plays beautiful basketball and Greg has no passion unlike KD who eats, breathes and dreams basketball 25 hours a day. "Kevin Durant knows the secret" (or some other bullshit).

The only way Greg is going to quiet his more harsh detractors is if he puts up Tim Duncan kinds of numbers and even then they'll probably shrug and just say it's no big deal because that's what number 1 picks are supposed to do.

Simmons likes to stir the pot. He'll take an angle that pisses off the fans. Something that goes against all common sense. Maybe he'll say the refs are favoring Oden, or that Stern made him.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Simmons likes to stir the pot. He'll take an angle that pisses off the fans. Something that goes against all common sense. Maybe he'll say the refs are favoring Oden, or that Stern made him.

I doubt he even acknowledges him to be honest.

 

[andalusian]

Who cares? These guys are entertainers. They need "hits". They make stupid arguments. So what? Their analysis was entertainment before - and it still is now.

 

[Natebishop3]

Maybe he'll become a hardcore blazer fan

 

[LittleAlex]

I want to see guys like Colin Cowherd eat whatever words and takes they had. Clearly, they were wrong. Not that he or Bill Simmons would come out and admit it.

Cowherd is a moron but I would be willing to bet that Simmons would change his tune if Oden keeps getting better.

After all, Simmons has said he feels the league would be better if both Oden and Durant played at a very high level. More good players equals a better NBA.

It simply isn't a either/or proposition. I hope both are good.

Though I do want Portland to be better then the Thunder as a team. Durant can have his scoring titles. I want Oden to have rings.

 

[THE HCP]

Maybe he'll become a hardcore blazer fan

We don't need him!

 

[gatorpops]

Shit, if Greg ever reaches his full potential, I could play PG for these bitches!

Something you guys haven't addressed is that when Blake, Web, Rudy, and Roy started to hit threes regularly it opened up the middle to be able to enter the ball or for Roy et all to do their thing.

Early in the season everybody packed the middle and made life miserable for all.

 

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Something you guys haven't addressed is that when Blake, Web, Rudy, and Roy started to hit threes regularly it opened up the middle to be able to enter the ball or for Roy et all to do their thing.

Early in the season everybody packed the middle and made life miserable for all.

Not true. Those players weren't hitting their shots and Oden always dominated the first quarter. And that was when they packed the middle. The biggest problem was when Nate would go away from it and it was too late.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'm worried about Blake vs Miller because Miller "feeds the beast" and Blake doesn't.

Nate- that is a FLAT OUT LIE. Why do you keep saying that when it's not true? Blake gets the ball to Oden far more than Miller does. Blake also creates more easy baskets for Oden than Miller does.

 

[KingSpeed]

It was only a matter of time.



One game is not enough. I need to see a stretch of games where Oden is getting the ball in scoring position before I'll be convinced that Blake and Roy have finally shown Oden some faith.

All we have to look at is what has happened lately because that reflects how the team has grown. In the Minnesota game, Oden scored 7 buckets. 1 from Howard, 2 from Roy, and 4 from Blake. None from Miller. In the Chicago game, Miller had one assist to Oden. Also, Blake tends to get the ball into the post to Oden more often, even when Oden doesn't end up shooting. Blake will often get the ball into Oden two or even three times in a single possession.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Nate- that is a FLAT OUT LIE. Why do you keep saying that when it's not true? Blake gets the ball to Oden far more than Miller does. Blake also creates more easy baskets for Oden than Miller does.

You do realize that a post entry pass doesn't count as an assist if the guy receiving the pass does more than make a single fluid move to the hoop after getting the pass. Oden practically isos on the low block and backs his man down most times, Miller isn't getting credited with those passes as assists. It also doesn't count as an assist if Greg gets a shooting foul without hitting the bucket.

 

[Nikolokolus]

All we have to look at is what has happened lately because that reflects how the team has grown. In the Minnesota game, Oden scored 7 buckets. 1 from Howard, 2 from Roy, and 4 from Blake. None from Miller. In the Chicago game, Miller had one assist to Oden. Also, Blake tends to get the ball into the post to Oden more often, even when Oden doesn't end up shooting. Blake will often get the ball into Oden two or even three times in a single possession.

What games are you watching?

 

[KingSpeed]

What games are you watching?

Did you watch the third quarter of the Minnesota game? Blake got the ball to Oden around 15 times. In that single quarter! He would post and repost Oden. Even on possessions in which Oden didn't score, Blake was still getting Oden touches. In addition to that, he spent the quarter setting up Oden for wide open dunks. That led to Blake setting up Webster for wide open threes. Then Blake got Rudy involved. And finally, he got he ball to Roy to let Roy get himself involved. It was a masterful quarter and an example of what Blake can do when the ball is in HIS hands, not Roy's or Miller's.

 

[KingSpeed]

You do realize that a post entry pass doesn't count as an assist if the guy receiving the pass does more than make a single fluid move to the hoop after getting the pass. Oden practically isos on the low block and backs his man down most times, Miller isn't getting credited with those passes as assists. It also doesn't count as an assist if Greg gets a shooting foul without hitting the bucket.

I'm well aware of all of that. And you're wrong. Oden doesn't back his man down most times that he scores. Totally false. Oden, in most cases, MAYBE scores twice a game with post moves. Most of his scores come from wide open dunks set up by his teammates or off of offensive rebounds. In the Minnesota game, ALL SEVEN OF HIS BASKETS were assisted on. None of those assists came from Miller.

 

[KingSpeed]

Don't forget that Blake has the all-time NBA record for assists in a quarter. If you put the ball in his hands and actually let him be a PG, he is incredibly impressive. He has sacrificed a lot of his game to defer to Brandon Roy. But when you put the ball in Blake's hands, he's pretty amazing. Nik- I'm convinced you were watching the Ducks game during the third quarter of the Minnesota game.