Porzingis

[Denny Crane]

I would.

You would what?

The knicks get out of a 4 year awful contract, and get a stud C prospect to replace Noah, and two starters (for them), and 3 first round draft picks.

 

[illmatic99]

Oh. Crap. Sign and trade unlikely?

Not with our cap situation. Hayward to POR isn't happening in pretty much any scenario. Same with Paul/Griffin/Lowry et al.

 

[Minstrel]

I wouldn't say "not remotely"

I meant, without including Lillard, McCollum and Nurkic, because few people here want to trade them in any deal.

 

[B-Roy]

I would sooner trade CJ than Nurk.

 

[illmatic99]

I miss Kellerman on ESPN LA with Marcellus.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Strenuus]

Do you read other threads?

 

[Mediocre Man]

If Lillard or CJ aren't in the discussion, there should be no discussion

15, 20, 26 aren't enough

 

[TBpup]

They talk about Porzingis and 'Melo like they are these great pieces that another team would be so close to being a contender with....yet they were garbage in NY.

 

[blue9]

Here's the thing; if Butler is pushing for Cleveland and Boston pursues Porzingis (as they should) it could leave Portland in a pretty good position to land George.

This is what I'm thinking - with three players of this caliber all available, that makes it much more likely we can get involved for one of them. It clearly seems BOS is our biggest competition on the trade market, but they can probably only land one major trade (we'll see - Danny did land both KG and Allen during the same summer!), which leaves two remaining. If I'm BOS I go after KP. That leaves Butler/George on the table. Maybe CLE somehow works some magic to get Butler, but I don't see how - personally I feel MIN would be our biggest competition for Butler. With Butler going to MIN (or CLE), and KP going to BOS, that would leave only LAL as our competition for George, and they may feel inclined to wait until 2018.

 

[Scalma]

You would what?

The knicks get out of a 4 year awful contract, and get a stud C prospect to replace Noah, and two starters (for them), and 3 first round draft picks.

I wouldn't trade Nurk for Porzingis straight up. Unless I was the Knicks. Nurk > Porzingis.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Cowherd is suggesting Boston could offer #3, a 2018 #1 (Nets or Lakers), and Jaylen Brown for Porzingis. If the Knicks pull that much for KP, it'd be hard to fault them too terribly much.

 

[TBpup]

I think Portland tries to get involved (been told they were already in touch with Indy) with any one of these three players but in the end, most likely as a facilitator as the big name player goes somewhere else.

 

[Destroyer of Worlds]

You misread his question. He's asking if you'd do this deal:

Portland Gets: 3 mid-to-late first rounds, Crabbe OR Turner
Portland Trades: McCollum OR Lillard

Obviously, assuming Crabbe/Turner were on other teams and could be traded to Portland. He's basically asking if you'd trade one of Portland's stars for three mid-to-late first rounders and roster garbage, as people often suggest Portland use to get other teams' best players.

Would I trade Lillard OR CJ for 3 firsts and 1 starting quality player? No.

However if they skipped exit meetings, said they weren't re-signing, and said they weren't interested in staying...

Yes, I would.

Would you have traded Lamarcus for 3 firsts and Danny Green?

Knowing what we know now, probably

 

[B-Roy]

Cowherd is suggesting Boston could offer #3, a 2018 #1 (Nets or Lakers), and Jaylen Brown for Porzingis. If the Knicks pull that much for KP, it'd be hard to fault them too terribly much.

You sure they don't want 3 mid firsts and Evan Turner instead?

.....please?

 

[blue9]

I think Portland tries to get involved (been told they were already in touch with Indy) with any one of these three players but in the end, most likely as a facilitator as the big name player goes somewhere else.

That would be my guess, too. The biggest name we'd likely land is Love, and I'm not too excited about that.

 

[blue9]

Would I trade Lillard OR CJ for 3 firsts and 1 starting quality player? No.

However if they skipped exit meetings, said they weren't re-signing, and said they weren't interested in staying...

Yes, I would.

Would you have traded Lamarcus for 3 firsts and Danny Green?

Knowing what we know now, probably

Haha - I was about to blast this after reading the first sentence. And then I continued reading and was like

 

[B-Roy]

Would I trade Lillard OR CJ for 3 firsts and 1 starting quality player? No.

However if they skipped exit meetings, said they weren't re-signing, and said they weren't interested in staying...

Yes, I would.

Would you have traded Lamarcus for 3 firsts and Danny Green?

Knowing what we know now, probably

Here is the thing, even if Porzingis came out and literally declared on ESPN that he hates playing in New York and wants to get traded, the Knicks would still get better offers than our goody bag of picks and trash. He is still on his rookie contract and will be an RFA afterwards.

 

[Boise Blazer]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/877216889755381760
There are some other interesting names on this list FWIW

 

[B-Roy]

There are some other interesting names on this list FWIW

I've always held the opinion that Aldridge was our best defender when he gave a shit.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

They talk about Porzingis and 'Melo like they are these great pieces that another team would be so close to being a contender with....yet they were garbage in NY.

Right, why is Jackson so ready to give up on him. Porzingis didn't look that great sometimes, but he is still only 21.

 

[blue9]

There are some other interesting names on this list FWIW

Does it seem weird to anyone else that the commissioner is weighing in on what a team should do with their players?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Does it seem weird to anyone else that the commissioner is weighing in on what a team should do with their players?

I also don't believe that the NBA commissioner should be predicting elections (badly).

 

[TBpup]

Does it seem weird to anyone else that the commissioner is weighing in on what a team should do with their players?

Green font?

 

[Boise Blazer]

 

[B-Roy]

I don't believe that Adam Silver and Nate Silver are the same person.

You don't say???

 

[PtldPlatypus]

You don't say???

I like my edited reply better, thank you very much.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

 

[TBpup]

So Meyers, Crabbe and the #26 pick isn't going to get it done?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

OK, I am going to fix all Phil Jackson's problems. Can you imagine the agony Phil has to go through looking at all his terrible mistakes? Looking at Carmelo, whom he pays so much, and realizing he just doesn't really help the team be better? Looking at a broken down Noah who has three more years at $17 million a year? Looking at 31 year old Courtney Lee, who is signed for three more years? Looking at Porzingas, whom he had so much hope for, and the kid won't even stick around for his exit interview?

Now I think Phil really loves an Evan Turner type player. He will be the centerpiece. Plus Harkless, plus Ed Davis, plus Noah Vonleh. All hard playing guys on good contracts Throw in a dynamic young pg, Napier. Phil's choice of Layman or Connaughton. Three draftpicks. One thing, Phil, since I am giving you so much good stuff and gonna take away all those reminders of your failures , I gotta ask one little favor, could you take Myers Leonard, please? (Being that you are the Zen-master, maybe you could fix him?)

Sorry I still can't figure out how to grab a screenshot so here is the link:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb2soorb